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The Creation Museum

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muffler dragon said:
I don't believe you to be a quack, crazy or anything of the sort. I was just sharing my thoughts on the varied POVs in the creationist movement for equality. I've been on both sides of aisle (creationist and evolutionist). I'm not picking a side in this thread nor am I judging those that have posted.
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I'm sorry muffler, I shoudn't have incldude that in the response to you. I just didn't feel like making another post. It was general statement about crazy fundamentalists and how more than a few on this board view them. And I'm not neccessarily offended by the term. I guess it just seems odd to use the term about people you know.
 
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There is something terribly ironic about this.

Not sure what.

But, something.

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"For those who believe in God, most of the big questions are answered. But for those of us who can't readily accept the God formula, the big answers don't remain stone-written. We adjust to new conditions and discoveries. We are pliable. Love need not be a command nor faith a dictum. I am my own god. We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us."
? Charles Bukowski
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1890908; said:
From where do they spark in and out of our universe? Again - if we accept that they spark in and out of this universe, you're making quite the assumption that they didn't exist in some other phase space.

Can't have it both ways.
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I was a speech and theatre major so I could avoid math and science courses and still get a degree.

Two weeks ago we took our granddaughter to see i-Max, Photos From Hubble. As the telescope went back to the edge of light you could see stars being formed, literally "born" from something. The most amazing part was that it was not unlike going in the opposite direction using an electron microscope to look inside a cell and then to look inside the nucleus, and then into what was inside the nucleus -- the Russian doll trick. It was all the same, the forming of stars and the forming of whatever it is inside the inside of the inside of the nucleus.

I have no idea what that source is -- energy, light, matter -- but I left the theatre with the sense that the the universe is a living thing, an organism, and that a life force, or spirit, - to borrow inappropriately from Abraham Lincoln, something beyond our poor powers to add and subtract.

I don't like the words God, or Supreme Being, or Lord because they convey that "made in His image" smugness. It's too limiting to what I have seen in both directions.

I'll just leave it with my 8 year old granddaughter's words as we left the theatre, "That's awesome."
 
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cincibuck;1891183; said:
I was a speech and theatre major so I could avoid math and science courses and still get a degree.

Two weeks ago we took our granddaughter to see i-Max, Photos From Hubble. As the telescope went back to the edge of light you could see stars being formed, literally "born" from something. The most amazing part was that it was not unlike going in the opposite direction using an electron microscope to look inside a cell and then to look inside the nucleus, and then into what was inside the nucleus -- the Russian doll trick. It was all the same, the forming of stars and the forming of whatever it is inside the inside of the inside of the nucleus.

I have no idea what that source is -- energy, light, matter -- but I left the theatre with the sense that the the universe is a living thing, an organism, and that a life force, or spirit, - to borrow inappropriately from Abraham Lincoln, something beyond our poor powers to add and subtract.

I don't like the words God, or Supreme Being, or Lord because they convey that "made in His image" smugness. It's too limiting to what I have seen in both directions.

I'll just leave it with my 8 year old granddaughter's words as we left the theatre, "That's awesome."
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I have always thought that evolution from single-celled creatures to reach the complexity and subtlety that is homo sapiens required the direction and planning of a Being whose capabilities are truly awe-inspiring. So much more magnificent to my thinking than a Cosmic Houdini who says, "pouf" and immediately appears a talking snake, rocks twirling around each other in light and darkness, and two opposite-sex humans who one day will bicker continually with one another.

But that's just me.
 
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I came across this article on a recent DNA study regarding the evolutionary history of primates (including humans):

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110317172047.htm

Earlier in this thread I had posted fossil evidence supporting the theory that humans evolved from an ape-like ancestor. The study above further supports evolution and the relatedness of species, but by using an entirely different form of evidence. However, not only does this study further support evolution it also showcases that the Theory of Evolution is useful - that it can be used in a predictive manner and to better understand disease and cancers:
The authors said: "Advances in human biomedicine, including those focused on changes in genes triggered or disrupted in development, resistance/susceptibility to infectious disease, cancers, and mechanisms of recombination and genome plasticity, can not be adequately interpreted in the absence of a precise evolutionary context or hierarchy. Resolution of the primate species phylogeny here provides a validated framework essential in the development, interpretation and discovery of the genetic underpinnings of human adaptation and disease."
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Until Creationism can explain the existing evidence better than evolution and provide a useful theory, it will never and should never be taken seriously.
 
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