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The Buckeyes' Top Prospects for 2010 - Early Edition

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Capo Regime
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Signing Day 2009 has just passed, and already it is a distant memory, as coaching staffs and fans alike now turn their full attention to the members of the class of 2010. The state of Ohio has two sure fire "five star" prospects - offensive tackle Andrew Norwell (Cincinnati Anderson) and DE/OLB Jamel Turner (Youngstown Ursuline) - and both have already issued early verbals to The Ohio State University. Only a few other in-state prospects have received Buckeye offers to this point, namely committed defensive end J.T. Moore (Boardman); linebacker Scott McVey (Cleveland St. Ignatius); offensive tackle Matt James (Cincinnati St. Xavier); linebacker Jordan Hicks (West Chester Lakota West); athlete Spencer Ware (Cincinnati Princeton); and defensive lineman Darryl Baldwin (Solon).

The in-state recruiting should be quite interesting this year, as Scott McVey is the only uncommitted offeree who is currently considered a Buckeye lean. While a core group of Norwell, Turner, Moore, and McVey would certainly be a great start to the class of 2010, the staff will have to fight to land some of the other top local talents, as Hicks is a avowed fan of the Texas Longhorns, Ware is enamored with several southern programs, James is a Catholic school kid who is intrigued by Notre Dame, and Baldwin is in no hurry to decide.

Although the staff has sent out only eight early offers to Ohio prospects, there are another twenty or so in-state kids who are borderline Buckeye recruits. We have profiled the most likely offerees below, but will give a brief synopsis here. Running back Erick Howard (North Canton Hoover) is probably the best of the bunch (and likely a top-5 prospect in Ohio), but off-the-field concerns have prevented him from getting a Buckeye offer. We expect that the staff will eventually offer defensive backs LaTwan Anderson (Lakewood St. Edward) and Christian Bryant (Cleveland Glenville), but both might be a bit undersized for safety prospects. Tyrone Williams (East Cleveland Shaw) made some great plays last season ... but he played only five games against suspect competition. Alex Smith (West Chester Lakota West) is a true tight end prospect ... but the Buckeyes' offense has not made much use of that position in recent years. Andrew Donnal (Whitehouse Anthony Wayne) is an athletic offensive tackle, but the Buckeyes have already locked up the top local OT (Andrew Norwell), and are also in on several other highly-ranked prospects at that position (Seantrel Henderson, Matt James, Jimmy Gjere). Linebacker Antonio Kinard (Youngstown Liberty) is an up-and-coming talent who will get a strong look.

Besides the players named above, there are several other talented prospects who could emerge with strong performances at combines or summer camp, including running back LeVeon Bell (Groveport Madison), defensive back Tyon Dixon (Cincinnati Colerain); wide receiver Tim O'Conner (Cincinnati Elder); wide receiver Anthony Schrock (Wadsworth); tight end Dan Schneider (Avon Lake); defensive back Mike Dorsey (Warren G. Harding); defensive back Terrance Talbott (Huber Heights Wayne); athlete Andre Givens (Hubbard); linebacker Zac Rosenbauer (Lima Shawnee); defensive ends Jayrone Elliott (Cleveland Glenville); Derrick Bryant (Columbus Brookhaven); and Marcus Rush (Cincinnati Moeller); and offensive linemen Kevin Schloemer (West Chester Lakota West); Skyler Schofner (Washington Court House); Matt Rotheram (North Olmsted); Taylor Miller (Trenton Edgewood); and Christian Pace (Avon Lake). Of course, many out-of-state prospects will hit the radar over the next several months, so tuned to BuckeyePlanet for further updates on the Buckeyes' top targets for the recruiting class of 2010.

Finally, we like to take a moment to explain how we organize recruits in our articles. Because so many recruits could project to multiple positions in college, with place the kids into three categories: Speed, Big Speed, and Power. For the most part, the speed recruits are the backs and receivers; the big speed guys are linebackers and ends; and the power players are the interior linemen. In addition, speed players are usually not projected to "grow" physically, while big speed prospects are usually expected to "fill out" at the college level. So, that's why a 6-foot-3, 190-pound quarterback prospect like Nick Montana is considered a "speed" player, while a 6-foot, 215-pound linebacker like Scott McVey (who should play at 230+ in college) is considered a "big speed" recruit. Of course, the system is still pretty subjective, but for most prospects it works fairly well.

Speed

1. Lamarcus Joyner, Miami Southwest (5' 8", 166 lbs, 4.34 forty); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. Joyner is an all-everything cornerback prospect who possesses off-the-charts athleticism reminiscent of Percy Harvin, Ted Ginn, and Deion Sanders. Despite his diminutive size, LJ is a headhunter in the defensive backfield, and some people are already comparing him to former Buckeye great Antoine Winfield. Although Lamarcus was a Florida State fan growing up, he is currently high on Ohio State, largely because of the Buckeyes' success in producing NFL-caliber cornerbacks. However, every major program in the country will be recruiting Joyner, and the Big Three don't like to see kids of his talent leave the Sunshine State, so it is far too early to make any sort of predictions regarding his recruitment. Expect a Signing Day announcement.

2. Nick Montana, Westlake Village (California) Oaks Christian (6' 3", 190 lbs, 4.6 forty); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. Last year, the Buckeyes tried to land the heir apparent to Terrelle Pryor, but they lost out on a couple of big name prospects and instead signed a project in the form of Kenneth Guiton. While Guiton has long-term potential, Nick Montana is already a polished signal caller who runs a sophisticated high school offense (2,500 yds, 33 TD's, 7 INT's, in leading his team to a 14-0 record and state title last season), but also possesses enough natural athleticism to operate in a "spread" scheme. Although Nick is the son of legendary Notre Dame quarterback Joe Montana, and the brother of current Notre Dame reserve quarterback Nate Montana, the youngest Montana is definitely not a lock to be a Domer. In fact, the Buckeyes are very high on Nick's list, and he is visiting Columbus today and tomorrow to check out Ohio State. Buckeye head coach Jim Tressel has already made a favorable impression on Joe Montana, and it should also be mentioned that the senior Montana was a college teammate of current Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith. Nick is Ohio State's number one target at quarterback for the class of 2010, and so far he is the only quarterback prospect to have received an offer. Expect an early decision, and don't be surprised in the least if that decision is Ohio State. Update 02/23/09 - Nick had a very good visit to Ohio State last weekend, but he did not issue a commitment to the Buckeyes. In the days following his trip to Columbus, Montana received offers from Alabama and Notre Dame, and also made visits to Texas and Southern Cal. Nick still claims to be wide open, but Ohio State is looking good ... especially if he returns for the Spring Game in a couple of months.

3. Tai-ler Jones, Gainesville (Georgia) Gainesville (6' 0", 174 lbs, 4.46 forty); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. As a junior last year, Jones made 81 receptions for 1,000 yards and 13 touchdowns. Tai-ler is smooth, quick, explosive, dangerous in the open field, and able to create space ... and he has great hands, all of which combine to make him one of the top wide receiver prospects in the entire country. Tai-ler's father, Andre, was a member of Notre Dame's 1988 national championship squad, and the Irish have offered ... but Notre Dame is far from a "lock", and Tai-ler will check out many of the top college programs before making a decision some time this summer. Ohio State has already received a Junior Day visit, and the Buckeyes should be considered a legitimate contender, but Georgia Tech, Miami, Alabama, Tennessee, and a host of other schools will be in hot pursuit.

4. Corey Brown, Springfield (Pennsylvania) Cardinal O'Hara (6' 0", 171 lbs, 4.47 forty); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. Last year, Ohio State signed one Corey Brown from the State of Pennsylvania, and this year the Bucks are after another. The 2010 version of Corey Brown is one of the top running back prospects in the country despite missing most of his junior season with a knee injury, and he already holds offers from major programs like Ohio State, Penn State, Florida, Alabama, and Miami. The Buckeyes have consistently been near the top of Corey's list of favorite schools, but this will be a tough battle. No early leaders; expect a late decision after official visits. Update 02/25/09 - Corey is planning to make a summertime unofficial visit to Ohio State.

5. Spencer Ware, Cincinnati Princeton (5' 11", 207 lbs); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. In high school, Ware is a prolific quarterback who has thrown for 4,160 yards and 31 touchdowns, and rushed for 1,752 yards and 35 touchdowns, over the past two seasons combined. Although a few schools like Cincinnati and Duke are recruiting him as a quarterback, it is likely that Spencer will switch positions in college, probably to running back, possibly to defensive back. The Buckeyes entered the fray with an early offer, but Ware might be heading south, as Georgia (favorite), Alabama, North Carolina, Clemson, Florida, Miami, and Tennessee are his primary schools of interest, along with Ohio State and Cincinnati. Spencer is also a top flight baseball player, and the opportunity to play both sports at the college level might influence his decision.

6. Erick Howard, North Canton Hoover (5' 10", 210 lbs); Ohio State (not offered) leads. As a junior, Erick Howard was named Mr. Football in the State of Ohio after he rushed for 2,387 yards and scored 31 touchdowns in leading Hoover to the state semi-finals. Obviously, talent is not an issue for Mr. Howard ... and neither is love for Ohio State ... but academics and other off-the-field issues are a major concern at this stage of the recruiting process. If Erick can get his house in order, then look for a quick Buckeye offer, and an equally quick commitment. If not, then Cincinnati (offered) might be the team to beat.

7. Gideon Ajagbe, Coconut Grove (Florida) Ransom Everglades (6' 2", 197 lbs, 4.72 forty, 4.19 shuttle); Ohio State (offered) in top 5 (Florida, North Carolina, Boston College, Central Florida, all offered). Ajagbe is a one-man team for Ransom Everglades, and he plays both running back (1,354 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2008) and linebacker (57 tackles, 9 TFL's, and 2 sacks last season) for his high school squad. At the next level, Gideon projects as a defender, either at linebacker or safety. Florida is the early favorite - and strong favorite - but Gideon claims that he wants to look around at some other schools before making a decsion. North Carolina (currently running in second place) will get a spring visit. If Ajagbe makes it up to Columbus for an unofficial visit some time this spring or summer (Junior Day, Spring Game, Summer Camp), then the Buckeyes at least have a shot to make a favorable impression ... if not, then this one might be over by August.

8. LaTwan Anderson, Lakewood St. Edward (5' 11", 190 lbs, 4.29 forty); Ohio State (not offered) leads Michigan State, Michigan, West Virginia, Iowa (all offered). Despite his size (sub-6') and speed (sub-4.3), Anderson actually projects as a safety rather than a cornerback. On the gridiron, LaTwan has a linebacker mentality and knows how to lay the wood, but he also possesses world class speed (10.4 in the 100 meters, 21.6 in the 200 meters). Anderson was a second team All Ohio selection as a junior after recording 50 tackles and 5 interceptions, two of which were "pick sixes". Michigan State, Michigan, and West Virginia are the early stated leaders, but an Ohio State offer would put the Buckeyes clearly out in front. Update 02/24/09 - LaTwan transferred from St. Edward to Cleveland Glenville.

9. Christian Bryant, Cleveland Glenville (5' 11", 180 lbs, 4.53 forty); Ohio State (not offered) leads Tennessee (offered). Bryant is yet another top athlete from the renowned Cleveland Glenville program. As a junior, Christian split time between safety and cornerback, and he could project to either position at the college level. Although Ohio State has not offered yet, we believe that the Buckeyes will eventually come through with a scholarship, and that Bryant will accept. If not, Tennessee (offered) is currently running a strong second, with Vanderbilt and Stanford (both offered) also in the mix.

10. Darrion Hall, Naples Lely (6' 1", 200 lbs, 4.4 forty); Ohio State (not offered) in the mix. Hall is the typical Florida speedster who will get some serious looks from around the country. As a junior, Darrion piled up 1,800 yards rushing, 200 yards receiving, and 21 touchdowns, and he was named 2nd team All State (Class 3A). Clemson, West Virginia, and Wisconsin have already offered, and Ohio State has enquired. The Buckeyes will probably take only one running back this year, and Hall might be on their short list if Erick Howard's academic situation doesn't improve.

Big Speed

1. Jamel Turner, Youngstown Ursuline (6' 3", 208 lbs); committed to Ohio State! Turner, who projects as a defensive end or outside linebacker at the college level, is one of the top prospects in Ohio regardless of position. As a junior Jamel led his team to a 15-0 record and the Division V state title, while being named a member of the USAToday first team defense. Turner is a pass rushing specialist who has racked up over 40 sacks during the past two seasons combined. Despite being a probable "five star" prospect, Jamel ended his recruitment in December and selected Ohio State.

2. Scott McVey, Cleveland St. Ignatius (6' 0", 215 lbs, 4.5 forty); Ohio State (offered) leads. Although McVey had been on everyone's radar screen for quite a while, his breakout performance in the Division I state title game versus Cincinnati Elder (12 tackles, 5 sacks, a forced fumble, and an interception) quickly earned him an offer from Ohio State. McVey has the speed and athleticism to play safety, but with his ability to rush the passer and attack the line of scrimmage, we feel that he will be an outside linebacker in college. McVey is a huge Buckeye fan, and Ohio State is the clear leader for his services. Expect an early decision for Ohio State.

3. J.T. Moore, Boardman High School (6' 3", 225 lbs); committed to Ohio State! Moore is one of the top defensive end prospects in the Midwest, and he exhibits excellent lateral movement and change of direction, and has a solid burst for closing speed. JT just needs a little more weight and some improved technique to be a standout at the next level. Moore is a lifelong Buckeye fan, and last September he became the first commitment for Ohio State's class of 2010.

4. Khairi Fortt, Stamford (Connecticut) Stamford (6' 2", 211 lbs, 4.6 forty); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. Fortt is a top national outside linebacker prospect who has already earned offers from a veritable "Who's Who" of the college football world including Miami, Notre Dame, Penn State, Tennessee, North Carolina, and of course Ohio State. As a junior, Khairi amassed 118 tackles, forced four fumbles, and snagged a pair of interceptions. It's still too early to gauge Fortt's level of interest, and he will likely make all five of his official visits before deciding.

5. Jordan Hicks, Lakota West (6' 2", 210 lbs); Ohio State (offered) trails Texas (offered) and Florida (offered). Hicks is an excellent all-around athlete and one of the top overall prospects in Ohio. As a junior last season, Jordan racked up 88 tackles, 7 TFL's, and 2 sacks from his outside linebacker position. Although Jordan has lived in the Cincinnati area since the seventh grade, he is originally from down south, and most of his favorites are from below the Mason-Dixon line. Hicks has rooted for the Texas Longhorns (camp in 2008) since childhood, but Florida, LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and several other southern powerhouses might also get a look. Despite playing at a very Buckeye-friendly high school, Hicks might be destined to leave the state ... but not without a fight from JT & Company.

NEW ! 6. David Durham, Austin (Texas) Westlake (6' 3", 226 lbs, 4.7 forty); committed to Ohio State on February 23, 2009! Well, every year the Buckeye staff surprises us with a recruit from out of the blue, and for the class of 2010 it is Texas linebacker David Durham. Because Ohio State has been pursuing in-state linebacker prospects like Jamel Turner, Jordan Hicks, Scott McVey, and Antonio Kinard, the offer to Durham caught everyone off guard ... and the quick commitment from an out-of-region player was even more surprising. In any event, David visited Ohio State in January for a wrestling tournament, and then returned last week for another unofficial visit. After seeing the campus and meeting with the coaches, Durham received an offer and accepted it, all within the span of a couple of days. As a junior last year, David made 80 tackles and 11 sacks while playing with a nasty attitude.

7. Luke Muncie, Klein (Texas) Oak (6' 3", 210 lbs, 4.49 forty, 4.12 shuttle); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. Muncie is one of the top defensive back prospects in the state of Texas for the class of 2010. Last season, Luke made 80 tackles and 4 interceptions (one of which was a pick-six). Muncie is the most recent Buckeye offeree, and he also holds an offer from Texas A+M, with Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Alabama being interested as well. It's still far too early to tell what level of interest Luke has in the Buckeyes, but the early offer can't hurt the good guys' cause. If Muncie should select Ohio State, then he would be a perfect candidate for the "Star" position (hybrid of safety and outside linebacker) currently manned by Jermale Hines and Tyler Moeller. Update 02/23/09 - Luke is planning to visit Ohio State on March 6th.

8. Ken Wilkins, Washington (Pennsylvania) Trinity (6' 3", 222 lbs, 4.61 forty); Ohio State (not offered) and Penn State (not offered) lead. Wilkins is from the same high school as current Buckeyes Andy Miller and Andrew Sweat. As a junior, Ken was named an All State (Class AAA) defensive end in Pennsylvania after recording 84 tackles, 8 sacks, and 2 fumble recoveries (both of which he returned for touchdowns). There is mutual interest between Wilkins and Ohio State, but with two other defensive end prospects already in the fold, the Buckeye staff may look outside of the local region for prospects before offering.

9. Antonio Kinard, Youngstown Liberty (6' 4", 200 lbs); Ohio State (not offered) in the mix. Quite frankly, we do not have a lot of information concerning Antonio Kinard, who hit the radar screen just recently. As a junior middle linebacker, Kinard had 86 tackles and 6 sacks. Antonio recently received an offer from Michigan, and we believe that Ohio State might follow suit in the near future.

10. Tyrone Williams, East Cleveland Shaw (6' 5", 204 lbs, 4.5 forty); Ohio State (not offered) in the mix. In watching his highlight film, it sometimes looks like a senior snuck onto the freshman football team, as Tyrone is clearly the best player on the field. Now, some of that discrepancy is undoubtedly due to the level of competition, but Williams is also a fine talent in his own right. As a junior, the rangy wide receiver had limited touches in just five games, but he still managed to collect 11 receptions for 372 yards (33.8 average) and 8 touchdowns. Ohio State has not yet offered, but Shaw has traditionally been a Buckeye-friendly program.

11. Alex Smith, West Chester Lakota West (6' 5", 225 lbs, 4.74 forty); Ohio State (not offered) trails Kentucky and Cincinnati (both offered). Smith is the top tight end prospect in Ohio for the class of 2010. As a junior, Alex caught 33 passes for 375 yards and 6 touchdowns. Although Lakota West is a pro-Buckeye school, Smith grew up a fan of Kentucky, and he has recently developed a strong interest in Cincinnati ... however, a Buckeye offer would still be tough to turn down. Alex has also received offers from Michigan, Illinois, Purdue, West Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina State, and Duke, but the Wildcats, Bearcats, and Buckeyes appear to be the three frontrunners at this point. Update 02/23 - Committed to Cincinnati.

Power

1. Andrew Norwell, Cincinnati Anderson (6' 7", 275 lbs); committed to Ohio State! Andrew Norwell may be the best offensive line prospect from the state of Ohio since Orlando Pace - he's strong and athletic; he's got a great frame, excellent footwork, and well-honed technique; and most important of all, he has a nasty streak that not enough linemen possess. Norwell is definitely an offensive tackle prospect, and he is probably the top player in Ohio regardless of position. Andrew committed to Ohio State on February 4, 2009.

2. Seantrel Henderson, Saint Paul (Minnesota) Cretin-Derham Hall (6' 8", 301 lbs); Ohio State (offered) in the mix. Henderson, who already has a NFL body, is the top offensive line prospect in the country for the class of 2010, and he may in fact be the #1 recruit overall. But Seantrel is not just a big kid with a great frame - he also has excellent footwork and technique for a high school player. With a kid this talented, who will have offers from every major program in the nation, it is probably too early to come up with an accurate list of favorites, but Minnesota, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and Florida are some of the names that have been bandied about already. Don't expect an early decision here.

3. Matt James, Cincinnati St. Xavier (6' 8", 280 lbs); Ohio State (offered) in top 2 (Notre Dame, offered). In any normal year, Matt James would be the number one offensive line prospect in the state of Ohio, but in 2010 he has to play second fiddle to his outstanding crosstown rival, Andrew Norwell. While Ohio State has already locked up Norwell, James is still weighing offers from Ohio State, Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Tennessee, Florida, and Michigan, amongst others. At the present time, it appears that Ohio State and Notre Dame are his co-leaders, but Cincinnati (Matt's father played for the Bearcats) is a strong dark horse candidate. No timetable for a decision.

4. Darryl Baldwin, Solon High School (6' 6", 245 lbs, 4.7 forty); Ohio State (offered?) leads. Baldwin plays defensive end in high school, but he will likely outgrow the position and play defensive tackle or offensive line in college. Although Darryl is an avowed Buckeye fan who received a very early offer from Ohio State, he has not yet committed to the home state school ... and he apparently does not have any plans to do so in the near future. Baldwin carries a 4.0+ GPA from one of the top public schools in the Cleveland area, and Stanford is on his short list of favorites.

5. Jimmy Gjere, Irondale (Minnesota) Irondale (6' 7", 275 lbs); Ohio State (not offered) in the mix (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, all offered). Jimmy Gjere (pronounced "Jerry") is another mammoth offensive tackle prospect from the state of Minnesota in the class of 2010. Gjere is lean and athletic, and he also is a star on his high school's hockey team. It's still too early to gauge Jimmy's interest in Ohio State, or what kind of attention he will receive on a national level. No stated favorites, although Minnesota will pull out all of the stops to keep this kid at home.

6. Jay Guy, Houston Eisenhower (6' 2", 300 lbs); Texas (not offered) leads. Jay is another player who has just recently hit the Buckeyes' radar screen. Guy admits to being a lifelong fan of the Texas Longhorns, but his interest in Ohio State has been piqued since the Buckeyes signed his teammate earlier this month, quarterback Kenneth Guiton. Jay currently holds offers from Texas A+M, Southern Methodist, Baylor, Kansas State, Missouri, California, Stanford, UCLA, Army, and Michigan. Ohio State has made contact and requested film, but it's still a bit too early to tell whether the staff will pursue this gap-plugging defensive tackle prospect. Update 02/19 - Jay made a surprising early commitment to California, and did not wait for offers from some of the major programs that were evaluating him such as Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, and Ohio State.

7. Andrew Donnal, Whitehouse Anthony Wayne (6' 7", 250 lbs, 4.91 forty); Ohio State (not offered) leads. Donall is yet another excellent offensive tackle prospect from the State of Ohio. However, the Buckeyes already have a firm verbal commitment from the state's top OT prospect (Andrew Norwell), and they are in on some other top local and national recruits (Seantrel Henderson, Matt James, Jimmy Gjere), so this lifelong Ohio State fan might be left out of the equation. If Ohio State doesn't have room, then Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Michigan State, Stanford, Maryland, West Virginia, and Toledo (all offered) are possible destinations.
 
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captainkenyon;1410525; said:
more top guys seem to be looking out of state than normal. I would hate to lose top ten Ohio guys to southern schools or ND. Bleck

I hear you but between '07 and '08: Dan McCarthy (#8 in Ohio, ND), Mike Zordich (#6 in Ohio, PSU), Kevin Koger (#12 in Ohio, scUM), Ben Martin (#1 in Ohio, Tennecheat), Kyle Rudolph (#2 in Ohio '08), and Cordale Scott (#8 in Ohio, Illinois). All rankings according to Rivals but all had OSU offers and were tough misses (6 total) but we should manage with OOS recruiting. Either way, I don't want to miss on any of James, Ware, or Hicks!
 
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I'm a little bummed there isn't more mutual interest with Alex Smith and Derrick Bryant so far. The coaches don't seem to be hitting Ohio as hard as I thought they would thus far either.

Thanks for the recruiting summary, BPRT.
 
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OregonBuckeye;1410686; said:
I'm a little bummed there isn't more mutual interest with Alex Smith and Derrick Bryant so far. The coaches don't seem to be hitting Ohio as hard as I thought they would thus far either.

Thanks for the recruiting summary, BPRT.

Bryant isn't OSU-calibur, IMO. There's a new video on BN$, via scoutingohio, and it really isn't impressive at all. scUM can have him. With Smith, I'm not sure how great of a chance we would have even with an offer. UC and UK are way out in front at this point. And like Hicks, he isn't a kid who grew up rooting for OSU. The role, or lack thereof, of the TE in the OSU offense doesn't help, either.

I agree with your main point, though. Smith, Christian Bryant and LaTwan Anderson should have offers right now.
 
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I'd like to get two RB's. Any combination of Hall, Howard, Ware, Brown, or Smith would be sweet!
I heard from someone that Latwan was coming down sometime before the spring game. If we offer him, I think we have as good of a chance as anyone. If not, I tend to think he ends up in Canichigan.
 
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