-
Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
- Thread starter ScriptOhio
- Start date
CHU
Hall of Fame
ScriptOhio;1859739; said:Think they will update their uniforms to reflect their sponser (like the MLS)?
No number on the front with football (soccer) jerseys. Just the sponsor (so a big ESPN).
College Football Talk brought up a good point about the network keeping quiet on certain things if it were to defame Texas (to an extent). ESPN has or does do it with LeBron's personal life (in regards to multiple situations).
They pretty much do it right now with the SEC and oversigning.
Upvote
0
MightbeaBuck
with hat in hand
Doesn't anyone see this as a conflict of interest? I mean, how can they support both the SEC and Texas? During ESPNews, will they alternate stories between the two? and how will they decide which will be the lead story? a coin toss? This world is just completely out of whack right now!Basebuck;1859633; said:
...and of course it happens when the world needs whack more than ever.
Upvote
0
ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Sooner is deluding itself if it thinks it can match the bevovision deal. Let's see
Texas: Houston, DFW, San Antonio, Austin
Oklahoma: Oklahoma City
University of Texas: Nationally spread out alumni base
OU: Not so much
Texas: Houston, DFW, San Antonio, Austin
Oklahoma: Oklahoma City
University of Texas: Nationally spread out alumni base
OU: Not so much
Upvote
0
Michael Rosenberg of SI.com takes a closer look at the Bevovision deal.
Apparently part of the plan is for this new network to show HS sports. We all know where this is headed...
Also, kinda funny from the same article:
Apparently part of the plan is for this new network to show HS sports. We all know where this is headed...
Also, kinda funny from the same article:
Upvote
0
spit and tears
Longhorn-Buckeye hybrid
What went wrong in 2010
Beginning with Colt McCoy's injury against 'Bama and pretty much continuing throughout the year, it felt like the football gods were taking one long dump on us Longhorn fans.
This is pretty interesting read on everything that went wrong, with a lot of insight as to why. (Hint: a lot of issues boil down to someone whose name rhymes with "Back Frown.") And given all the HS juniors on campus for Texas' junior day for 2012 recruits, the timing of the article is JUST PEACHY:
http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/what-went-wrong-a-case-study-of-texas-1250376.html
This really only confirms a lot of the rumors that were appearing on Longhorn interwebs (notably http://recruitocosm.fantake.com), but still kinda amazing in a "hey that is one hell of a car wreck" kind of way.
Better hope this doesn't happen to you, Buckeye fans!
Beginning with Colt McCoy's injury against 'Bama and pretty much continuing throughout the year, it felt like the football gods were taking one long dump on us Longhorn fans.
This is pretty interesting read on everything that went wrong, with a lot of insight as to why. (Hint: a lot of issues boil down to someone whose name rhymes with "Back Frown.") And given all the HS juniors on campus for Texas' junior day for 2012 recruits, the timing of the article is JUST PEACHY:
http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/what-went-wrong-a-case-study-of-texas-1250376.html
This really only confirms a lot of the rumors that were appearing on Longhorn interwebs (notably http://recruitocosm.fantake.com), but still kinda amazing in a "hey that is one hell of a car wreck" kind of way.
Better hope this doesn't happen to you, Buckeye fans!
Upvote
0
buckeyesin07
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
spit and tears;1873523; said:
No worries -- with all due respect, Tressel would never let OSU completely fall apart the way Texas did last year.
Upvote
0
bassbuckeye07
Hall of Fame
buckeyesin07;1873526; said:
Tressel will not be our coach forever....I think it is foolish to think ones program is impervious to a down turn.
Upvote
0
MaliBuckeye
1) Be A Man.
spit and tears;1873523; said:
Meh- THujone did it better: http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2011/02/calendar-of-emotions-as-experienced-by.html
Upvote
0
AuTX Buckeye
Founder & Pres of the Flemming/Holtmann Fan Club
Yahoo Pickem Champ
Former Game Champion
MaliBuckeye;1873552; said:
God bless the Picasso of MS Paint... I really really wish OSU had someone like him to immortalize the school and its fans in MS PAINT.
back to the original article. They've covered this right from the end of the season down here. it was finally dying down then Jerry Gray left... its a pretty interesting split... there are alot of people who said Mack should have hired him for the DC and that its Mack fault he's gone then there are others who say he's burned every bridge the guy ever had with Texas (from what I've heard he's wanted to come back and work at UT very very badly).
From an outsiders perspective I don't blame the guy.... he was a DB's coach in the NFL... took the DB's job at his alma mater, probably with hopes of being the coach, DC, or CO-DC.... then the Munchak came in and said " this is the only guy i want to be the DC" in the NFL.. hard to blame him.
Bottom line is this.. Mack had his hands off the program for the past couple of years with the intent of retiring this past year... 1 losing season and he cant let go (EGO is a bitch). He's got a great staff on paper, and will always have a top 5 recruiting class on paper, a weak conference, and boat loads of cash... I just have a feeling that UT is in for some rough years, call it karma, call it having to put up with the shit thats pumped out down here but its my opinion.
The TV will probably set the wheels of change in motion, there is a lot of hatred being directed towards Austin for that deal. I see A&M, at a minimum, going to the SEC and Texas going independent in 3-5 years.
Upvote
0
spit and tears
Longhorn-Buckeye hybrid
I don't blame Jerry Gray for leaving at all--chance to be a coordinator in the NFL versus a position coach in college, more than double his salary, etc. In fact I was surprised Gray took the job in the first place; I would not work for Mack.
Mack has had his hands off the program for most of the time since 2005, and arguably a lot of time BEFORE the 2005 season. Hell he didn't coach a bit in 2006, and 2007 was similar--I think it took getting embarrassed by an aggie team that had just fired its coach for Mack to replace a non-performer (Duane Akina, who he did retain as DB coach) on the coaching staff with someone who could instill discipline and toughness (Muschamp). The 2006 and 2007 teams managed 10-3 seasons, but they had a TON of talent (Colt McCoy, Jamaal Charles, Jermichael Finley, Brian Robison, Michael Griffin, Aaron Ross, Quan Cosby, Jordan Shipley, etc) and still needed minor miracles for some of those wins.
Mack is a somewhat contradictory, confusing coach. On the one hand he is a CEO-type who relies on his staff to do their jobs and he does not micromanage. If some on the staff start falling short (Greg Davis, Mac McWhorter, our former abomination of a strength and conditioning coach) that can be a recipe for disaster. I do think it's correct that Mack was not paying enough attention to recognize these underperformers and nip the issues they caused in the bud. The flip side of that is that other position coaches who DO recognize the problems get frustrated--bye bye Muschamp.
On the other hand, Mack had surrounded himself with sycophants (Greg Davis, Cleve Bryant, Jeff Madden, Duane Akina) who would not threaten him or go against him, which speaks to a desire for control and, as a posted pointed out above, a massive and fragile ego. Plenty of us bitched about Davis for years, but the Greg Davis offense reflected Mack--Greg trotted out the sideways offense because that's what Mack wanted. We bitched about the team's conditioning, but that was allowed to happen because the former S&C coach, Madden, was a flunky who would never go against Mack. He was pejoratively called "Mack's bodyguard." Mack ALLOWED Madden to treat his job like a part-time position.
Muschamp wasn't the first coach from outside Mack's inner circle to become disenchanted. Gene Chizik was barely speaking to Mack when he left--apparently he and Mack had philosophical differences about how a defense should be run. The one year Dick Tomey was on staff, in 2004, Tomey reportedly clashed with Madden because he (Tomey) was bringing an NFL mentality to workouts. Any wonder that Chizik took a coaching job at Iowa freakin' State, or that Tomey took the job at San Jose State?
I am glad Mack finally cut out some of the deadwood on his staff, and I am glad he went after up-and-comers for their replacements--Bryan Harsin, Bennie Wylie, Manny Diaz, etc...
... HOWEVER, I hope he will let those guys do their jobs, and hold everyone on his staff to the same standards. The past does not fill me with a lot of hope on that account, however. The only cause for optimism I see is that all of his favorites are gone. Maybe he will be objective for a change.
I just wish we'd beaten Bama. I think he would have retired that night, and 2010 might have still sucked, but not for the same reasons.
What's amazing for me to think about is this: we could have beaten Bama and won the MNC, and if Mack HAD stayed, most of the ingredients were there (complacency, arrogance, lazy recruiting, lazy game-planning) to go 5-7 anyway!!!
Mack has had his hands off the program for most of the time since 2005, and arguably a lot of time BEFORE the 2005 season. Hell he didn't coach a bit in 2006, and 2007 was similar--I think it took getting embarrassed by an aggie team that had just fired its coach for Mack to replace a non-performer (Duane Akina, who he did retain as DB coach) on the coaching staff with someone who could instill discipline and toughness (Muschamp). The 2006 and 2007 teams managed 10-3 seasons, but they had a TON of talent (Colt McCoy, Jamaal Charles, Jermichael Finley, Brian Robison, Michael Griffin, Aaron Ross, Quan Cosby, Jordan Shipley, etc) and still needed minor miracles for some of those wins.
Mack is a somewhat contradictory, confusing coach. On the one hand he is a CEO-type who relies on his staff to do their jobs and he does not micromanage. If some on the staff start falling short (Greg Davis, Mac McWhorter, our former abomination of a strength and conditioning coach) that can be a recipe for disaster. I do think it's correct that Mack was not paying enough attention to recognize these underperformers and nip the issues they caused in the bud. The flip side of that is that other position coaches who DO recognize the problems get frustrated--bye bye Muschamp.
On the other hand, Mack had surrounded himself with sycophants (Greg Davis, Cleve Bryant, Jeff Madden, Duane Akina) who would not threaten him or go against him, which speaks to a desire for control and, as a posted pointed out above, a massive and fragile ego. Plenty of us bitched about Davis for years, but the Greg Davis offense reflected Mack--Greg trotted out the sideways offense because that's what Mack wanted. We bitched about the team's conditioning, but that was allowed to happen because the former S&C coach, Madden, was a flunky who would never go against Mack. He was pejoratively called "Mack's bodyguard." Mack ALLOWED Madden to treat his job like a part-time position.
Muschamp wasn't the first coach from outside Mack's inner circle to become disenchanted. Gene Chizik was barely speaking to Mack when he left--apparently he and Mack had philosophical differences about how a defense should be run. The one year Dick Tomey was on staff, in 2004, Tomey reportedly clashed with Madden because he (Tomey) was bringing an NFL mentality to workouts. Any wonder that Chizik took a coaching job at Iowa freakin' State, or that Tomey took the job at San Jose State?
I am glad Mack finally cut out some of the deadwood on his staff, and I am glad he went after up-and-comers for their replacements--Bryan Harsin, Bennie Wylie, Manny Diaz, etc...
... HOWEVER, I hope he will let those guys do their jobs, and hold everyone on his staff to the same standards. The past does not fill me with a lot of hope on that account, however. The only cause for optimism I see is that all of his favorites are gone. Maybe he will be objective for a change.
I just wish we'd beaten Bama. I think he would have retired that night, and 2010 might have still sucked, but not for the same reasons.
What's amazing for me to think about is this: we could have beaten Bama and won the MNC, and if Mack HAD stayed, most of the ingredients were there (complacency, arrogance, lazy recruiting, lazy game-planning) to go 5-7 anyway!!!
Upvote
0
