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Tenn 24, UCLA 27 (Final, OT)

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jlb1705;1245933; said:
No kidding. Normally we see these performances against the likes of Ole Miss, Miss Stake, Arkansas & Kentucky, and people say it's indicative of the strength of the conference. Now maybe they can start calling it what it is: crap football.
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I'm not going to go so far as to say these two UT season openers prove anything other than its tough to load up the wagons and play big games away from your home turf. It's something the SEC and Pac 10 should have to do more often imo.

Come on up and play a Bowl game in Cleveland and tell us its a neutral site.
 
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I'm not going to go so far as to say these two UT season openers prove anything other than its tough to load up the wagons and play big games away from your home turf. It's something the SEC and Pac 10 should have to do more often imo.

Come on up and play a Bowl game in Cleveland and tell us its a neutral site.
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Bingo. Doesn't change my opinion one iota that the SEC is clearly the best conference around, but most of their teams have a pretty cushy set up... stay near home where winning is much easier, and once SEC games start, you're all set. Emerge as the champion and enjoy the spoils, or lose and bolster the SEC's prestige and "difficulty".
 
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tugger5000;1245922; said:
...how a single team's performance reflects on the whole conference.

[sarcasm] Apparently UT is the SEC and with their loss tonight, the SEC has been exposed as a weak conference. [/sarcasm]

Sounds awfully familiar... :biggrin:
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Its not that people think the SEC is weak. Its that people are sick of hearing the SEC say its so good. Anytime someone has their boasting blow up in their face, people are going to respond. Besides, if every fanbase in the SEC is going to ride the coat tails of everone ELSE in the conference, when someone ELSE in that conference lose they all better line up and hear about the loss.

While I wanted MSU, Illinois, and Michigan to win(okay maybe not Michigan)...I wasn't going to run to every msg board or article on the internet and boast about how great our conference is, at least not until we've beaten them all and won the NC.
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I don't mean to compare conferences here but I can remember a while back the at least two team from the SEC have ventured out in the beginning of the OOC scheduling and have played teams from the PAC10 in the past 10 to 20 years and they were Alabama and Tennessee. The BIG10 have been doing that as well for many many years. Strenght of schedule has a dominoe theory because of the fact that we all know many schedules are made 8 to 10 years in advance. I can't remember teams like Florida or Georgia going out on the limb to play teams early in the year to bolster thier strenght of schedule apperances.
 
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Magua;1245957; said:
Its not that people think the SEC is weak. Its that people are sick of hearing the SEC say its so good. Anytime someone has their boasting blow up in their face, people are going to respond. Besides, if every fanbase in the SEC is going to ride the coat tails of everone ELSE in the conference, when someone ELSE in that conference lose they all better line up and hear about the loss.

While I wanted MSU, Illinois, and Michigan to win(okay maybe not Michigan)...I wasn't going to run to every msg board or article on the internet and boast about how great our conference is, at least not until we've beaten them all and won the NC.
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Other then a few trolls on this board I really don't see a lot of people bragging about how good the sec is tbh...I don't post on those high tech espn boards though.If you go to a forum with an sec fan base i'm sure you will hear about it,but that's kind of like saying you will come here and expect an unbiased opinion about ohio state.It's just what fans do.
 
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kippy1040;1245960; said:
I don't mean to compare conferences here but I can remember a while back the at least two team from the SEC have ventured out in the beginning of the OOC scheduling and have played teams from the PAC10 in the past 10 to 20 years and they were Alabama and Tennessee. The BIG10 have been doing that as well for many many years. Strenght of schedule has a dominoe theory because of the fact that we all know many schedules are made 8 to 10 years in advance. I can't remember teams like Florida or Georgia going out on the limb to play teams early in the year to bolster thier strenght of schedule apperances.
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Florida plays Miami and Florida St all the time.

Thats a pretty tough OOC most years, though not as of late.
 
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powerlifter;1245962; said:
Other then a few trolls on this board I really don't see a lot of people bragging about how good the sec is tbh...I don't post on those high tech espn boards though.If you go to a forum with an sec fan base i'm sure you will hear about it,but that's kind of like saying you will come here and expect an unbiased opinion about ohio state.
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If you read any articles on ESPN, read the comments. Watch a youtube video, read the comments. Listen to SEC crowds towards the end of a victory.

They talk up every team in their conference...even if their own team got shellacked by the team they're discussing or is floating around .500.

I'm not saying they are ALL like this. I think we all know every school and region of the country has its rejects. I know lots of very cool realistic down to earth fans of an SEC team.

But you don't hear us chanting Big10 Big10 Big10 at the end of throttling Youngstown St.
 
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NFBuck;1245937; said:
I'm not one of those people that cry foul everytime the SEC's power is mentioned. They play damn good football down there and have the past two BCS national Champions. They've earned some of the praise they get. I do, however, think it's a little overblown. Typically, there's one or two really good SEC teams and a handful of pretty good teams. It reflects in their overall OOC and Bowl record. They're no different than any other conference. Personally, I think the Big 12 is much stronger this season.
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What bothers me is when we have to hear the "oh our schedule is so tough with teams like Florida, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama" argument. What SEC supporters fail to mention is that those teams are split into two different divisions, so only a major fuck-job by the SEC schedule makers has a team playing more than three or four of those teams in any given year, and they obviously don't play themselves. I don't see how there is that large a margin of difference vs, say, Ohio State having to play Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin.

Well, other than this year's Michigan team sucks, of course.

But the point stands. And Tennessee and Alabama are habitually overrated thanks to their names.

This Tennessee team is fucking terrible. They should have thumped UCLA by three TDs. Didn't Phil learn not to hire the high-school-OC du jour after the Arkansas/Springfield debacle?

Also, what the hell is up with Neuheisel wearing a sweater vest?
 
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