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Tay"LLLL"or "LLLL"ewan (douchebag)

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The ridiculous part is that kickers are pretty much fungible in this sport - even the good ones, and even for a program of M*ch*g*n's diminished stature. It's understandable (though reprehensible nonetheless) to hang on to an irreplaceable player under those circumstances. It's incomprehensible to do it when the player can be replaced in days by an open tryout from the existing student body.
 
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jlb1705 said:
The ridiculous part is that kickers are pretty much fungible in this sport - even the good ones, and even for a program of M*ch*g*n's diminished stature. It's understandable (though reprehensible nonetheless) to hang on to an irreplaceable player under those circumstances. It's incomprehensible to do it when the player can be replaced in days by an open tryout from the existing student body.
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Alabama would like to talk to you about this fungible position.
 
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Coqui said:
Alabama would like to talk to you about this fungible position.
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If Alabama needed to cut their kicker over a conduct issue they could quickly and easily find a replacement of equivalent ability. The fact that they have a lousy kicker (and would be likely to replace him with another lousy one) says more about how much they value the position and that aspect of the game than how difficult it is to find a competent one.
 
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jlb1705 said:
The ridiculous part is that kickers are pretty much fungible in this sport - even the good ones, and even for a program of M*ch*g*n's diminished stature. It's understandable (though reprehensible nonetheless) to hang on to an irreplaceable player under those circumstances. It's incomprehensible to do it when the player can be replaced in days by an open tryout from the existing student body.
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The "irreplaceable player" in this instance is Taylor Lewan. He literally was the face of Mich. football this season. There was no way for Mich. to go public with Gibbons' crimes without exposing Lewan.
 
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An additional OSCR document signed by Vander Velde and dated Nov. 20, 2013, stated that it was determined by the University that a preponderance of evidence supports “a finding that the Respondent engaged in unwanted or unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature, committed without valid consent, and that conduct was so severe as to create a hostile, offensive, or abusive environment.” The Daily has been told that the respondent referred to in this letter is Gibbons.
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http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/former-kicker-brendan-gibbons-expelled-sexual-misconduct

So let me get this straight--the University of Michigan made that finding with respect to Gibbons, and yet three days later on November 23, 2013, he was allowed to suit up for the University of Michigan and he kicked three extra points in the Michigan vs. Iowa football game?
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
The disgusting part is that those idiots on Michigan fan boards probably think Tressel is a worse individual than Gibbons (and they almost certainly think Tress is worse than Hoke). Over on mgoblog, they're--predictably--saying that if having Gibbons on the team for the past 4 years is an issue at all (as if that is seriously in dispute), that lies with RichRod and not Hoke. You can't make this stuff up.
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There may be some truth to that. It's hard to say w/o knowing all the details of reports from, between, and within Police Dept and University.

However, it happened 22Nov2009 ... Richrod was fired 04Jan2011, over a year later. He would've been the one to cover it up. This may have been the first time Hoke knew about anything about it.
Though the comments about "injury" and "family matter" are rather suspect. Then again, Urban used similar misleading language for Spence' ecstasy issue. I imagine the same law that prevents University bureaucrats from discussing specifics also applies to Coaches... all they can say is something along the lines of "personal matter" (or in this case "family").

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The "irreplaceable player" in this instance is Taylor Lewan. He literally was the face of Mich. football this season. There was no way for Mich. to go public with Gibbons' crimes without exposing Lewan.
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And that is the real issue in my opinion.
Did Gibbons already graduate? If his degree is finished, does it still stand?
Pretty scum behavior from scum.
 
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Oh8ch said:
The one clear kill here - and even the UM posters are recognizing it - is that Hoke lied about/concealed the reason for Gibbons missing at least the bowl game.

All he had to do was say "violation of team rules", but he wasn't that smart.

And upon one simple lie gigantic conspiracy theories can thrive.
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And the real question that is going to hang over their head...why wasn't this dealt with in 2009? tOSU lost a beloved head coach because he concealed some emails about players trading their possessions for tattoos, which boiled down to a simple ncaa eligibility issue. This is a criminal issue that went unresolved for 4+ years while the "alleged" perpetrator continued to kick FGs and extra points for their cash-cow football program. Then, suddenly, as his eligibility expires, they see fit to expel him from the school. In other words, to quote a great Stanley Kubrick film..."this is a giant shit sandwich, and they're all gonna have to take a bite."
 
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Just what the new incoming President of the University wanted to deal with, I'm sure.

When I see this stuff, we are no better than OSU or any other program.
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Well, see, tOSU broke simple ncaa rules, and we payed the price. This is criminal shit and closer to what went on in Rhythmic Slappy Valley than Columbus. So, no...you're no better than OSU. You're much worse.
 
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