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Superbowl XL Terrorist Attack?

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tibor75 said:
Correct. But then again the US has this irrational belief that sporting events here actually matter in other countries (WORLD Series)
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If other countries aren't interested, then they don't need to broadcast it. Aside from that, the terrorists tend to target the infidel west, of which the US of A is the acknowledged leader.

Tibs, if you are so unhappy with our country, feel free to get the fuck out.
 
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tibor75 said:
Nobody in South America, Africa, Asia, or Australia cares about the super bowl. The only poeple in Europe who do are former Americans.
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Uh, thanks for sharing your vast international expertise there, Tibs. :roll1:

Now, can you please explain why the game is telecast in so many countries, such as South Africa? :tongue2:
 
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tibor75 said:
If he wanted maximum effect, Bin Laden would be better served to have an attack during the Olympics.
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If he does that, he offends everybody. If he hits the Superbowl, he can still pretend he's only a hater on the "evil Empire" and its misguided allies, and the more anti-American and appeasement-oriented of our Western European and other allies can still pretend that his beef is really with us, as opposed to with Western civilization generally. I think what he wants most is division among the civilized people of the world, and he doesn't get that by attacking the Olympics.
 
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Okay, let's game plan this. What form could an attack take?

Option #1: Crashed airliner. They've played that card before. If we're not ready for it again, well, not much place to lay the blame, is there?

Option #2: Truck bomb. If security isn't checking every truck that goes in and out of the area around Ford Field, again, there's a problem.

Option #3: Suicide bombers in the crowd. This is AlQ's new tactic in the west, and the most likely, IMO. It does less physical damage and causes fewer casualties, but still has the psychological impact. Remember the kid who blew himself up at the Nebraska game? There's your trial run.

Option #4: Suicide bombers at Super Bowl parties and events. A team of six lunatics could do a similar amount of damage without ever getting into the game.

Option #5: Pre-planted bomb. Unlikely. AlQ has never gone that route, and bomb sweeps have to be a part of the security protocol. To really do damage, it has to be a very large physically.

Option #6: WMD. Nuke, bio or chemical. AlQ hasn't gone that route, and hasn't had a base of operations from which to develop anything like that. I'd consider that to be more of a "movie of the week" plot than anything feasible.

Option #7: IED. Going at this thing Iraqi style, and setting off bombs around the stadium while crowds are going in. Again, you'd have to think that bomb squads would be sweeping mailboxes, trash cans and newspaper boxes for that. However, this is essentially what the Atlanta Olympic bombing was. Home-grown lunatics have done plenty of damage Unibomber style with pipe bombs and the like.

Going through that, some types seem more likely than others. My top pick for a realistic scenario is a sleeper cell of four to six suicide bombers that target the crowd outside of the security perimeter. Noting that the kid in Nebraska couldn't get in the game, they may not even try.

What I don't see is a way to pull of a 9/11 style attack, short of a smuggled nuke. With the large crowds, however, a London-Madrid style deal could happen.
 
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While not defending the nature of Tibor's comments, according to an article in this week's SI his impression is accurate regarding the relative lack of interest world-wide.

From Steve Rushin's Air and Space column on page 19 (Feb. 6th issue):

Initiative, a New York-based media research firm, measured the global audience for last year's Super Bowl at 93 million people, with 98% of those viewers in North America.

That means only about 2 million people outside North America watch the Super Bowl, out of over 5 billion.

The article points out that the '1 billion viewers' thing is a myth, and that the NFL only states that the game "is broadcast in 225 countries to a potential audience of 1 billion."
 
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BrutusBobcat said:
Okay, let's game plan this. What form could an attack take?


Option #3: Suicide bombers in the crowd. This is AlQ's new tactic in the west, and the most likely, IMO. It does less physical damage and causes fewer casualties, but still has the psychological impact. Remember the kid who blew himself up at the Nebraska game? There's your trial run.
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I don't remember this? Not saying it didn't happen, just want some info on the incident. Thanks!
 
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BB73 said:
While not defending the nature of Tibor's comments, according to an article in this week's SI his impression is accurate regarding the relative lack of interest world-wide.

From Steve Rushin's Air and Space column on page 19 (Feb. 6th issue):

Initiative, a New York-based media research firm, measured the global audience for last year's Super Bowl at 93 million people, with 98% of those viewers in North America.

That means only about 2 million people outside North America watch the Super Bowl, out of over 5 billion.

The article points out that the '1 billion viewers' thing is a myth, and that the NFL only states that the game "is broadcast in 225 countries to a potential audience of 1 billion."
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why is this a surprise? I was in Australia in November and the NFL scores were listed on a small box in the Sydney paper with no mention in article form. If Sydney could care less, why would any other city in Australia...or the rest of Asia...or Africa...or Europe?
 
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Wingate1217 said:
I don't remember this? Not saying it didn't happen, just want some info on the incident. Thanks!
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Aha! I don't blame you one bit for not remembering -- our ever-dilligent news media didn't cover the story.

(Sorry, I got one detail wrong -- it was Oklahoma, not Nebraska)

Oklahoma claimed that it was a student committing suicide. He did a fine job, blasting himself into puree with a set of bombs in a backpack. Upon further review, it turns out that a short time earlier, a feed store reported that the same kid (a caucasian American, for those wondering) came in trying to buy some Ammonium Nitrate. An off-duty sherrif's deputy witnessed this and wrote a report on the incident.

So, the kid goes to the game with a backpack and tries to get in several gates. They won't let him in without searching the backpack. Nervously, he walks away and goes to sit on a bench. Several minutes before halftime, one of the few witnesses to the event said that he appeared to be digging around in the backpack when it exploded. Several nearby buses were damaged, and shrapnel was found in trees around the area where he was sitting. No one else was injured.

Here's where it gets good. You're thinking, "white kid, ammonium nitrate -- some kind of right wing militia type". Well, skip that. He was a converted muslim, who later turned out to have an apartment full of bomb making material. He also attended the same mosque in Norman as some other unsavory types (I'm thinking that Zacharias Moussawi was one of them).

Interesting story that got zero play. Mostly you can find details of it in blogspace. Oklahoma went on the offensive immediately, claiming that the kid was depressed and it was a suicide, nothing to see here, move along folks.

Normally, I'm the kind of person who laughs at conspiracy theories, but here's some interesting facts.

First, that Oklahoma game had higher security than any game they'd had, including sweeping the stadium before the game for bombs. Perhaps the deputy's report got someone's attention.

Second, I happened to be at an NFL game the next day in Atlanta. For the first time this season, they did pat down searches of every single fan entering. The Falcons fans I went with all agreed that they'd never seen that level of security before. My understanding is that all NFL games that Sunday went to those extra measures, under orders from the NFL.

Obviously, someone thought that there was a higher threat level than before.

Was the kid acting alone? Obviously by the fact that he tried to get into the stadium, he intended to take a few other people with him.
 
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