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Stupid two point conversions (SimpLLLLLe Jim loves 'em, and so does James Franklin)

Harvard is about the last team you'd expect to put the stupid in STPCs, but they've accomplished that at rival Yale.

One failure led to another and it's 18-17 in the 4th rather than 20-17.
 
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Special shout out to Jake from Bielema on Saturday.

Illinois scored to go up 40-28 with just over 5 minutes left, so they went for 2 as expected. Their OL was called for OPI in the end zone for blocking a defender as the receiver caught the ball over the middle just short of the goal line and then got into the end zone. With the severe 15 yards on that penalty, the ball is now on the 18 and Bert went for 2 again anyway, and of course they failed.

Then Purdue scores with just under 2 minutes left to get within 40-35 and recovers an onside kick. They get a first down in the red zone with a little over 50 seconds left, and then they should have let the clock run down to 30 seconds or so since they had 2 timeouts left. But they hiked it quickly, still in hurry-up modem and scored with 47 seconds left. Their successful 2-pointer put them up 43-40.

The Illini then cross midfield and get extremely lucky when a strip-sack gets a quick whistle as Altmeyer was holding the tip of the ball and pressing it against his leg as the guy is tackling him and ripping at the ball. I thought it should have been a fumble and game over, but it was one of those calls where replay wasn’t going to change it either way, So they get into FG range and tie the game at the end, which would have been a game-winner if Bert had kicked the long XP earlier.

Then in OT they both scored easily, the Illini went up, Purdue got it to 50-49 and went for 2 and the win, but their QB ate the ball under pressure so Illinois survived. If that 2-pointer had worked, Bert would have gotten some tough questions about the 2-point try from the 18-yard line.
 
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I'm watching the Thursday Night game. Bucs vs. Falcons. 28-14, 4th quarter, when the Falcons scored to make it 28-20. They tried to get 2, and failed. Fine. I get the analytics. If you get it, you just need another touchdown + 1 to win. If you fail, you have another chance to tie.
But does it ever work? They were then down 28-20, and scored another touchdown. Now they NEED to get 2... but they failed again. 3:29 left now, down 2, and the other team has the ball.
Does this move ever work?

Now that I think of it, I think the Browns also had a similar situation on Sunday. And failed both times.
Stop trying to be fancy.
 
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I'm watching the Thursday Night game. Bucs vs. Falcons. 28-14, 4th quarter, when the Falcons scored to make it 28-20. They tried to get 2, and failed. Fine. I get the analytics. If you get it, you just need another touchdown + 1 to win. If you fail, you have another chance to tie.
But does it ever work? They were then down 28-20, and scored another touchdown. Now they NEED to get 2... but they failed again. 3:29 left now, down 2, and the other team has the ball.
Does this move ever work?

Now that I think of it, I think the Browns also had a similar situation on Sunday. And failed both times.
Stop trying to be fancy.
I guess it isn't going to kill them. They kicked a FG to win 29-28.
 
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I'm watching the Thursday Night game. Bucs vs. Falcons. 28-14, 4th quarter, when the Falcons scored to make it 28-20. They tried to get 2, and failed. Fine. I get the analytics. If you get it, you just need another touchdown + 1 to win. If you fail, you have another chance to tie.
But does it ever work? They were then down 28-20, and scored another touchdown. Now they NEED to get 2... but they failed again. 3:29 left now, down 2, and the other team has the ball.
Does this move ever work?

Now that I think of it, I think the Browns also had a similar situation on Sunday. And failed both times.
Stop trying to be fancy.
Still very dumb to me. This new fad. Even as a “numbers” guy it doesn’t make sense to me practically.

The idea is you make 50% of 2pt conversions? So you make the first and you’re in the driver’s seat to win easy with a TD+XP. Or you miss and get the next 2pt conversion to tie. But that 50% chance doesn’t care about the previous miss. You can still miss 2 in a row.

That doesn’t even get into situational stuff - matchup, offense vs defense, momentum, psychological impact of missing. Just kick the XPs and tie. Keep the pressure on the team blowing a 14 point lead. Or at least kick the first then maybe be ballsy go for a win at the end.
 
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