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Choose 3 starting LB


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News flash, photo-boy (flash, photo-boy, get it?), field speed is different than 40 speed. There's a reason why Kerr is the #1 MLB on the depth chart. Tell you what, you go tell the coaches they're wrong and that Kerr doesn't belong there...
I agree, and I question whether Kerr's game speed will match that of Schlegel's. And neither this a photographer/fan (who saw him live) nor the hawaiian (talking down to a fellow non-expert fan rather than debating) will know until we see him suit up in September. I'm not sold on his production at IU, nor what I saw this spring.

I view Kerr in a similar fashion to A Smith... I believe both can be solid starters at their position, I believe they lack the ideal measurables to keep more talented backups off the field as the season progresses.
Taos called for Carp to play full-time DE with Freeman starting in his place.
you're probably right, I merely remember carp + de = taos. I still hold it was a bit of a surprise to see how often Carp lined up there.
 
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Absolutely. He was a better pass rusher than I anticipated. He out-willed some of those OL and other times his presence was enough to open the door for someone else.

Taos called the pass rushing aspect for sure...just not the personnel issue.
It might have happened more if we had not lost Freeman for most of the year.
 
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My observation of Laurainitis not looking natural, was a nice way of saying that from reviewing the last two games of the season - he got neutralized (eaten up) by blockers often before he had any meaningful pursuit.

I understand that you are sticking with Laurainitis at SLB, but I watch and re-watch these games as much as the average poster on this board - so despite the fact that he was a freshman, he was certainly not a playmaker in there.

I know that it is hard to compare a true freshman to guys like Hawk, but at this point, I would not make anyone outside of Freeman a lock at any of these positions. In fact, I've heard from some OSU backers that are even more maniacal than me that Laurainitis to MLB is highly likely this season.

It's not a dig on Laurainitis to say that you think he may be better suited for MLB, is it?
 
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It might have happened more if we had not lost Freeman for most of the year.
Possibly...but then again, Freeman is still unproven. Just playing Devil's Advocate to your Devil's Advocate.

My observation of Laurainitis not looking natural, was a nice way of saying that from reviewing the last two games of the season - he got neutralized (eaten up) by blockers often before he had any meaningful pursuit.
Would you guess that he graded out or no?

...just asking. I respect your explanation here...just want to further the evaluation.
 
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Hmmm, seems to me you managed to refute your own point.

Not really. MacGargoyle was a senior...Kerr was a true freshman. Even on a bad defense, to lead all freshman in the conference in tackles is at least fairly impressive, whereas being a senior and a Butkus watch-list LB on a bad defense isn't.

Back to the fact that Kerr is #1 on the depth chart at MLB.
 
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I think a lot of people are selling Kerr short. The guys a player and with the strength of our D being the front line, whoever plays in the middle (Kerr, MDA, Hoobler) they should have a stellar year. Personally, I wouldn't be the least bit worried with JK manning the middle.

As far as the MLB's are concerned. IMO

MDA is our fastest MLB, with the most talent, but the jury is still out on his health.

Kerr is our best tackling MLB, with probably the best natural instincts. But is probably the slowest of the three. Though he is as fast or faster than Schegal.

Hoobler is best against the pass at MLB position and also has the ability to play the LEO position. Hoobler could be the next Matt Whilhelm if he got it all together.
 
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I think it'll be Freeman, Laurinitis, and Kerr. A few points...

- I'm really rooting for Kerr after he gave up $80,000 and a guaranteed 3 more years of starting to play for the Scarlet and Grey.

- People are talking about Laurinitis not being a playmaker... kid made 200 tackles his senior year of high school. 200! His problem with "not making plays" last year was that he was a true freshman playing in two of the biggest games of the year on a team loaded with NFL talent. Since then, he's packed on an additional 15 pounds of muscle without losing a step, in addition to getting to truly learn the system. It's been said that a player's biggest jump in progression happens between the first and second year. He'll be just fine.

- Mili said that MDA is the 2nd fastest LB... I think Curtis Terry may have something to say about that. Not sure about that, but I have a feeling Curtis could outrun him, FWIW.
 
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Not really. MacGargoyle was a senior...Kerr was a true freshman. Even on a bad defense, to lead all freshman in the conference in tackles is at least fairly impressive, whereas being a senior and a Butkus watch-list LB on a bad defense isn't.

Back to the fact that Kerr is #1 on the depth chart at MLB.

Actually, yes really. Kerr was a true freshman and won an award against other FRESHMAN. I dont see why that is any more impressive than a Senior Mac having more tackles than anyone, and that includes ALL players. As a matter of fact, I dont hold it in as high esteem. At least, that's how I see it.
 
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- Mili said that MDA is the 2nd fastest LB... I think Curtis Terry may have something to say about that. Not sure about that, but I have a feeling Curtis could outrun him, FWIW.

I looked in Terry's thread and didn't see a 40 time, but I'm not sure if he has run faster than 4.45 (if he has, someone correct me). Still, I should've qualified my statement about MDA's being second fastest as second fastest returning LB, seeing as we have Gibson at 4.3 and Grant at 4.4 coming in...
 
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- People are talking about Laurinitis not being a playmaker... kid made 200 tackles his senior year of high school. 200! His problem with "not making plays" last year was that he was a true freshman playing in two of the biggest games of the year on a team loaded with NFL talent. Since then, he's packed on an additional 15 pounds of muscle without losing a step, in addition to getting to truly learn the system. It's been said that a player's biggest jump in progression happens between the first and second year. He'll be just fine.

An excellent point. If the coaches thought he couldn't get it done, they wouldn't have sent him in for Carp at Scum and then again for the Fiesta. I expected him to do his job, and he did. I did not expect him to pick up where Carp left off. This year, I expect him to take more of a "playmaking" role, since he does have big game expierence and a whole year in the program under his belt. That does not mean I expect him to make anyone forget Bobby Carpenter, but like you, I expect that he will be just fine.
 
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