mercurial1;1585693; said:
If he doesn't start scanning recievers better and develope as a better pocket passer, I'd like to see them move him over to tight end or wide reciever.
The kid's got great hands and we all know he's fast enough and has the hieght for the position.
I think it would be a good move for everyone.
Terrelle Pryor is the best pure athlete ever to play at Ohio State. Just think about all of the great Buckeye players over the years ... Chic Harley ... Wes Fesler ... Les Horvath ... Vic Janowicz ... Hopalong Cassady ... Archie Griffin ... Eddie George ... Troy Smith ... and all of the great Buckeye athletes ... Paul Warfield ... Rex Kern ... Cornelius Greene ... Neal Colzie ... Joey Galloway ... Chris Gamble ... Teddy Ginn.... And guess what? Terrelle Pryor is a better pure athlete, has more natural talent, than any of them. He's a freak.
And what's the most important position on the offense? Quarterback, without question, because the entire offense runs through the quarterback. The quarterback has more opportunities to make plays than any other player, and if he is a "dual threat" quarterback, then he can make plays in both the passing game and the running game. Especially in a "read option" system that Ohio State has been using at times this year.
Now what's the least important position on the offensive side of the ball? Wide receiver, because unlike quarterbacks and running backs, wide receivers can't make plays by themselves ... in other words, wide receivers need someone to get them the ball. And unlike quarterbacks and running backs, a wide receiver can be shut down in one-on-one matchups. And when a wide receiver isn't the focus of the play (and he usually isn't), he doesn't really have much to do ... unlike linemen, wide receivers rarely block at the point of attack ... unlike running backs, wide receivers never block in pass protection ... wide receivers aren't even very good decoys, generally speaking.
So, here's the situation with Terrelle Pryor ... the best pure athlete ever to don the scarlet and grey ... playing by far the most important position on offense (on the whole team, really) ... with decent production and many big plays through his first year and a half ... in an offense that is designed around a mobile quarterback and has several designed quarterback runs ... and you want to move him? From the most important position on the team to the least? From a position where he has 40 or 50 chances to make impact plays every game to a position where he might get 6 or 8 chances a game to even touch the football? Really? Doesn't make much sense to me....
Even if Pryor only realizes 60% to 70% of his potential at Ohio State, he'll still go down in Buckeye history as one of the greatest and most productive players ever. He would do no such thing as a wide receiver.
mercurial1;1585693; said:
Cause let's face it, the way he's playin' right now he is not gonna make a pro QB.
Let's face it ... I really don't care whether Pryor makes it in the NFL. Besides, Pryor will be a high draft pick based on his unreal combination of size and pure athleticism, together with his high ceiling.
mercurial1;1585701; said:
I know he's young, Dude. He's only a sophomore and has time to get better.
Oh, yeah? Then why do you essentially ignore this fact in your argument? Pryor is already #12 on the Buckeyes' list of career total yardage leaders (ED: He is now up to 2nd place, with 7,587 total yards) ... and he could crack the top ten by the end of his sophomore season ... and barring injury or an early exit for the NFL, he will almost certainly be the Buckeyes' career total yardage leader when he graduates, breaking Art Schlichter's 30-year old record in the process (8,850 yards from 1978 to 1981). But you're willing to give up on the most productive Buckeye offensive player in history because ... why? You'd rather see him get a few catches a game at wide receiver? Um, no thanks....
mercurial1;1585701; said:
But I'm stickin' to my guns when I say he'd make a better reciever.
Even if you are right ... and you aren't ... what is Ohio State's other quarterback option right now? Joe Bauserman? Kenny Guiton? Some walk-on? It's not like the Buckeyes have a couple of five-star quarterbacks waiting in the wings just in case Pryor can't cut it. (ED: Now they do have Braxton Miller, but he is an unproven true freshman). Pryor at wide receiver would be a monumental waste of talent and potential ... but you would compound your error exponentially if you replaced him with a quarterback who can't get him the ball.
Okay, so Ohio State doesn't exactly have a stable of quarterbacks right now, so it's understandable that your suggested move makes no practical sense (it makes no theoretical sense either, as I explained above). But how many teams are there where Pryor
wouldn't be the clear starting quarterback right now? Florida and Texas for sure, probably Notre Dame and Oregon, maybe Southern Cal and Oklahoma State ... anyone else? So Pryor sits behind Tebow, McCoy, Clausen, and Masoli ... maybe the top four Heisman candidates right now ... and more than likely beats out every other quarterback in the country. But you want to move him? To wide receiver? So that he can get three or four catches a game with Joe Bauserman throwing him the ball? Get outta here....
mercurial1;1585701; said:
He's not easy to bring down either.
He's not easy to bring down as a quarterback ... and he gets five to ten times as many chances to make plays at quarterback than he would at wide receiver.
And as others have already mentioned, tall wide receivers often have difficulty getting off of the line and gaining separation from defensive backs.
As to your suggestion that Pryor be moved to tight end ... I don't know anyone who would even consider putting a "skinny" kid with 4.3 speed at tight end. Maybe someone from the Browns' front office....
mercurial1;1585706; said:
I've had several agree with me on switching his position.
All of which were very well read football fans, I'll mention.
I doubt very much that you have had "several ... well read football fans" agree with your argument. Maybe several well-lubricated football fans.
mercurial1;1585706; said:
This could very well mean the difference between a productive career in the NFL or no.
College is sometimes a great opportunity to discover you're better suited in a different job on the football field.
If some genius in some NFL front office wants to experiment with Pryor at wide receiver, then more power to him. But I'm not taking a kid who is on track to be the Buckeyes' most productive offensive player ever and moving him from a position where he is the focal point of the offense and every play runs through him to a position where he might get six or eight touches a game.
