Oh, and I don't like a lot of death metal and this shit my brother in law listens too. But, some of those guitar guys are EXTREMELY good. Some of them are, of course, no talent hacks.
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Turntables are considered musical instruments. I have seen many rap artists use turntables.
You're a fucking moron, plain and simple.
Turntables were first used as musical instruments in the 1940's and 1950's by musique concrète and other experimental composers, such as John Cage and Pierre Schaeffer, who used them in a manner similar to digital sampling. (Even earlier, Edgard Varese experimented with turntables in 1930, though he never produced any works using them.) Modern experimental turntablists include Christian Marclay, Otomo Yoshihide, Philip Jeck and Janek Schaefer.
Hip hop DJ's developed independently of the earlier techniques, and the sounds produced by these experimental composers are quite different from later hip hop turntablism.
Like many other musical instrumentalists, turntablists compete to see who can develop the fastest, most innovative and most creative approaches to their instrument. The selection of a champion comes from the culmination of battles between turntablists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turntablism
Don't call people morons if you don't research it a little.
turn·ta·ble ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(tûrntbl)
n.
1.
a. The circular horizontal rotating platform of a phonograph on which the record is placed.
b. A phonograph exclusive of amplifying circuitry and speakers.
2. A circular horizontal rotating platform equipped with a railway track, used for turning locomotives, as in a roundhouse.
3. A rotating platform or disk, such as a lazy Susan.
gui·tar ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(g-tär)
n.
A musical instrument having a large flat-backed sound box, a long fretted neck, and usually six strings, played by strumming or plucking.
drum ** (*P*)**Pronunciation Key**(drm)
n.
1.
a. A percussion instrument consisting of a hollow cylinder or hemisphere with a membrane stretched tightly over one or both ends, played by beating with the hands or sticks.
b. A sound produced by this instrument.
Ah yes, I can see now that we are on the same page to some extent. What I think can't be done is a comparison of "talent" (or what is perceived as talent) between genres of music. I am by no means saying someone working a drum machine is as talented as a skilled drummer, that's just not right at all. Also, what constitutes what is "important" for rap music can not possibly be what is "important" for rock, or jazz, or country for that matter. You can draw parallels, but that's about it.
Turntables are considered musical instruments. I have seen many rap artists use turntables.