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Some BCS facts for your SEC friends

buckeyesin07;1047967; said:
The way I see it, SEC fans are like that kid we all knew in elementary school that had like 12 favorite teams, so that at any given time, he could always brag that one of his teams was winning. The average Auburn fan, for example, realizes that Auburn has only been to one BCS bowl. Therefore, he becomes an SEC fan so that he can still puff out his chest if the SEC representative(s) to the BCS win their games.

That's one theory. The other theory is that by promoting the SEC as the toughest conference, the typical SEC fan has an excuse for why his team didn't, once again, make it to the NC game and has 5 losses, namely because his team plays in the toughest conference. If the SEC does well, the SEC fan thinks he can make the ridiculous claim that even though his team has 5 conference losses, that team would go undefeated in what he perceives to be one of the lesser conferences.

[SIZE=-1]I'm with all you tOSU fans living in southern states that have to put up with the SEC crap day in and day out. I can't listen to a single sports talk show in town without being totally pissed off. Just in time for the NC game, everyone in town is jumping on the LSU bandwagon. Not to mention that not a single day goes by when the argument that the SEC is better than everyone else comes up in my office but more so this time of year.

Last year I went to a local bar here in Knoxville for the NC game and rather than hearing chants for Florida by the Florida fans (which I would have been fine with) there were chants for SEC in the bar (obviously a lot of UT fans). This is a team, (UT) that had just lost to Penn State in their bowl game mind you, who's biggest rivalry is supposed to include Florida. So yeah, [/SIZE]buckeyesin07, your theories definitely make sense.[SIZE=-1]

I know for a fact that UT fans are still bitter about the '97 heisman. They can't get over Peyton Manning being denied "what was rightfully his heisman trophy" because of a Big10 bias.[/SIZE]
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1048250; said:
...It's was in the 20s here in Tallahassee this morning. The Buckeyes are probably feeling right at home in NOLA, where weather.com shows the current temp as 37 degrees F.

It's supposed to be back into the 70s by the weekend though.

Nutriaitch;1048258; said:
26 degrees when I woke up this morning. I hate this shit.

Weather on game day should be warmer though in the 60's if I remember right.
Pussies
 
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TJnTN;1048286; said:
[SIZE=-1]Last year I went to a local bar here in Knoxville for the NC game and rather than hearing chants for Florida by the Florida fans (which I would have been fine with) there were chants for SEC in the bar (obviously a lot of UT fans). This is a team, (UT) that had just lost to Penn State in their bowl game mind you, who's biggest rivalry is supposed to include Florida. So yeah, [/SIZE]buckeyesin07, your theories definitely make sense.
Great deduction there TJ. UT is not Florida's biggest rival (Georgia is). Florida is not UT's bigest rival (Bama is). So yeah... :tongue2:
 
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Everyone is everyones biggest rival in the SEC. That's what makes it such a tough conference. You try playing your biggest rival every flippin' week, and see how you do.

I actually had to explain to a Georgia "fan" that Georgia-Auburn was not "just like Ohio State-Michigan". I had to talk very slowly when telling him that Georgia's biggest rival was Florida, and Auburn's biggest rival was Alabama, and that Georgia-Auburn was, at best, like Ohio State-Penn State. Rival? yes. Greatest rivalry for your program, let alone in all of sports? Not even close...Idiot.
 
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IronBuckI;1048326; said:
Everyone is everyones biggest rival in the SEC. That's what makes it such a tough conference. You try playing your biggest rival every flippin' week, and see how you do.


I think rivalries in the SEC are different than those in the Big Ten. Not bigger or better, just different. Bama Auburn is just as heated and hate-filled as OSU-Michigan, but thanks to Bama's constant cheating (and probation years) and Auburn's irrelevance to anyone not living in Opelika, it doesn't get the same National attention as y'all game.
 
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Gatorubet;1048308; said:
Great deduction there TJ. UT is not Florida's biggest rival (Georgia is). Florida is not UT's bigest rival (Bama is). So yeah... :tongue2:

Maybe not their biggest rival but there is definitely a hatred for Florida here in Knoxville. Maybe more so when you guys had Spurrier but believe me Florida ranks up there with Alabama. More so in recent years. Guess I'm just not used to pulling for a rival. You sure as hell wouldn't have seen me chanting BIG TEN in a bar when scUM beat UF the other day. Truthfully, I was hoping for a 0-0 tie. :wink2:
 
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Nutriaitch;1048343; said:
I think rivalries in the SEC are different than those in the Big Ten. Not bigger or better, just different. Bama Auburn is just as heated and hate-filled as OSU-Michigan, but thanks to Bama's constant cheating (and probation years) and Auburn's irrelevance to anyone not living in Opelika, it doesn't get the same National attention as y'all game.

that "difference" extends to the conferences as a whole too. Im sure sec fans will not agree, but I dont think the SEC is any better than the Big 10, just different. I would even say the same for a conference like the big east, different, not worse. One thing I love about college football.
 
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TJnTN;1048344; said:
Maybe not their biggest rival but there is definitely a hatred for Florida here in Knoxville. Maybe more so when you guys had Spurrier but believe me Florida ranks up there with Alabama. More so in recent years. Guess I'm just not used to pulling for a rival. You sure as hell wouldn't have seen me chanting BIG TEN in a bar when scUM beat UF the other day. Truthfully, I was hoping for a 0-0 tie. :wink2:
What can I say?? If we'd beaten you, folks all over the south would be chanting S-E-C...like I was shouting at the Sugar.

Each Conference is different. Lots of ways to enjoy this stuff and none of them the only way. I think, though, that it would not be unfair to say that every team in the Big Ten does not share the passion of tOSU and Michigan (not the rivalry between the two, but the depth of fan support and craziness in following the team). Almost every SEC school is fanatical about the game, and that, IMO, is what makes us sort of unique. I've been to many games around the country in my five decades, and have not run across any conference that has the overall level of support and depth of rivalries as the SEC. The PAC-10 damn sure does not, nor the Big East of the ACC. The Big 10 is the closest to it, but it seems to be confined more to the Big Two and Penn State, although Iowa and Wisconsin have good fans.
 
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DCBuckeye07;1048360; said:
that "difference" extends to the conferences as a whole too. Im sure sec fans will not agree, but I dont think the SEC is any better than the Big 10, just different.

Exactly. Sometimes the SEC way works (BCS NC game last year), sometimes the Big Ten method is better (Um/UF). What I love about college football, is that the debate never ends. Regardless of the outcome Monday night, this discussion will still be going on.
 
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Gatorubet;1048361; said:
What can I say?? If we'd beaten you, folks all over the south would be chanting S-E-C...like I was shouting at the Sugar.

Each Conference is different. Lots of ways to enjoy this stuff and none of them the only way. I think, though, that it would not be unfair to say that every team in the Big Ten does not share the passion of tOSU and Michigan (not the rivalry between the two, but the depth of fan support and craziness in following the team). Almost every SEC school is fanatical about the game, and that, IMO, is what makes us sort of unique. I've been to many games around the country in my five decades, and have not run across any conference that has the overall level of support and depth of rivalries as the SEC. The PAC-10 damn sure does not, nor the Big East of the ACC. The Big 10 is the closest to it, but it seems to be confined more to the Big Two and Penn State, although Iowa and Wisconsin have good fans.

Ok so that makes sense to me but it's still interesting. It makes me think it's rooted in something much deeper. I would venture to say that some of it indeed stems from this "battle" between North and South and no I'm not talking about the Civil War. I think a lot of it too comes from a perception SEC fans have that the media is bias towards Big10 teams and in particular OSU and scUM........not arguing that this is true or untrue. Just opening up that for some discussion. I can hear it in the voices of Tennessee fans I talk to and I'm guessing it's the perception across the SEC.
 
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I have been in Atlanta since 1974, and I will say, in the last 20 years, that it seems like every Saturday there is a big SEC game. The Big Ten has a few big Saturdays, but nothing like it is down here. Don't get me wrong though, I bleed scarlet and grey (born in Mansfield, family still in Wooster and Ashland), but it seems there are more big match-ups in the SEc then in the Big Ten, IMHO.
 
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