Some BCS facts for your SEC friends

[Wingate1217]

I believe the way to examine home field advantage is to look at the differential from the home win-loss record versus the away or neutral field win-loss record. Given that I examined the overall record of ten teams since 2000. I also looked at home, away and the differential for each. Here are the numbers. Includes this year's bowl games....

Overall record(%) Home(%) Away(%)
1) Virginia Tech 79-25 (75.96) 46-9 (83.64) 33-16 (67.35)
2) LSU* 81-22 (78.64) 49-7 (87.5) 29-15 (65.91)
3) Ohio State 81-19 (81.00) 50-6 (89.29) 31-13 (70.45)
4) Florida 74-28 (72.55) 43-8 (84.31) 31-20 (60.78)
5) Penn State 55-42 (55.56) 39-15 (72.22) 16-27 (37.21)
6) Oregon 67-32 (67.68) 38-13 (74.51) 29-19 (60.42)
7) Texas A&M 53-44 (53.54) 35-17 (67.31) 18-27 (40.00)
8) Wisconsin 68-34 (66.67) 42-13 (76.36) 26-21 (55.32)
9) Florida State 69-34 (66.99) 38-11 (77.55) 31-23 (57.41)
10) Auburn 75-27 (75.27) 47-10 (82.46) 28-17 (62.22)

* Includes 3 games in Superdome as Home games (3-0)

Differential #'s

Penn State 35.01
Texas A&M 27.31
Florida 23.53
LSU 21.59
Wisconsin 21.04
Auburn 20.24
Florida St. 20.14
OSU 18.84
VT 16.29
Oregon 14.09

Based on these numbers it appears that PSU and Texas A&M are relatively benign on the road but tigers at home. LSU is no easy place to play and they are 3-0 in the SuperDome, but on the flip side OSU has the best record of all the teams while on the road.

 

[Wingate1217]

You should check out Tennessee. Their home field advantage would be very interesting to look at. I'm more afraid of playing at Tennessee than I am at Florida.

Here are Tennessee #'s since 2000.....

Overall 71-31 (69.61)
Home 39-13 (75.00)
Away 32-18 (64.00)

Differential of 11.00.......

 

[Bill Lucas]

Based on these numbers it appears that PSU and Texas A&M are relatively benign on the road but tigers at home. LSU is no easy place to play and they are 3-0 in the SuperDome, but on the flip side OSU has the best record of all the teams while on the road.

They also have the best home record of any of these teams.

 

[xcrunner]

I believe the way to examine home field advantage is to look at the differential from the home win-loss record versus the away or neutral field win-loss record. Given that I examined the overall record of ten teams since 2000. I also looked at home, away and the differential for each. Here are the numbers. Includes this year's bowl games....

Overall record(%) Home(%) Away(%)
1) Virginia Tech 79-25 (75.96) 46-9 (83.64) 33-16 (67.35)
2) LSU* 81-22 (78.64) 49-7 (87.5) 29-15 (65.91)
3) Ohio State 81-19 (81.00) 50-6 (89.29) 31-13 (70.45)
4) Florida 74-28 (72.55) 43-8 (84.31) 31-20 (60.78)
5) Penn State 55-42 (55.56) 39-15 (72.22) 16-27 (37.21)
6) Oregon 67-32 (67.68) 38-13 (74.51) 29-19 (60.42)
7) Texas A&M 53-44 (53.54) 35-17 (67.31) 18-27 (40.00)
8) Wisconsin 68-34 (66.67) 42-13 (76.36) 26-21 (55.32)
9) Florida State 69-34 (66.99) 38-11 (77.55) 31-23 (57.41)
10) Auburn 75-27 (75.27) 47-10 (82.46) 28-17 (62.22)

* Includes 3 games in Superdome as Home games (3-0)

Differential #'s

Penn State 35.01
Texas A&M 27.31
Florida 23.53
LSU 21.59
Wisconsin 21.04
Auburn 20.24
Florida St. 20.14
OSU 18.84
VT 16.29
Oregon 14.09

Based on these numbers it appears that PSU and Texas A&M are relatively benign on the road but tigers at home. LSU is no easy place to play and they are 3-0 in the SuperDome, but on the flip side OSU has the best record of all the teams while on the road.

Great work! Just one question: How did you pick the teams?

 

[Wingate1217]

Great work! Just one question: How did you pick the teams?

Based on a rivals article regarding the ten toughest places to play referenced early in the thread.....

 

[xcrunner]

Based on a rivals article regarding the ten toughest places to play referenced early in the thread.....

Haha my bad. Note to self, don't skim threads and then ask stupid questions. Thanks for the work.

 

[JohnLSU]

I believe the way to examine home field advantage is to look at the differential from the home win-loss record versus the away or neutral field win-loss record. Given that I examined the overall record of ten teams since 2000. I also looked at home, away and the differential for each. Here are the numbers. Includes this year's bowl games....

Overall record(%) Home(%) Away(%)
1) Virginia Tech 79-25 (75.96) 46-9 (83.64) 33-16 (67.35)
2) LSU* 81-22 (78.64) 49-7 (87.5) 29-15 (65.91)
3) Ohio State 81-19 (81.00) 50-6 (89.29) 31-13 (70.45)
4) Florida 74-28 (72.55) 43-8 (84.31) 31-20 (60.78)
5) Penn State 55-42 (55.56) 39-15 (72.22) 16-27 (37.21)
6) Oregon 67-32 (67.68) 38-13 (74.51) 29-19 (60.42)
7) Texas A&M 53-44 (53.54) 35-17 (67.31) 18-27 (40.00)
8) Wisconsin 68-34 (66.67) 42-13 (76.36) 26-21 (55.32)
9) Florida State 69-34 (66.99) 38-11 (77.55) 31-23 (57.41)
10) Auburn 75-27 (75.27) 47-10 (82.46) 28-17 (62.22)

* Includes 3 games in Superdome as Home games (3-0)

Differential #'s

Penn State 35.01
Texas A&M 27.31
Florida 23.53
LSU 21.59
Wisconsin 21.04
Auburn 20.24
Florida St. 20.14
OSU 18.84
VT 16.29
Oregon 14.09

Based on these numbers it appears that PSU and Texas A&M are relatively benign on the road but tigers at home. LSU is no easy place to play and they are 3-0 in the SuperDome, but on the flip side OSU has the best record of all the teams while on the road.

The only thing that those stats, by themselves, prove to me is that home field advantage is, in fact, real (every team has a better winning percentage at home than on the road).

As for including games in the Superdome as LSU home games, I wouldn't go that far. We do play Tulane there, and that is their home stadium. The 3 Superdome games you are talking about are the 3 Sugar Bowls we've gone to since 2000 (we played ND, Oklahoma, and Illinois). But Sugar Bowls aren't home games like Tiger Stadium. In Tiger Stadium, we only give a very tiny segment to opposing fans, maybe 1/20 of the seats. In the Superdome, our opponents take at very least 1/4 of the seats.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Even newspapers in Big Ten territory use Tiger Stadium and the Swamp as examples of stadiums legendary for their crowd noise. No newspaper in SEC territory would use Ohio Stadium as an example of a stadium legendary for crowd noise.

Maybe because SEC teams won't come up to The Shoe to play...

 

[Pheasant]

The only thing that those stats, by themselves, prove to me is that home field advantage is, in fact, real (every team has a better winning percentage at home than on the road).

As for including games in the Superdome as LSU home games, I wouldn't go that far. We do play Tulane there, and that is their home stadium. The 3 Superdome games you are talking about are the 3 Sugar Bowls we've gone to since 2000 (we played ND, Oklahoma, and Illinois). But Sugar Bowls aren't home games like Tiger Stadium. In Tiger Stadium, we only give a very tiny segment to opposing fans, maybe 1/20 of the seats. In the Superdome, our opponents take at very least 1/4 of the seats.

If your argument is that games in the superdome should be counted as away games for LSU I think you'll need a better argument than only having 75% of the crowd in your favor.

 

[Wingate1217]

The only thing that those stats, by themselves, prove to me is that home field advantage is, in fact, real (every team has a better winning percentage at home than on the road).

As for including games in the Superdome as LSU home games, I wouldn't go that far. We do play Tulane there, and that is their home stadium. The 3 Superdome games you are talking about are the 3 Sugar Bowls we've gone to since 2000 (we played ND, Oklahoma, and Illinois). But Sugar Bowls aren't home games like Tiger Stadium. In Tiger Stadium, we only give a very tiny segment to opposing fans, maybe 1/20 of the seats. In the Superdome, our opponents take at very least 1/4 of the seats.

By including the Superdome games only helped LSU's differential score. You can spin it any way want but if Ohio State was playing Nebraska in Cleveland, OSU would have a definite home field advantage. It will not equate to the advantage one would have at the 'shoe or in Tiger Stadium but it is an advantage nevertheless.
Does every team have a home field advantage? Mostly likely yes, but the numbers don't lie as some teams play a heck alot better at home. Is that due to the atmosphere? Or is it due to the home team playing more cupcakes at home. The answer to both questions is yes.
The numbers do show that if you are playing a team like Penn State you are better off playing them on the road or a neutral field where they had a record below .500. They win only 37% of the time. Penn State's odds of winning almost double if they play at home.

It would be interesting to complete this analysis on all the D-1 teams and you would get a much clearer image of what home field advantage means.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

By including the Superdome games only helped LSU's differential score. You can spin it any way want but if Ohio State was playing Nebraska in Cleveland, OSU would have a definite home field advantage. It will not equate to the advantage one would have at the 'shoe or in Tiger Stadium but it is an advantage nevertheless.

Change "Cleveland" to "Cincinnati" and you have a better anology. The distance between Columbus and Cincinnati is closer to the distance between Baton Rouge and NOLA than is the distance between Columbus and Cleveland.

 

[Pheasant]

Change "Cleveland" to "Cincinnati" and you have a better anology. The distance between Columbus and Cincinnati is closer to the distance between Baton Rouge and NOLA than is the distance between Columbus and Cleveland.

I think Dayton is closest to the distance (albeit without the NFL stadium), but it doesn't matter. We've made 3 or 4 posts to counter an LSU fan saying the superdome isn't a home game for LSU. Joke's on us. :tongue2:

 

[Wingate1217]

Change "Cleveland" to "Cincinnati" and you have a better anology. The distance between Columbus and Cincinnati is closer to the distance between Baton Rouge and NOLA than is the distance between Columbus and Cleveland.

Yeah, in distance but I would like to think our reach (OSU's) permeates the whole state of Ohio. Neither Cinci (101 miles)or Cleveland (142 miles) is as close as New Orleans to Baton Rouge (81 miles).

 

[Nutriaitch]

* Includes 3 games in Superdome as Home games (3-0)

Quick question. Our game vs. Tulane this year (in the Superdome), did that go as an away game or neutral or home? (just curious)


Also, in '05 vs ASU, even though we played them at their place, with their fans, it is "officially" listed as a home game. Can we get extra credit for that one?

 

[JohnLSU]

It would be interesting to complete this analysis on all the D-1 teams and you would get a much clearer image of what home field advantage means.

I was thinking the same thing.