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SimPLLLLLLLe Jim "6-13" Harbaugh (B1G Suspenders McKhakiPants, Cheater Cheater Booger Eater)

I get a huge laugh every time I hear some one come up with that old saw, "They get to go to college and all they have to do is play football."

Playing a college level sport is the equivilant to having a full time job at least 2/3rds of the year. In season it's like having a 60 hour work week job.

Take a look sometime at what the "invisible" athletes, soccer, track, swimming, volleyball go through, then add the heat of being in an income producing sport.

It's enough to make a sports junkie like me question why I give any support to anything other than professional sports.

"Athletic Scholarship" is a crock. For all but a few very talented AND very bright students it's an invitation to a job that will pay your way through the core curricullum and maybe some glory along the way.
 
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Must read....

"When did Mike Hart become the final arbiter in determining an ex-player's qualifications for the "Michigan man" club? What's his career record against Ohio State?" What a great quote.

EDIT: I missed that someone posted this just a few ahead of me. Oh well, if you haven't read it, it's worth it.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;901142; said:
Drew Sharp gets it exactly right. It's not that they funnel dumb players into easy majors. We do the same g-d thing and always have. As does Wisconsin and UCLA and USC and so on. It's the huge percentage of athletes to whom they're doing it combined with the blatant hypocrisy of constantly preaching that they set a higher standard when, in fact, they may be one of the worst examples.

I would, however, like to know how we compare in this regard. I hope that we're better, but since the player bios on the official site don't list the players' majors, it's rather hard to tell. Hopefully some enterprising reporter won't sit down with our press guide and find out that we're actually no better.

Here's some info. Ohio State football and majors - Cleveland Sports News ?€“ The Latest Breaking News, Game Recaps and Scores from The Plain Dealer

"There are 59 players who get their own page in the OSU media guide. Of those players, 21 are listed as undecided, with seven of them entering their junior academic years and 14 of them entering their sophomore academic years.
That leaves 38 with declared majors. Here's that breakdown:

7 Family Resource Management
7 Communications
5 Business Administration
4 Business
3 Sport and Leisure Studies
3 Consumer Affairs
2 Finance
2 Human Development and Family Science
1 each African-American Studies; Social and Behavorial Sciences; History; Political Science; Health Science"

Not necessarily rocket science stuff on average, but no excessive concentration in one jock major either."
 
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EastFourteenth;901199; said:
I wonder who's taking Finance. There are some really tough upper level courses in that major. I'd assume they wouldn't be any of our 5 Star athletes.
I think you would agree that it is much more relevant to ask if it is one of the team's primary playing time contributors that takes Finance, rather than leap to their presumptive ranking of ability by Scout or Rivals at the time they were recruited.
Jon Skinner BTW is one player who as I recall takes Finance.
Aside from a redshirt Freshman year he has put in consistent time on the field - and advancing cincibuck's thesis - that means he is putting in impressive time to catch and keep the coaches eye.

Tough thing to do with a demanding major.
 
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EastFourteenth;901199; said:
I wonder who's taking Finance. There are some really tough upper level courses in that major. I'd assume they wouldn't be any of our 5 Star athletes.

Yeah, because we all know that if you're a top athlete you're also a dumbass... :roll1:
 
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MililaniBuckeye;901224; said:
Yeah, because we all know that if you're a top athlete you're also a dumbass... :roll1:

I didn't say that. But if you're a top notch athlete and have high hopes of making it to the NFL, you're probably not as worried about getting a degree in Molecular Genetics, as say a fringe player who knows he has to plan for the future.
 
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"BGS [Bachelor of General Studies] can be more demanding in some ways," Conway-Perrin wrote in an e-mail asking for an explanation of the degree. "For example, students are required to take at least 60 credits of upper-level courses (courses numbered 300 and above, which are generally more intensive courses aimed at juniors and seniors). Since students need 120 credits to graduate, that means that at least half of a BGS student's coursework is upper-level.
wow. juniors and seniors having to take junior and senior level courses. it's amazing how hard those poor bastards really have it... :roll1:
 
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ORD_Buckeye;899877; said:
For a time in the early 80s, their entrance music was "White Punks on Dope."
one time for their halftime show, they did a 'tribute to abortion' and did hangar formation. they did a tribute to Jane Mansfield and played "i lost my head." at Cal one year they formed a pot leaf, then '420.' at Oregon State one year they formed a giant cocknballs, then spelled out 'uncut.'

then they got banned from all other Pac Ten Stadiums.

oh... i guess i'm OT. Mike Hart is punk bitch. Jim Harbaugh is a scumbag. i hope LLLLLoyd never retires.
 
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lv - I thought the Jayne Mansfield song was "Another Saturday Night and I ain't got Nobody."

Stanford band also irked ND in the early 90's resulting in them being banned in South Bend - their drum major dressed as nun, conducting the band with a crucifix.

Payback came a few years later when the band again played the Irish, who were greeted with a show titled "These Irish, Why Must They Fight?"

Stanford's band is rightly touted as one of the most irreverent in college athletics - they've earned that rep.
 
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EastFourteenth;901235; said:
I didn't say that. But if you're a top notch athlete and have high hopes of making it to the NFL, you're probably not as worried about getting a degree in Molecular Genetics, as say a fringe player who knows he has to plan for the future.

But you clearly hinted at it when you said, "I wonder who's taking Finance. There are some really tough upper level courses in that major. I'd assume they wouldn't be any of our 5 Star athletes." Big difference between Finance and Molecular Genetics. Besides, not all of the 5-star athletes even make it to the NFL (D'Andrea, etc.)...
 
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Emmanuel "Webster" Lewis signing with the scUM football team.
 
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