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SimPLLLLLLLe Jim "6-13" Harbaugh (B1G Suspenders McKhakiPants, Cheater Cheater Booger Eater)

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buckeyemania11 said:
The "WAIT UNTIL HARBAUGH GETS ALL OF HIS OWN PLAYERS ON THE FIELD " logic they still live by is pretty hiarious. It might hold some merrit if he were actually out recruiting Meyer, but he is not.
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It's dumb logic. Hoke, for all of his other faults, recruited pretty well. And they run similar systems, so it's not like he has to overhaul the roster. I think what we've seen the past two years is what you're gonna get with Harbrau...they'll likely typically be in the running for the B1G, and most years probably win 9-11 games. But as long as Urban is around, tOSU will remain a huge roadblock.

Bottom line, Harbrau is a very good coach. Much better than they've had in a long time, but he's not some coaching god. He's nowhere near Urban or Saban. He built this mystique because he turned Stanford around on the back of a generational talent at Qb; however, David Shaw has kept that program at the same level with about the same talent. Plus, I watched this guy as a Niners fan for four years...he has serious flaws, not the least of which is puckering up in big games and pressure situations. Saturday being a prime example of that.
 
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NFBuck said:
It's dumb logic. Hoke, for all of his other faults, recruited pretty well. And they run similar systems, so it's not like he has to overhaul the roster. I think what we've seen the past two years is what you're gonna get with Harbrau...they'll likely typically be in the running for the B1G, and most years probably win 9-11 games. But as long as Urban is around, tOSU will remain a huge roadblock.

Bottom line, Harbrau is a very good coach. Much better than they've had in a long time, but he's not some coaching god. He's nowhere near Urban or Saban. He built this mystique because he turned Stanford around on the back of a generational talent at Qb; however, David Shaw has kept that program at the same level with about the same talent. Plus, I watched this guy as a Niners fan for four years...he has serious flaws, not the least of which is puckering up in big games and pressure situations. Saturday being a prime example of that.
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Lloyd Carr in the 2000s is probably a good in the ballpark comparison for him at this point. He will bring in some good players and win 9 or more games in most seasons but beating Ohio State and winning the B1G is a uphill battle.

Hes definitely not on the same level as Saban or Meyer like some scUMers like to claim.

Hes never even won a conference championship at the FBS level. Yea he had one year where he went 12-1 at Stanford. That 1 loss was a beatdown by Oregon that lost the PAC and a shot at a national title though. (To further example your point about puckering in pressure situations.)
 
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youra6 said:
Fuck I hope Jimbaugh gets blown out at whatever bowl game they put them in.

Delusional fans still think they have a shot at the CFP. They are literally PSU fans.
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Looks likey that theyll play FSU in the Orange Bowl (seeing that Clemson wins the ACC title game) which theyd probably likey win. Zero confidence in the Noles.
 
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Kind of wonder if Harbaugh is going to be SCUM's version of Cooper. A blowout loss last year when the talent gap honestly wasn't THAT large and watching a talented, veteran team snatch defeat from the jaws of victory from the youngest team in the country aren't things you want to see as a SCUM fan.
 
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youra6 said:
Fuck I hope Jimbaugh gets blown out at whatever bowl game they put them in.

Delusional fans still think they have a shot at the CFP. They are literally PSU fans.
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I'd rather see him lose close ones. He seems better able to deal psychologically with getting blown out. But in his mind, he's never legitimately lost a close game. It's always stolen from him. That's been his act all the way back to Stanford, and he was notorious for it at SF. The more close losses, the more that internal pressure steamer starts to boil, and the more he'll start to clench up in tight games.
 
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Systems_id said:
Kind of wonder if Harbaugh is going to be SCUM's version of Cooper. A blowout loss last year when the talent gap honestly wasn't THAT large and watching a talented, veteran team snatched defeat from the jaws of victory from the youngest team in the country aren't things you want to see as a SCUM fan.
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He really was Cooperesque the last twenty minutes of the game. Not the blowup and throwing his cards, but they way you just saw the pressure physically get to him and the team tighten up as a result.
 
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youra6 said:
Fuck I hope Jimbaugh gets blown out at whatever bowl game they put them in.

Delusional fans still think they have a shot at the CFP. They are literally PSU fans.
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buckeyemania11 said:
Looks likey that theyll play FSU in the Orange Bowl (seeing that Clemson wins the ACC title game) which theyd probably likey win. Zero confidence in the Noles.
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Then what meaning would Ohio State's heroic comeback have if the team they beat gets humiliated by a half-assed ACC team? And if Penn State or Bucky get beat in their bowl games we'll be right back to, "Everybody in the SEC except Alabama was rebuilding in 2016. The bowls prove the SEC is still the strongest conference."
 
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cincibuck said:
Then what meaning would Ohio State's heroic comeback have if the team they beat gets humiliated by a half-assed ACC team? And if Penn State or Bucky get beat in their bowl games we'll be right back to, "Everybody in the SEC except Alabama was rebuilding in 2016. The bowls prove the SEC is still the strongest conference."
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With how the TSUN fans acted after losing, I don't care if TSUN losing changes the perception of the B1G at all. If we take care of business and win out next game(s), we alone can carry the conference on our shoulders.
 
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Then what meaning would Ohio State's heroic comeback have if the team they beat gets humiliated by a half-assed ACC team? And if Penn State or Bucky get beat in their bowl games we'll be right back to, "Everybody in the SEC except Alabama was rebuilding in 2016. The bowls prove the SEC is still the strongest conference."
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:lol:

That would be laughable, everyone in the SEC besides Alabama is pretty much average or trash this year no matter how you try to spin it

LSU - Preseason #5 - Finish 7-4
Tennessee - Preseason #9 - Finish 8-4
Ole Miss - Preseason #11 - Finish 5-7
Georgia - Preseason #18 - Finish 7-5
Florida - Preseason #25 - Finish 8-3 in that weak ass divison

Teams who were "receiving votes" in the preseason

Texas A&M - 8-4
Auburn - 8-4
Arkansas - 7-5

Of the teams ranked in the preseason top 25, only Florida didn't completely flop on their expectations

You could say Auburn/Arkansas/Texas A&M finished with about what could have been expected, maybe a little less but all average teams at best.

LSU/Tennessee/Ole Miss completely flopped

Georgia was outside of the top 15 so their flop wasnt "as bad" as those 3

Missouri/South Carolina/Miss State are all not good, Vanderbilt is maybe a step above those 3 but nothing spectacular either. Kentucky had a decent season for them but still nothing spectacular there.

Basically a "good" performance in bowl season wouldn't be enough to erase how average-mediocre the whole conference besides Bama was this year. Winning 1 game for the teams that flopped doesn't erase their failed seasons.
 
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