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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL)

Incentive to transfer? There’s still a finite amount of scholarships.

Of course players on teams with better fanbases and/or geographical location will have more opportunities, but will that same MAC player be able to go to a P5 school and replicate the success? How often has that happened?

I agree, in the past it hasn't happened that often; but the rules (i.e. NIL and transfer) have just dramatically changed. It will be a lot easier to transfer now. If they are a legitimate big time prospect they should be able to replicate their success. If they are just the best player on a sub par team, probably not. Realistically, I can see it happening much more in basketball than football.
 
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Great local article, it will really be interesting to see how all the athletes in the other (than football and basketball) sports are able to "cash in" with NIL.

Opportunities await Olympic sport athletes with proposed NCAA name, image and likeness rules



Beneath a Pulp Fiction poster hanging on a wall in a dormitory suite, Mitchell Pehlke sits at his laptop and uploads a series of videos to his YouTube channel.

The edited clips show Pehlke, a sophomore on the Ohio State men’s lacrosse team, in everyday life, buzzing between dining hall meals, campus strolls, workouts and bantering with roommates.

He began vlogging in high school when he recorded a video of himself and a friend giving each other haircuts to the entertainment of their classmates.

“I just remember that next day going to school and seeing people’s faces, and them watching it and just being like, 'Wow, that made me laugh or that made my day,’” Pehlke said. “That feeling is something I chase every single time I make a video.”

Driven by the response, Pehlke kept posting as his channel grew in popularity, adding more than 14,000 subscribers and leaving him with one of the largest online followings for any athlete on the 36 varsity sports teams at Ohio State.

Though longstanding NCAA rules have prevented Pehlke from monetizing his platform, it might turn into a source of income in the near future.

If the Division I Council passes legislation to allow college athletes to profit from the use of their name, image and likeness (NIL) at its meeting next month, Pehlke could be paid to promote products on his channel or TikTok account. He proposed a manscaping razor as one endorsement idea. Branded merchandise could be a possibility as well.



“There’s definitely different ways I can make money in that space,” he said.

Since the NCAA’s board of governors announced its support of NIL rules changes last spring, the dominant conversation has focused on the potential for top football and men’s basketball players to land lucrative endorsement deals by capitalizing on their national name recognition.

Opendorse, a digital marketing platform for athletes, estimated that former Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields could have earned more than $1 million a year, and it’s not difficult to picture future stars leading advertising campaigns.
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Can income from NIL lead to tuition relief?
How far could a few thousand dollars in NIL income go? It could be significant for Olympic sport athletes. Since most are on partial scholarships or are walk-ons, they pay tuition.

Only six sports — football, men’s and women’s basketball, women’s gymnastics, women’s tennis and women’ volleyball — give full rides to all of their scholarship players.

It means there are athletes who leave school in debt like other students.

When Ohio State surveyed athletes who graduated during the 2019-20 academic year, it found they owed an average of $27,900 in student loans.

The significant financial obligations leave Smith to contend that Olympic sport athletes will be the biggest beneficiaries from an extension of NIL rights.

“The impact on them, whether it’s $1,000, or $5,000, or $10,000, is going to be significant,” Smith said. “If you come in as a freshman, and if we can help you figure out your niche, and then you start it in your sophomore year, you got three years to run, to hopefully make X to mitigate your debt.”

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Instead of leveraging their NIL, athletes have been relying on other means to make money. McIntyre estimated about a third of her former softball teammates at Ohio State held jobs in their offseason, working in retail or at frozen yogurt shops, among other areas.

Meghan Kammerdeiner, who was a senior on the Buckeyes’ women’s soccer team this past season, juggled a job at the office of university integrity and compliance and babysitting for families.

She said other players took coaching gigs within their sport, but were still limited. They were unable to sponsor training sessions or advertise 1-on-1 lessons, self-promotion that could have brought in more money to assist with tuition payments or living expenses.

“By opening up name, image and likeness to the non-revenue generating sports and student-athletes, you’re going to give them an opportunity to graduate with a little less debt or no debt at all and find an interesting and natural way for them to get a few extra dollars in their pocket,” said former Ohio State wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez, now a second-term Republican congressman from Ohio’s 16th congressional district. “For the overwhelming majority, they’re just poor college kids. They don’t have any money.”

Gonzalez, who last month reintroduced a bipartisan bill to allow college athletes to receive compensation for the use of their NIL, acknowledged they also balance tuition obligations with significant time demands from their sport.

In recent surveys conducted by the NCAA, athletes in Division I have reported participating in athletic activities for at least 30 hours a week.

By offering a potential avenue to reduce student debt, new NIL rules could also expand the pool of athletes who potentially enroll at schools.

Over nearly a decade as Ohio State’s field hockey coach in the late 1980s and early 1990s, Karen Weaver remembered one or two recruits every year turning down offers from her program to enroll elsewhere, citing financial considerations.

The prospective players were from outside Ohio and did not qualify for in-state tuition.

“I lost some really good kids because of out-of-state tuition,” said Weaver, now an adjunct assistant professor at Pennsylvania’s graduate school of education. “Their families just didn't have the money.”

In a NIL era 30 years later, Weaver imagines she might have made a different recruiting pitch.
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Entire article: https://npowered.ro/topic/484-sport...-proposed-ncaa-name-image-and-likeness-rules/

Just sayin': Kyle Snider got to keep his "gold medal winning bonuses", but you have to wonder just how much more he could of earned with NIL, etc.

Ohio State's Kyle Snyder due $250,000 bonus after wrestling gold in Rio
August 21, 2016
Ohio State rising junior wrestler Kyle Snyder will be getting a lot more than a gold medal for winning the 97-kilogram freestyle competition at the Rio Olympics on Sunday.

He’ll be getting a $250,000 award that, under NCAA rules, he can keep while continuing to compete for the Buckeyes.
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So, last September, when Snyder won a world championship, he received $50,000. He then returned to Ohio State and won an NCAA championship.

Entire article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...1/kyle-snyder-gold-medal-bonus-ncaa/89078436/
 
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Calling all gamblers, card sharps, scammers, car dealers, jock sniffers, johns, con men, agents, booty bar owners, horny wealthy widows and divorcees: Now hear this! College jocks are looking for cash and SCOTUS says that as long as it's "education bling" they can accept it.

I know there are a lot of NCAA haters here at BP, but the NCAA was born out of the school's inability/lack of interest to establish guidelines to keep the scandals to a minimum. If the NCAA is dissolved, the colleges will have to create something to replace it. The conferences barely get along now. There's no way they can monitor their schools in alignment with the other conferences. A new governing agency will have to be created and let's hope it's in place before the mob moves in.
 
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NCAA waiver to effectively allow name, image and likeness rights for athletes near completion

The waiver would go into effect before numerous states enact new laws beginning July 1


The Division I Board of Directors is likely to grant relief from existing regulations that prohibit athletes from benefiting off their name, image and likeness (NIL), creating a "bridge" to July 1 and beyond, sources tell CBS Sports. On that date, at least six states will have NIL laws going into effect. The NCAA has been scrambling to put its own rules in place to govern athletes in the remaining states.

The move is strategic by the NCAA. The idea is that the association will avoid enacting new rules that might be subject to lawsuits. For the moment, it would temporarily resolve the NCAA's role in legislating what are basically going to be nearly unregulated NIL benefits. Members were increasingly nervous about that prospect after the Supreme Court highly criticized the NCAA while rendering its decision Monday in NCAA vs. Alston.

In essence, the action would be an interim waiver of existing NCAA rules that prohibit NIL benefits.

CBS Sports obtained an internal NCAA document titled "Proposed Alternative Rules Amendment." Though that document -- slightly more than a page long -- is still going through edits, it details the NCAA's strategy.
  • An athlete will not be penalized for profiting from their name, image and likes in states that have NIL regulations.
  • Schools shall post on their websites "written policy governing NIL" prohibiting payments from boosters "in exchange for athletic performance or attendance" at that school.
It is important to note that restrictions against cheating to get a recruit "shall cease to be applicable" if it conflicts with any state's NIL law.
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"There are a bunch of the membership that are just clamoring for guidance," said another council source close to the discussions. "The more guidance that is in there, the more litigation risk."

The NCAA can't afford to get too intrusive after an epic legal defeat. Justice Brett Kavanaugh basically warned the NCAA, writing in a concurring opinion that its "current compensation regime raises serious questions under the antitrust laws."

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...likeness-rights-for-athletes-near-completion/
 
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DI Council recommends DI Board adopt name, image and likeness policy

The Division I Council voted to recommend the Division I Board of Directors adopt an interim policy that would suspend amateurism rules related to name, image and likeness. The board meets Wednesday.

While opening NIL activities to student-athletes, the policy leaves in place the commitment to avoid pay-for-play and improper inducements tied to choosing to attend a particular school. Those prohibitions would remain in effect.

If adopted by the board, the temporary action would remain in place until federal legislation or new NCAA rules are adopted. The policy provides the following guidance to member schools, student-athletes and their families:
  • College athletes can engage in NIL activities that are consistent with the law of the state where the school is located. Colleges and universities are responsible for determining whether those activities are consistent with state law.
  • Student-athletes who attend a school in a state without a NIL law can engage in this type of activity without violating NCAA rules related to name, image and likeness.
  • College athletes can use a professional services provider for NIL activities.
  • Student-athletes should report NIL activities consistent with state law or school and conference requirements to their school.
Entire article: https://www.ncaa.org/about/resource...di-board-adopt-name-image-and-likeness-policy

The NCAA on NIL policy =
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NCAA approves interim name, image and likeness policy removing restrictions for college athletes to earn money

College athletics is on the precipice of a massive change beginning July 1


The NCAA Division I Board of Governors on Wednesday approved an interim policy that allows college athletes to monetize their names, images and likenesses for the first time, a source tells CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd. This "bridge" waiver comes just one day before the NIL floodgates will be opened in 12 states on July 1.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...trictions-for-college-athletes-to-earn-money/

Nothing like waiting until the day before it goes in effect to officially approve it.
 
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NCAA approves interim name, image and likeness policy removing restrictions for college athletes to earn money

College athletics is on the precipice of a massive change beginning July 1


The NCAA Division I Board of Governors on Wednesday approved an interim policy that allows college athletes to monetize their names, images and likenesses for the first time, a source tells CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd. This "bridge" waiver comes just one day before the NIL floodgates will be opened in 12 states on July 1.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...trictions-for-college-athletes-to-earn-money/

Nothing like waiting until the day before it goes in effect to officially approve it.

According to that, Indiana and TSUN are among the ten states that have yet to even introduce bills related to NIL

you hate to see that happen to “storied” programs like ND and TTUN
 
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According to that, Indiana and TSUN are among the ten states that have yet to even introduce bills related to NIL

you hate to see that happen to “storied” programs like ND and TTUN

This was posted on mlive today so I'll ass/u/me it is up to date and accurate....

NCAA to allow college athletes to profit off their name, image, and likeness

Beginning Thursday, student-athletes across all three NCAA divisions can engage in name, image, and likeness (NIL) activities and be compensated monetarily for their efforts. Previously, such behavior would have cost a player his or her college eligibility. The NCAA announced that while schools located in states without NIL laws are free to engage in NIL activities, schools in states with NIL laws must follow those laws. Michigan’s laws don’t go into effect until Dec. 31, 2022.

https://www.mlive.com/sports/2021/0...profit-off-their-name-image-and-likeness.html

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By the way, I’m all for people being able to profit however they like, but the next 2-3 months are about to be so annoying. :lol:

Hundreds of schools, tens of thousands of kids and businesses trying to carve out their lane. We’re going to be flooded with ads, commercials, music etc etc with people trying to get their share. Then we’ll have hundreds of articles sharing the good and the bad. The think-pieces about all of it. And then the schools and states figuring out who can do what and how to jostle for more.

It’s going to be absolutely nuts witnessing a market this large open up.
 
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