Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

[OHSportsFan]

Remember early internet days fan votes?

25 some odd years later and it’s a good idea to tie real money to it.

It’s like Idiocracy. We are getting dumber as a species.

It’s not hard at all to buy followers from what little I know.

Heck, a quick Google search and I could add 100,000 “followers” to my social media page for around $500. I do that 50 times and now I’m Livvy Dunne (sorry fellas, no leotards here).

I’m sure top brands are running metrics analysis and bot-checkers to verify before they hand over sponsored dollars. I have my doubts anyone at the NCAA is prepared for these things.

And I highly doubt they are ready to take on the craziest bunch of people in the world - college football fans/boosters - who will do anything to test the limit and push boundaries.

 

[Jaxbuck]

It’s not hard at all to buy followers from what little I know.

Heck, a quick Google search and I could add 100,000 “followers” to my social media page for around $500. I do that 50 times and now I’m Livvy Dunne (sorry fellas, no leotards here).

I’m sure top brands are running metrics analysis and bot-checkers to verify before they hand over sponsored dollars. I have my doubts anyone at the NCAA is prepared for these things.

And I highly doubt they are ready to take on the craziest bunch of people in the world - college football fans/boosters - who will do anything to test the limit and push boundaries.

The thing they are most unprepared for is the fact that there is enough money involved to make it a problem worth solving for lawyers who want defend their clients when said client has their ability to earn impeded by this Sports Commission (or any other entity their client didn't get a chance to negotiate with).

Getting to watch anyone try to manage the chaos of this social media bit will be a nice opening act.

 

[Zurp]

Remember early internet days fan votes?

25 some odd years later and it’s a good idea to tie real money to it.

It’s like Idiocracy. We are getting dumber as a species.

I miss all the threads on Penn State forums spouting the outrage that Joe Paterno might not be voted to be "God" on some internet vote.
"Oh no!!! Abraham Lincoln is currently leading Joe Paterno by 2.6% of all votes. C'mon, Cultists, do your duty to Joe Paterno and go vote!!!"

 

[dragurd]

The thing they are most unprepared for is the fact that there is enough money involved to make it a problem worth solving for lawyers who want defend their clients when said client has their ability to earn impeded by this Sports Commission (or any other entity their client didn't get a chance to negotiate with).

Getting to watch anyone try to manage the chaos of this social media bit will be a nice opening act.

Welp not for the same reason but as Jax expected lawyers already challenging this.

Female athletes appeal landmark NCAA settlement, saying it violates federal antidiscrimination law

Eight female athletes have filed an appeal of a landmark NCAA antitrust settlement. They argue that women would not receive their fair share of $2.7 billion in back pay for athletes who were barred from making money off their name, image and likeness.

apnews.com

 

[Jaxbuck]

Welp not for the same reason but as Jax expected lawyers already challenging this.

Female athletes appeal landmark NCAA settlement, saying it violates federal antidiscrimination law

Eight female athletes have filed an appeal of a landmark NCAA antitrust settlement. They argue that women would not receive their fair share of $2.7 billion in back pay for athletes who were barred from making money off their name, image and likeness.

apnews.com

It doesn't take a tremendous amount of insight to see this coming.

They have two basic ways to run this:
1) An employer/employee model that collectively bargains a deal together OR
2) A totally unregulated marketplace for talent (and by unregulated I mean the schools/teams aren't going to be able to collude to enforce salary caps etc)

The fact that an early horse out of the gate is going down the underrepresented female athlete track tell you that Title IX will be an insurmountable obstacle to making the Universities the "employer" model that works.

I continue to bang the same drum because it's just so plainly obvious. The sports teams need to be separate legal entities. There is your employer.
Susie soccer player can't sue anybody for shit if Columbus Sports Inc DBA Ohio State Buckeyes Football pays one of their employees more than she makes from someone else.

 

[zbuck]

It doesn't take a tremendous amount of insight to see this coming.

They have two basic ways to run this:
1) An employer/employee model that collectively bargains a deal together OR
2) A totally unregulated marketplace for talent (and by unregulated I mean the schools/teams aren't going to be able to collude to enforce salary caps etc)

The fact that an early horse out of the gate is going down the underrepresented female athlete track tell you that Title IX will be an insurmountable obstacle to making the Universities the "employer" model that works.

I continue to bang the same drum because it's just so plainly obvious. The sports teams need to be separate legal entities. There is your employer.
Susie soccer player can't sue anybody for shit if Columbus Sports Inc DBA Ohio State Buckeyes Football pays one of their employees more than she makes from someone else.

Just think of all the cash that they can make selling a non-controlling share of the team. Hey Mr. RichGuy, how would you like to be a part owner of the Buckeyes ....

 

[dragurd]

It doesn't take a tremendous amount of insight to see this coming.

They have two basic ways to run this:
1) An employer/employee model that collectively bargains a deal together OR
2) A totally unregulated marketplace for talent (and by unregulated I mean the schools/teams aren't going to be able to collude to enforce salary caps etc)

The fact that an early horse out of the gate is going down the underrepresented female athlete track tell you that Title IX will be an insurmountable obstacle to making the Universities the "employer" model that works.

I continue to bang the same drum because it's just so plainly obvious. The sports teams need to be separate legal entities. There is your employer.
Susie soccer player can't sue anybody for shit if Columbus Sports Inc DBA Ohio State Buckeyes Football pays one of their employees more than she makes from someone else.

Well there is a 3. Congress get involved and makes a rule but good fucking luck there. They can't even pass a budget properly half of the time

 

[AKAK]

It’s not hard at all to buy followers from what little I know.

Heck, a quick Google search and I could add 100,000 “followers” to my social media page for around $500. I do that 50 times and now I’m Livvy Dunne (sorry fellas, no leotards here).

I’m sure top brands are running metrics analysis and bot-checkers to verify before they hand over sponsored dollars. I have my doubts anyone at the NCAA is prepared for these things.

And I highly doubt they are ready to take on the craziest bunch of people in the world - college football fans/boosters - who will do anything to test the limit and push boundaries.

I think if we get Lily Phillips involved we can get a lot more followers than that.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Well there is a 3. Congress get involved and makes a rule but good fucking luck there. They can't even pass a budget properly half of the time

Yeah I left off the possibility of an alien invasion too

 

[pnuts34]

 

[pnuts34]

Well there is a 3. Congress get involved and makes a rule but good fucking luck there. They can't even pass a budget properly half of the time

Congress would never tell an adult how much they can earn. NCAA already tried to get SCOTUS to intervene and they told them to kick rocks. Government entities do not want to get involved in telling Americans how much they can and cannot make. Especially when it comes to an industry like collegiate sports, and I'm sure a number have donated to NILs or provided booster payments

 

[Jaxbuck]

I’m not going on social media to read all that. Who pays Deloitte to be this deal death board?

Is that in their FAQ?