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SF LaQuinton Ross (Memphis Hustle - NBA G-League)

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wigmon;1963954; said:
For one he said McDonald wouldn't play. Now I agree that I don't think the other 4 frosh will all play "major roles", but who of Scott, Williams, Ross and Thompson do you think will not play this year?

Scott seems like the safest bet for PT, but we all know MAtta doesn't like to play frosh, so I'm not sure how much PT he'll get over any returnee.
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We know this? Oden, Conley, Cook, Lighty, Koufas, Buford, Diebler, Mullins, Sullinger, Thomas and Craft all disagree with you in the last few years and I'm sure I've missed a couple.

Now, on to this year. Sullinger, Buford and Craft (29.6) were all 30 minute men. Siebert, Scott and Thomas are going to eat up Lighty and Dieblers minutes (34 minutes a game average). That's going to leave about 20-25 minutes a game for the rest of the team to get.

Are other players going to play? Yes. Are more than one of them going to see major minutes? Highly unlikely. Will we see 3 freshmen not named Shannon Scott get major minutes? Not a snowballs chance in hell.
 
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wigmon;1963954; said:
For one he said McDonald wouldn't play. Now I agree that I don't think the other 4 frosh will all play "major roles", but who of Scott, Williams, Ross and Thompson do you think will not play this year?

Scott seems like the safest bet for PT, but we all know MAtta doesn't like to play frosh, so I'm not sure how much PT he'll get over any returnee.
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We all know Matta doesn't like to play freshmen? That's simply not true.

Thad Matta has played atleast 3 freshmen in his regular rotation every season that he's been here other than the '09-'10 season when there were no freshmen.

Freshmen in the rotation under Matta. (by the way, these frosh played every game of their frosh season).......

'06-'07 - Oden-Cook-Conley-Lighty (Oden was injured for 9 games)
'07-'08 - Koufos-Turner-Deibler.......Lauderdale also played most games
'08-'09 - Buford-Mullens-Crater (Crater was in rotation before quitting)
'09-'10 - No Freshmen
'10-'11 - Sullinger-Craft-Thomas

Why shouldn't we expect that atleast 3 freshmen to play significant roles this season? This incoming class is one of Matta's better ones at OSU.
 
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Bill Lucas;1963973; said:
We know this? Oden, Conley, Cook, Lighty, Koufas, Buford, Diebler, Mullins, Sullinger, Thomas and Craft all disagree with you in the last few years and I'm sure I've missed a couple.

Now, on to this year. Sullinger, Buford and Craft (29.6) were all 30 minute men. Siebert, Scott and Thomas are going to eat up Lighty and Dieblers minutes (34 minutes a game average). That's going to leave about 20-25 minutes a game for the rest of the team to get.

Are other players going to play? Yes. Are more than one of them going to see major minutes? Highly unlikely. Will we see 3 freshmen not named Shannon Scott get major minutes? Not a snowballs chance in hell.
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My comment was a quote of another posters position in this thread. Are you saying you disagree? Me too as I don't understand the argument that Matta won't play frosh, but then assume Scott starts. Matta will play the best guys the most minutes.

Scott is gonna play. How much will depend on how good of a 3 point shooter Craft is. I don't think we are going to play our 2 PG's together much if at least one of them isn't a serious threat from three. Craft shot it OK last year, but not well enough to play much as a 2G and Scott is not a good perimeter shooter right now.
 
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wigmon;1964008; said:
My comment was a quote of another posters position in this thread. Are you saying you disagree? Me too as I don't understand the argument that Matta won't play frosh, but then assume Scott starts. Matta will play the best guys the most minutes.

Scott is gonna play. How much will depend on how good of a 3 point shooter Craft is. I don't think we are going to play our 2 PG's together much if at least one of them isn't a serious threat from three. Craft shot it OK last year, but not well enough to play much as a 2G and Scott is not a good perimeter shooter right now.
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If we were to assume for example that Craft and Scott will play about 30 mins/game each than they would only have to spend 10 of those on the court together. Craft could stay in the court for Scott's 10 bench minutes and Scott could stay on the court for Craft's 10 bench minutes. That's a likely scenario.

I like your point about the 3 point shooting. I think Craft can shoot 38%-42% from deep, that's pretty solid. Craft shot 38% as a freshman. Combine that with 40+% from Buford and Ross from 3 and 35+% from Thomas and we should be solid from downtown without even relying on Scott. It's gonna be a fun season.
 
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Scott's got a great chance to start. He's polished and college ready. At the least, expect him to be in the regular rotation.

Amir ought to see some minutes spelling Sully and he'll be one of our best defensive big men once the season starts. Ought to play a Lauderdale-like role, at least early on.

Sam ought to see some minutes, if for no other reason than because of his defensive prowess and we no longer have Lighty (who played the same position) to lean on. His length and scoring ability help him here too.

LaQuinton could see some time as Thomas did as a scorer, but his lack of focus on defense while he was in high school puts him behind in the minutes category once the season starts. There's a good chance his minutes will increase as the season goes on, as it did with Thomas, but LaQuinton won't be getting the minutes he will expect/want unless he works really hard on his D during the offseason/preseason. IMO, despite his talent on offense, LaQuinton gets the least minutes of these four.
 
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On the scout board there is talk about Ross not being eligible to play and I'll give the knowledge that i have heard:

His high school in Missisippi has changed their grading scale so D's are no longer considered to be passing. Therefore During his time at the school he received D's and was cleared to move on but now due to their changes his grades are considered F's therefore there may be an issue with the possibility of him receiving the hours/credits needed to graduate or become NCAA eligible.

From my knowledge this should be a non issue and he should be grandfathered into eligibility but was a bit of a scare.
 
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southcampus;1972993; said:
It's depressing to know that a kid getting D's in high school is being admitted into a school like Ohio State in the first place. I hope he has since taken a different attitude towards academics and can get things together.
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It didn't say all D's. That's quite a leap of no-faith to get to the kid having a bad attitude.
 
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Pheasant;1972996; said:
It didn't say all D's. That's quite a leap of no-faith to get to the kid having a bad attitude.
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I interpreted your post as indicating there were more than one "D". I simply think most people would have to not care much about classes if they let themselves get a "D" in high school. If that's not the case, then they shouldn't be in college. I just hope he's committed himself to a better attitude towards classes now that college is a reality.
 
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southcampus;1973004; said:
I interpreted your post as indicating there were more than one "D". I simply think most people would have to not care much about classes if they let themselves get a "D" in high school. If that's not the case, then they shouldn't be in college. I just hope he's committed himself to a better attitude towards classes now that college is a reality.
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People who go to school in Mississippi may be subject to different rules than most people. Also, it's possible the kid sucks at Math...or English. Imagine some of the people you've seen post on here trying to pass an English test. There are a lot of reasons for a D, attitude is only one of them.
 
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southcampus;1973004; said:
... most people would have to not care much about classes if they let themselves get a "D" in high school. If that's not the case, then they shouldn't be in college.
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If you take the attitude we should never accept athletes who have received a D in a high school class, resign yourself to life in the second division with IU and Minnesota in football and State Penn and Northworstern in hoop.

Our admission rules for athletes are just fine. Our APR demonstrates that pretty clearly.
 
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MaxBuck;1973011; said:
If you take the attitude we should never accept athletes who have received a D in a high school class, resign yourself to life in the second division with IU and Minnesota in football and State Penn and Northworstern in hoop.

Our admission rules for athletes are just fine. Our APR demonstrates that pretty clearly.
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I'm not far off from that line of thinking. Kids that receive numerous D's shouldn't be in college period. That line of thinking should be universal. D's are struggling. College is not for strugglers and I hate that college is being turned into nothing more than a platform for athletics for some kids.

I hope that isn't the case for Mr. Ross. I'm confident that if he's bright enough to choose a program like ours, he's bright enough to take his academics seriously.
 
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