SF David Lighty (Most Career Buckeye Wins, ASVEL Lyon-Villeurbanne Basket - France)

[BengalsAndBucks]

Actually, I believe Dave may have received his injury early enough in the season to qualify for a conventional redshirt.

If he even checked into the game, even if he didn't end up playing for even a second of game time, then he is not eligible for a regular redshirt. He is eligible for a medical redshirt if he plays less than 30% of the teams games and doesn't play in the second half of the season. So David is eligible for a medical redshirt, but not for a regular redshirt, because he clearly played significant time in the first quarter of the season.

 

[jwinslow]

I've seen 30% tossed around and 20%.

edit: it is 20%.

 

[jwinslow]

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Each student-athlete must utilize all seasons of competition within five (5) years of initially enrolling full-time at a college or university.

Red Shirting

Red shirting is not an official NCAA term, but the term is used when a student-athlete does not participate in any competition during a particular academic year (i.e., neither in the championship nor the non-championship segment of the playing season). A student-athlete may be red-shirted at any point in his/her athletic career. A "medical red shirt" is not an official NCAA term either, but the term is used when a student-athlete is injured after participating in a limited amount of competition during a particular academic year and then qualifies for a Medical Hardship Waiver. More detailed information regarding Medical Hardship Waivers is included below.

Medical Hardship Waiver

If a student-athlete suffers a season-ending injury or illness after competing in a limited amount of competition during a particular academic year, he/she may qualify for a medical hardship waiver which would allow him/her an additional season of competition during the five-year period of eligibility. To qualify for a medical hardship:

(a) the student-athlete's injury or illness must occur in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition or subsequent to the first day of classes in the student-athlete's senior year in high school;

(b) the injury or illness must occur prior to the completion of the first half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport and must result in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season; and

(c) the injury or illness must occur when the student-athlete has not participated in more than two contests/dates of competition or 20% of the institution's scheduled contests/dates of competition in his/her sport (whichever number is greater).

 

[MaxBuck]

I obviously had a brain freeze here. :atom: Thanks for straightening me out.

 

[BuckeyeMafia]

Certainly could've used him tonight, the turnovers didn't help.

 

[briegg]

I've seen 30% tossed around and 20%.

edit: it is 20%.

If the number is 20%, it seems like he would not be eligible for a medical hardship waiver (he played in 7 games out of 29 scheduled - 24% of the season).

edit: If "Scheduled Contests" includes post season, the Bucks need to play 6 extra games to get to 35, (making 7 games 20%)

 

[LitlBuck]

If the number is 20%, it seems like he would not be eligible for a medical hardship waiver (he played in 7 games out of 29 scheduled - 24% of the season).

edit: If "Scheduled Contests" includes post season, the Bucks need to play 6 extra games to get to 35, (making 7 games 20%)

He is eligible for a medical redshirt if you does not play in one more game this season. I do not know what will it falls under in the above category but I have heard and read it too many times for it not to be correct.

 

[BengalsAndBucks]

BB73 has checked the rules and updated them in another post (FB Scholarship Chart thread I think) that say it is 30%. However, at this point that is moot because its past halfway, and he cannot play in a game after the halfway point of the season and still get the medical redshirt.

So what Litl said is correct, if he does not play in one more game this season, he is eligible for a medical redshirt.

 

[DZ83CK]

Terence Dials played 6 games at the beginning of one season (several years ago) and received a medical redshirt. Lighty played in only 7 games this season and the rule has become more permissive since Dials' injury. If Lighty doesn't come back and play again this season, he will certainly be eligible for a medical redshirt, no doubt about that. I think it's in OSU's best interest to bring him back this season if at all possible (because it looks like they need him more this season than they'll need him in 2010-11), but would Lighty really want to sacrifice an entire season for one postseason? I doubt it.

 

[schwab]

....I think it's in OSU's best interest to bring him back this season if at all possible (because it looks like they need him more this season than they'll need him in 2010-11), but would Lighty really want to sacrifice an entire season for one postseason? I doubt it.

Hard to say one way or the other for me on this one, as I agree that the team really could use a shot in the arm later this season. However, since DL won't be 'game-ready' for quite some time, I think it makes the most sense to have him around in 2010. That season we will have a chance to make some serious noise, certainly if DL and Turner decide to stick it out. Turner's recent comments alluded to having DL and the '10 class around, and how scary that would be for opposing teams.

I say let's sit DL, and finish with what we've got.

 

[MaxBuck]

Actually, I believe Dave may have received his injury early enough in the season to qualify for a conventional redshirt.

Hey, guys, with my insight into compliance issues do you think there could be a place for me on the Tennessee football coaching staff?

 

[schwab]

Hey, guys, with my insight into compliance issues do you think there could be a place for me on the Tennessee football coaching staff?

Would you have kept recruiting Tajh Boyd?

There's the deciding difference... the only thing LK has done correctly so far.

 

[BrutusBobcat]

I am not in the redshirt Lighty camp if he can contribute in the Big Ten tourney or the NCAAs, and here's why -- tournaments basically mean that the regular hoops season, while not meaningless, is essentially just a play-in for the dance. Yes, it would have been nice to have him for the season, but does it matter more than a couple of games the W-L? The measure of a season is the post-season, and if he's able to contribute, I say play him. His presence could easily mean the difference between going out in round two or making the Sweet Sixteen or Great Eight. Personally, I'd rather have the guy back for two or three games if those games happen to be in the tournament. Again, that's presuming that he's in game shape and able to contribute at his former level. I just can't see leaving an able bodied, veteran leader who's also an outstanding defender on the bench if/when you're struggling to pull out a win in the tournament.

 

[gracelhink]

I am not in the redshirt Lighty camp if he can contribute in the Big Ten tourney or the NCAAs, and here's why -- tournaments basically mean that the regular hoops season, while not meaningless, is essentially just a play-in for the dance. Yes, it would have been nice to have him for the season, but does it matter more than a couple of games the W-L? The measure of a season is the post-season, and if he's able to contribute, I say play him. His presence could easily mean the difference between going out in round two or making the Sweet Sixteen or Great Eight. Personally, I'd rather have the guy back for two or three games if those games happen to be in the tournament. Again, that's presuming that he's in game shape and able to contribute at his former level. I just can't see leaving an able bodied, veteran leader who's also an outstanding defender on the bench if/when you're struggling to pull out a win in the tournament.

Agreed, if/when Lighty is cleared he is too much of a competitor and leader to sit out the madness.
Watching David the past 3 years, including the u19's cannot believe he would let himelf get soft or out of playing condition.

 

[briegg]

I am not in the redshirt Lighty camp if he can contribute in the Big Ten tourney or the NCAAs, and here's why -- tournaments basically mean that the regular hoops season, while not meaningless, is essentially just a play-in for the dance. Yes, it would have been nice to have him for the season, but does it matter more than a couple of games the W-L? The measure of a season is the post-season, and if he's able to contribute, I say play him. His presence could easily mean the difference between going out in round two or making the Sweet Sixteen or Great Eight. Personally, I'd rather have the guy back for two or three games if those games happen to be in the tournament. Again, that's presuming that he's in game shape and able to contribute at his former level. I just can't see leaving an able bodied, veteran leader who's also an outstanding defender on the bench if/when you're struggling to pull out a win in the tournament.

Completely agree, and he still has all of next year to increase his stock for the pro ranks (be it the NBA or Europe). If this were his sr. year, and he would be ending his career, I might feel differently, but given the situation, if he can contribute in the tourneys, bring him back.:osu: