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SEC (It just means more.. even its losses are wins)

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CFB is broken

CFB is broken - Everyone is gushing over Indiana, and the Hoosiers are #2 in the AP poll. They’ve only beaten one team in the Top 28 of the AP poll if you conti
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Auburn fan is whining because the Big Ten teams haven't played or beaten enough ranked teams.
Here's where we need that diagram showing that SEC teams' rankings are inflated because they play SEC teams that have inflated rankings.

Same poster, but not the first post in the thread:
Our entire playoff was a joke last year because we let Indiana, SMU, etc in because for some reason the CFB world wants to pretend that playing Wake Forest and Boston College is no different than playing Tennessee and LSU.
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Someone else says:
These rankings dont matter, it will all get sorted out in the playoffs.
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To which, the original guy responds:
Like last season?
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So, okay, let's look at what Auburn did in the non-conference. You know... the part of the schedule that a team can choose.
Alabama A&M
California (lost)
New Mexico
UL Monroe
All home games.

1. Get the voters to stop inflating the SEC rankings and then you'll see more ranked Big Ten teams playing more ranked Big Ten teams.
2. Stop paying attention to the AP rankings to determine strength of schedule.
 
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Zurp said:
Along the same lines...

CFB is broken

CFB is broken - Everyone is gushing over Indiana, and the Hoosiers are #2 in the AP poll. They’ve only beaten one team in the Top 28 of the AP poll if you conti
www.secrant.com
Auburn fan is whining because the Big Ten teams haven't played or beaten enough ranked teams.
Here's where we need that diagram showing that SEC teams' rankings are inflated because they play SEC teams that have inflated rankings.

Same poster, but not the first post in the thread:

Someone else says:

To which, the original guy responds:


So, okay, let's look at what Auburn did in the non-conference. You know... the part of the schedule that a team can choose.
Alabama A&M
California (lost)
New Mexico
UL Monroe
All home games.

1. Get the voters to stop inflating the SEC rankings and then you'll see more ranked Big Ten teams playing more ranked Big Ten teams.
2. Stop paying attention to the AP rankings to determine strength of schedule.
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Damn. I would have loved to have played LSU last year. Result might have been more fun than the Tennessee game.
 
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Laughable? Who should have been the 4th SEC team?
Georgia, Texas, and Tennessee got in with 2 losses each. Texas's second loss was in the conference championship game.
Missouri and Ole Miss each had 3 losses.
Alabama had 3 losses.

And who do you replace?
Oregon, Clemson, Boise, and Arizona State won their conferences - automatically in.
Penn State had 2 losses - the second was in the conference championship game.
Ohio State had 2 losses - one by 1 point to the #1 team, and another was just a weirdo fluke.
SMU had 2 losses - the second was in the conference championship game.
Indiana had 1 loss.
Notre Dame had 1 loss.

I can't imagine a single argument for Missouri, Ole Miss, or Alabama over any of those teams.
And "SEC > Everyone Else" just makes them look stupid.
 
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Zurp said:
Laughable? Who should have been the 4th SEC team?
Georgia, Texas, and Tennessee got in with 2 losses each. Texas's second loss was in the conference championship game.
Missouri and Ole Miss each had 3 losses.
Alabama had 3 losses.

And who do you replace?
Oregon, Clemson, Boise, and Arizona State won their conferences - automatically in.
Penn State had 2 losses - the second was in the conference championship game.
Ohio State had 2 losses - one by 1 point to the #1 team, and another was just a weirdo fluke.
SMU had 2 losses - the second was in the conference championship game.
Indiana had 1 loss.
Notre Dame had 1 loss.

I can't imagine a single argument for Missouri, Ole Miss, or Alabama over any of those teams.
And "SEC > Everyone Else" just makes them look stupid.
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Zurp, y’all just don’t understand how those SEC losses were “good losses” and not the kind that those other teams had.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
The SEC in a nutshell............

Basically 4 months of "Good Losses", followed by 8 months of "They didn't want to be there".

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I saw a video of some lower level ESPN stooge with his top 5 most exciting cfb teams to watch. All ACC and SEC teams. #1 was Texas. Miami and Clemson made appearances.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so obvious.......and if it didn't somehow fool the masses anyways.
 
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These metric computer ranking systems that have heavy baked in preseason biases keep up the illusion that the SEC is some unbeatable force. Yes they are very top heavy but fucking Auburn Florida and South Carolina are top 35 teams in almost every single one of them and none of them have a SEC team outside of the top 50 (yes even 2-8 Arkansas is in there). ESPNs own FPI, which they use to form their SOS rankings that they use to further pimp the SEC is amongst the worst of offenders here,

LSU (6-4) #22
Auburn (4-6) #24
South Carolina (3-7) #29
Kentucky (5-5) #33
Florida (3-7) #34
Arkansas (2-8) #41
Mississippi State (5-6) #48

For the sake of being "fair" it does have Ped State #20.....but Minnesota at 6-4 is 63rd and Rutgers at 5-5 is 60th for comparison sakes compared to the 2,3 and 4 win SEC teams. So overall these things significantly favor the SEC more than anyone else.

Look at the significant difference between ESPNs pimping system and a "bias free" system like the Colley Matrix


In terms of SOS Vanderbilt is 11th according to the FPI, look at the bias free system and they are 69th. And you know ESPN will use their FPIs heavily inflated SOS number to argue for pushing Vandy into the playoff if they can beat Tennessee.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
In 2002 when OSU was struggling to beat a better schedule than Miami was playing, the low margin of victory was used against us unmercifully.
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Not to quote an older post but thank the stars Iowa inexplicably lost to ISU early that year. Without that, those low margins of victory would have kept OSU out for sure.
buckeyemania11 said:
These metric computer ranking systems that have heavy baked in preseason biases keep up the illusion that the SEC is some unbeatable force. Yes they are very top heavy but fucking Auburn Florida and South Carolina are top 35 teams in almost every single one of them and none of them have a SEC team outside of the top 50 (yes even 2-8 Arkansas is in there). ESPNs own FPI, which they use to form their SOS rankings that they use to further pimp the SEC is amongst the worst of offenders here,

LSU (6-4) #22
Auburn (4-6) #24
South Carolina (3-7) #29
Kentucky (5-5) #33
Florida (3-7) #34
Arkansas (2-8) #41
Mississippi State (5-6) #48

For the sake of being "fair" it does have Ped State #20.....but Minnesota at 6-4 is 63rd and Rutgers at 5-5 is 60th for comparison sakes compared to the 2,3 and 4 win SEC teams. So overall these things significantly favor the SEC more than anyone else.

Look at the significant difference between ESPNs pimping system and a "bias free" system like the Colley Matrix


In terms of SOS Vanderbilt is 11th according to the FPI, look at the bias free system and they are 69th. And you know ESPN will use their FPIs heavily inflated SOS number to argue for pushing Vandy into the playoff if they can beat Tennessee.
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Have they ever released the formula for FPI? I feel like there's no way you could get those results without purposely cooking the books.
 
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