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SEC (It just means more.. even its losses are wins)

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Zurp said:
The fact that Brett McMurphy is sending the message along doesn't say much for Brett McMurphy. And I didn't think much of him, before this.
But I'll bite. Let's see how other people did against your opponents. I'll agree it isn't the same, but it's a start.

Western Kentucky - W - Western Kentucky went 8-4 before losing in their conference championship game and then the bowl game. And any team I look at on the schedule, if I say, "Is that a real team?" They lost to that team. So, 0 points for Alabama for this win.

South Florida - W - South Florida went 6-6. No real impressive wins. So, 0 points for Alabama.

Wisconsin - W - Usually one of the better teams in the Big Ten, they went 5-7. Sure, they lost to some good teams: Oregon, Penn State, Alabama, but they also lost to Nebraska, Minnesota, and Iowa. No real noticeable wins. 0 points.

Georgia - W - This one is impressive. Georgia only lost to Alabama and Notre Dame, and... somehow, Ole Miss. So, okay, 1 point.

Vanderbilt - L - I thought Vandy beat someone else. But I don't see it. Can I take a point away from Alabama for this one? I think I will.

South Carolina - W - I'll give them a point. South Carolina only lost to 3 teams in the regular season, and all were better than them. Maybe a half point? Meh - I'll go with full points. 1 point.

Tennessee - L - Tennessee only lost to Georgia and Arkansas. I'll say they get a point.

Missouri - W - Missouri only lost to 3 other teams - all better than Missouri. 1 point.

LSU - W - LSU also lost to Florida. LSU wasn't a dumpster fire, but not amazing. 1 point.

Mercer - W - Mercer?? You get no points for chicken shit Saturday games. Get out of here.

Oklahoma - L - You couldn't get a touchdown against Oklahoma, who couldn't get a touchdown against Texas. I'm taking another point away.

Auburn - W - 0 points for this. Alabama was better and so was half of the teams in the P4 conferences.

They got a total of 3 points. If other people had played your schedule, they're going to have a tough time getting out of Georgia with a win, and many would have trouble getting through Tennessee, Missouri, LSU with 2 wins. But I think most of the Top 10 is coming out at 10-2, 9-3 at worst (with a win over Vandy).
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Wow

Thanks for going to all that effort

I may have lost the plot here… did you give them a point for losing to Tennessee?
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
If Bama lost to UGA and Missouri instead of Vanderbilt and Oklahoma I could maybe see the point.

But just screaming "BUT LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULE WHAT WOULD THEIR RECORD BE WITH OURS!!!" which is basically trying to excuse your own failures losing to 2 teams that finished with at least 6 losses, get outta here with that.
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When we lost to Iowa and Purdue, we weren't allowed to hide those terrible losses with a good overall record. Those losses eliminated us before the clock hit 00:00 in the 4th quarter. And probably rightfully so. They can get all the way fucked with this argument.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
When we lost to Iowa and Purdue, we weren't allowed to hide those terrible losses with a good overall record. Those losses eliminated us before the clock hit 00:00 in the 4th quarter. And probably rightfully so. They can get all the way fucked with this argument.
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I believe that losing to Iowa was Ohio State's second loss that year. 2017? So that wasn't all that was factored into keeping Ohio State out that year.
But 2018, Purdue was Ohio State's only loss.

DaddyBigBucks said:
Wow

Thanks for going to all that effort

I may have lost the plot here… did you give them a point for losing to Tennessee?
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Yeah. What was I thinking? I don't know. The probably shouldn't have been a thing. But Tennessee was legitimately a playoff team, so they shouldn't lose a point for losing to Tennessee. But yeah, they shouldn't GET a point, either.

Was Alabama's schedule the toughest in the country, by any ranking? Was their schedule the toughest in the SEC? According to this website https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi/_/view/resume they were neither. They were 17th in the country (7th in SEC) in strength of record (whatever the shit that means), and 20th (11th in SEC) in strength of schedule. That probably includes playoffs, because Ohio State was #1 and #2 in the country, and I didn't think they had that impressive of a schedule, going into the playoffs.
 
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JCOSU86 said:
Southerners have gotten special treatment since the very founding of this country. So why does it surprise anyone that the SEC expects it?
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Them acting like they deserve special treatment after last year is hilarious.

yea SMU got dunked on and so did Indiana to a lesser extent.

But Tennessee got absolutely destroyed by Ohio State. Texas barely skimmed by Arizona State and then lost to Ohio State and UGA lost their first game to Notre Dame.

The way they act you'd think they had dominant performances in the playoff and had like 3/4 in the Final 4. The SEC didn't exactly dominate in 2023 either.

There is going to be some real cope, NIL and the transfer portal have completely evened the playing field and shifted the power chokehold away from the SEC, they will never admit this and just keep shouting "BUT PAST SUCCESS!"
 
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charlohiottean said:
Franklin, Cignetti, Bielema, Rhule, Riley?
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Yeah. I'll give him credit for Day, and probably Lanning.
Give Cignetti time. I still think they'll fall back toward being "Indiana" very soon.
Bielema? Rhule? Riley? Are we just naming current Big Ten coaches? To be fair, I can't name very many SEC head coaches, so maybe Bielema, Rhule, and Riley really are better.
And Franklin... hey, he did finally win a couple of big games - good job beating SMU and Boise. And that game plan against SMU - brilliant! "Let's just tell the other team to throw the ball where only our team can catch it."
Any list that includes Franklin is a list you don't want to be on.... unless the list-maker was a goober.
 
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charlohiottean said:
Franklin, Cignetti, Bielema, Rhule, Riley?
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Zurp said:
Yeah. I'll give him credit for Day, and probably Lanning.
Give Cignetti time. I still think they'll fall back toward being "Indiana" very soon.
Bielema? Rhule? Riley? Are we just naming current Big Ten coaches? To be fair, I can't name very many SEC head coaches, so maybe Bielema, Rhule, and Riley really are better.
And Franklin... hey, he did finally win a couple of big games - good job beating SMU and Boise. And that game plan against SMU - brilliant! "Let's just tell the other team to throw the ball where only our team can catch it."
Any list that includes Franklin is a list you don't want to be on.... unless the list-maker was a goober.
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An initial look at the B1G coach names does make one chuckle, until you compare the coaches of the mid teams in the SEC:
Stoops, Elko, Freeze, Venables, Pittman, Lebby, and Vandy coach(it honestly doesn't matter his name).
Franklin/Ped St I'd compare to say Tennessee, and I'm not sure who's the better coach. I'd honestly lean Ped St, tbh, and the reason I'd say that is because the NIL for Tennessee is VASTLY superior to what Franklin has in State College. Tenn has a higher number of former 5stars, led by the "generational talent" that was Nico IamleaveandgotoUCLA, and yet the epitome of an average QB in Sean Clifford had better numbers
 
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