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The fact that they are above Tennessee is laughable. Their only reason is Henderson Hooker being out? Weak sauce.

They are covering bases for if USC and TCU both lose. That way they can put Bama in then. No way could they justify putting Tennessee with Joe fucking Milton at QB in over 1 loss TCU. They sure can morph a reason to put Bama in ahead of them though.
 
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If the Trojans beat Utah, do the Utes automatically go to the Rose Bowl? I honestly think a rematch would suck. I’d much rather play Washington instead of a rematch game. They actually mentioned the Rose Bowl committee possibly taking Penn State. Would we turn down the Rose? I honestly like the prospect of playing in the Orange vs Clemson possibly. The Rose probably pays out more, I assume and I can’t see OSU turning it down
 
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They are covering bases for if USC and TCU both lose. That way they can put Bama in then. No way could they justify putting Tennessee with Joe fucking Milton at QB in over 1 loss TCU. They sure can morph a reason to put Bama in ahead of them though.

It’s absolutely about positioning. I’m just sticking to the rules of “what have they done since” to be over the other team. Basically just calling out more hypocrisy.
 
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It’s absolutely about positioning. I’m just sticking to the rules of “what have they done since” to be over the other team. Basically just calling out more hypocrisy.

I mean you could argue that Hooker being out is a legit reason to leave Tennessee out of position to back in if TCU/USC fail. Fair or not.

I think they'd probably still have Bama ahead of them even if Hooker was still playing though.

The Bama past success benefit of the doubt being the reason. Which is BS of course. But it is what it is.
 
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If the Trojans beat Utah, do the Utes automatically go to the Rose Bowl? I honestly think a rematch would suck. I’d much rather play Washington instead of a rematch game. They actually mentioned the Rose Bowl committee possibly taking Penn State. Would we turn down the Rose? I honestly like the prospect of playing in the Orange vs Clemson possibly. The Rose probably pays out more, I assume and I can’t see OSU turning it down

I wouldn't think so? That would be Utah's 4th loss.

Washington is 10-2 and is only ranked 1 spot behind Utah right now. Seems like Washington SHOULD be the team that would go.

You'd have to think theyd pass on a 9-4 Utah team who didnt win the Pac 12. But who knows I guess.
 
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If the Trojans beat Utah, do the Utes automatically go to the Rose Bowl? I honestly think a rematch would suck. I’d much rather play Washington instead of a rematch game. They actually mentioned the Rose Bowl committee possibly taking Penn State. Would we turn down the Rose? I honestly like the prospect of playing in the Orange vs Clemson possibly. The Rose probably pays out more, I assume and I can’t see OSU turning it down
Yes it would be Utah, no I don’t want to play them again. But would be a chance to see McCord and next years offense.
Really pulling for Utah in this game. Would rather get owned by Georgia than play Utah in the rose again.
 
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I mean you could argue that Hooker being out is a legit reason to leave Tennessee out of position to back in if TCU/USC fail. Fair or not.

I think they'd probably still have Bama ahead of them even if Hooker was still playing though.

The Bama past success benefit of the doubt being the reason. Which is BS of course. But it is what it is.

What hangs me up about the Hooker excuse is that they allowed us to jump TCU when we were down to our third string qb.

Then you look at them respecting h2h wins this year with FSU over LSU.

I guess the transparency of the bias is gross.
 
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What hangs me up about the Hooker excuse is that they allowed us to jump TCU when we were down to our third string qb.

Then you look at them respecting h2h wins this year with FSU over LSU.

I guess the transparency of the bias is gross.

Our 3rd string QB won the B1G title game 59-0 against a 10 win #13 Wisconsin team though. So it was a substantial performance to go off of for the committee.

Tennessee of course doesn't get to play in the conference title game so I guess it's true we "don't know" what would happen. But I can only assume they wouldnt get close to beating UGA with Joe Milton at QB.
 
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I'm praying to any deity listening that TCU loses if I'm the committee. A UGA, SCUM, USC, and OSU final four would probably be the highest rated CFP ever. An OSU v SCUM rematch in the NC would break records.

I'm sure they are. We've seen before that they will leave a TCU type team out the second they are able to.

They are probably really hoping TCU and USC BOTH lose.

A UGA/SCUM/Ohio State/Bama final 4 would really rake in some of the highest ratings ever seen.
 
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I'm sure they are. We've seen before that they will leave a TCU type team out the second they are able to.

They are probably really hoping TCU and USC BOTH lose.

A UGA/SCUM/Ohio State/Bama final 4 would really rake in some of the highest ratings ever seen.
I think they'd want USC just because of the blue blood factor and the west coast audience. ESPN might find a way send the 2019 Fiesta Bowl officials to the Big 12 Championship though. Organize a few questionable PIs and overturn a crucial fumble or two in KSU's favor.
 
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If the Trojans beat Utah, do the Utes automatically go to the Rose Bowl? I honestly think a rematch would suck. I’d much rather play Washington instead of a rematch game. They actually mentioned the Rose Bowl committee possibly taking Penn State. Would we turn down the Rose? I honestly like the prospect of playing in the Orange vs Clemson possibly. The Rose probably pays out more, I assume and I can’t see OSU turning it down

If the Trojans beat Utah, do the Utes automatically go to the Rose Bowl?

The answer to that is no. However, I'm wondering if Purdue beats scUM in the B1G CCG will Purdue go to the Rose Bowl (see Rose Bowl link below: "the Rose Bowl Game is contractually obligated to feature the Pac-12 Conference Champion and the Big Ten Conference Champion") and scUM still goes to the CFPs.

If Ohio State doesn't get in the CFPs: (barring a Purdue win in the B1G CCG) the Buckeyes will probably play the highest ranked PAC-12 team (not in the CFPs).

Here's the selection process:

The New Year’s Six selection process,
For the 2022 season:
— The Fiesta and Peach are hosting semifinals for the College Football Playoff.
— The Rose is under contract to pair the Pac-12 against the Big Ten.
— The Sugar will match the SEC against the Big 12.
— The Orange is obligated to invite an ACC team for one slot and either the SEC, Big Ten or Notre Dame for the other.
(In each case: If the conference champion participates in the playoff, that league sends a replacement team to fulfill the contract.)

That leaves the Cotton Bowl as the only game without a conference or semifinal matchup. But because the highest-ranked team from the Group of Five is guaranteed a berth in the New Year’s Six, there is only one spot available in the Cotton for an at-large team.

109th Rose Bowl Game Selection Procedures

The selection process for the Rose Bowl Game has, in a sense, gotten easier in the College Football Playoff (CFP) era.

In what is known as a "traditional" Rose Bowl Game year, the 2023 Rose Bowl Game is contractually obligated to feature the Pac-12 Conference Champion and the Big Ten Conference Champion. The contract, known as a tri-party agreement, is between the Tournament of Roses, Big Ten and Pac-12. It is the longest consecutive bowl and conference agreement in college football, dating back to 1946, and was first executed in the 1947 Rose Bowl Game.

In both the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) and the CFP, if Pac-12 or Big Ten Conference Champion was selected to the National Championship or National Semifinals, that team was released to play in that game and the Tournament of Roses would select a replacement team. In the past, that allowed teams like the University of Texas (2005, 2006) or Texas Christian University (2010) to play in the Rose Bowl Game. Now, however, in the CFP-system, the Tournament of Roses may only select a team from its partner conferences.

Should a team from the Big Ten or Pac-12 be selected to go to the College Football Playoff, the Tournament of Roses will traditionally select the next-highest CFP-ranked team from that conference. There is, however, a caveat to that clause in the contract.

If the next-highest ranked team is in a 'cluster' of teams, meaning there is another team or teams from the same conference ranked within several spots of each other, the Tournament of Roses will select the team from that cluster that will result in the best possible matchup for the Rose Bowl Game.

In a cluster situation, the Tournament of Roses will take into account factors, in no particular order, such as: the last time a team played in the Rose Bowl Game, head-to-head results, regular season schedule, overall record, opponents played, past playoff or bowl appearances and performance, and historical matchups.

It should be noted that it is the strong preference of the Tournament of Roses, Pac-12 and Big Ten Conferences, that the highest-ranked available team in each conference be selected as the replacement team.

Entire article: https://rosebowlgame.com/news/2022/11/3/general-109th-rose-bowl-game-selection-procedures.aspx#:~:text=In what is known as,Big Ten and Pac-12.

They actually mentioned the Rose Bowl committee possibly taking Penn State.

Yeah, there is a "cluster" clause/caveat that might allow The Rose Bowl to do that; however, I think "they" is this case is primarily Mark Wogenrich a Ped State reporter:

Penn State could end up in Rose Bowl thanks to selection process 'caveat'

“The Rose Bowl states that, if a conference champ makes the playoff, it “traditionally” would select the next-highest ranked conference team,” Wogenrich writes. “This season represents a fine opportunity to break tradition. Ohio State likely will be the highest-ranked Big Ten or SEC team, making it eligible for selection to the Orange Bowl. It has played in the Rose Bowl twice since 2018, including last year against Utah, which faces USC in the Pac-12 title game.

“Meanwhile, the Buckeyes last played in the Orange Bowl in the 2013 season. And Penn State can offer the Rose Bowl an energized fan base on a four-game win streak. The Lions haven’t been there since the 2016 season. The swap makes sense as a break from that tradition*.....:lol:

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/pennstat...otball-bowl-projections-cotton-bowl-rose-bowl



* Yeah, but only to Ped State fans. Going to consecutive Rose Bowls has never been a problem in the past. I remember back in 1973-1974-1975 Ohio State played USC in the Rose Bowl three years in a row. In addition, in the 1976 Rose Bowl Ohio State played UCLA. I especially really remember that game, since I was there. We were undefeated, #1 in the country, had a 2 time Heisman Trophy winner, and had beaten UCLA in the regular season 41-20 in LA. The game didn't end well, we lost 23-10.
 
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