• Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
  • Consider registering! Fewer and higher quality ads, no emails you don't want, access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Even if you just want to lurk, there are a lot of good reasons to register!

Scenarios for Final 2022 CFP Rankings

Jump to latest Follow Reply
Sort by date Sort by votes
ScriptOhio said:
The answer to that is no. However, I'm wondering if Purdue beats scUM in the B1G CCG will Purdue go to the Rose Bowl (see Rose Bowl link below: "the Rose Bowl Game is contractually obligated to feature the Pac-12 Conference Champion and the Big Ten Conference Champion") and scUM still goes to the CFPs.

If Ohio State doesn't get in the CFPs: (barring a Purdue win in the B1G CCG) the Buckeyes will probably play the highest ranked PAC-12 team (not in the CFPs).

Here's the selection process:

The New Year’s Six selection process,
For the 2022 season:
— The Fiesta and Peach are hosting semifinals for the College Football Playoff.
— The Rose is under contract to pair the Pac-12 against the Big Ten.
— The Sugar will match the SEC against the Big 12.
— The Orange is obligated to invite an ACC team for one slot and either the SEC, Big Ten or Notre Dame for the other.
(In each case: If the conference champion participates in the playoff, that league sends a replacement team to fulfill the contract.)

That leaves the Cotton Bowl as the only game without a conference or semifinal matchup. But because the highest-ranked team from the Group of Five is guaranteed a berth in the New Year’s Six, there is only one spot available in the Cotton for an at-large team.

109th Rose Bowl Game Selection Procedures

The selection process for the Rose Bowl Game has, in a sense, gotten easier in the College Football Playoff (CFP) era.

In what is known as a "traditional" Rose Bowl Game year, the 2023 Rose Bowl Game is contractually obligated to feature the Pac-12 Conference Champion and the Big Ten Conference Champion. The contract, known as a tri-party agreement, is between the Tournament of Roses, Big Ten and Pac-12. It is the longest consecutive bowl and conference agreement in college football, dating back to 1946, and was first executed in the 1947 Rose Bowl Game.

In both the Bowl Championship Series (BCS) and the CFP, if Pac-12 or Big Ten Conference Champion was selected to the National Championship or National Semifinals, that team was released to play in that game and the Tournament of Roses would select a replacement team. In the past, that allowed teams like the University of Texas (2005, 2006) or Texas Christian University (2010) to play in the Rose Bowl Game. Now, however, in the CFP-system, the Tournament of Roses may only select a team from its partner conferences.

Should a team from the Big Ten or Pac-12 be selected to go to the College Football Playoff, the Tournament of Roses will traditionally select the next-highest CFP-ranked team from that conference. There is, however, a caveat to that clause in the contract.

If the next-highest ranked team is in a 'cluster' of teams, meaning there is another team or teams from the same conference ranked within several spots of each other, the Tournament of Roses will select the team from that cluster that will result in the best possible matchup for the Rose Bowl Game.

In a cluster situation, the Tournament of Roses will take into account factors, in no particular order, such as: the last time a team played in the Rose Bowl Game, head-to-head results, regular season schedule, overall record, opponents played, past playoff or bowl appearances and performance, and historical matchups.

It should be noted that it is the strong preference of the Tournament of Roses, Pac-12 and Big Ten Conferences, that the highest-ranked available team in each conference be selected as the replacement team.

Entire article: https://rosebowlgame.com/news/2022/11/3/general-109th-rose-bowl-game-selection-procedures.aspx#:~:text=In what is known as,Big Ten and Pac-12.



Yeah, there is a "cluster" clause/caveat that might allow The Rose Bowl to do that; however, I think "they" is this case is primarily Mark Wogenrich a Ped State reporter:

Penn State could end up in Rose Bowl thanks to selection process 'caveat'

“The Rose Bowl states that, if a conference champ makes the playoff, it “traditionally” would select the next-highest ranked conference team,” Wogenrich writes. “This season represents a fine opportunity to break tradition. Ohio State likely will be the highest-ranked Big Ten or SEC team, making it eligible for selection to the Orange Bowl. It has played in the Rose Bowl twice since 2018, including last year against Utah, which faces USC in the Pac-12 title game.

“Meanwhile, the Buckeyes last played in the Orange Bowl in the 2013 season. And Penn State can offer the Rose Bowl an energized fan base on a four-game win streak. The Lions haven’t been there since the 2016 season. The swap makes sense as a break from that tradition*.....:lol:”

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/pennstat...otball-bowl-projections-cotton-bowl-rose-bowl



* Yeah, but only to Ped State fans. Going to consecutive Rose Bowls has never been a problem in the past. I remember back in 1973-1974-1975 Ohio State played USC in the Rose Bowl three years in a row. In addition, in the 1976 Rose Bowl Ohio State played UCLA. I especially really remember that game, since I was there. We were undefeated, #1 in the country, had a 2 time Heisman Trophy winner, and had beaten UCLA in the regular season 41-20 in LA. The game didn't end well, we lost 23-10.
Click to expand...

Didn’t know about the cluster rule. I thought it was next highest ranked. So looks like Washington would get the spot with a usc win. I wouldn’t mind seeing that game with next years offense. Just didn’t want to play Utah again.

Zero chance the rose bowl select Penn state over OSU if they have the out of not selecting Utah.

Purdue getting the rose bowl spot might be enough for the big ten to abandon divisions a year early.
 
Upvote 0
gmen6981 said:
Just for fun, let's say chaos reigns supreme and Georgia loses to 3 loss LSU, TTUN loses to unranked Purdue and TCU and USC both lose. ( a guy can dream, amiright?) What does the committee do then?
Click to expand...

It seems the consensus is that UGA and ttun don't even need to win to get in. Some think TCU could lose and still get in (I don't buy that bc I think the committee would favor OSU over TCU on a neutral field and it's their job to put the "best" 4 teams in).

Then, if USC loses that opens the door for Bama or for TCU to possibly stay in the #3 or #4 spots. USC losing is the best chance for OSU. A TCU loss and I honestly don't know what the committee does. May depend on how they look and how bad they get beat. A double-digit loss may keep TCU out. A last second FG loss could still keep them in. Going to be interesting.
 
Upvote 0
gmen6981 said:
Just for fun, let's say chaos reigns supreme and Georgia loses to 3 loss LSU, TTUN loses to unranked Purdue and TCU and USC both lose. ( a guy can dream, amiright?) What does the committee do then?
Click to expand...

Prime example of why I have always believed you never make an auto bid for the CCG winners.
 
Upvote 0
Jaxbuck said:
Prime example of why I have always believed you never make an auto bid for the CCG winners.
Click to expand...

I'd be fine with an auto bid for CCG winners if there were no divisions, because the two best teams in the conference would play in it. Too often the B1GCG has been the first place team versus the fourth place team. It's happened in other conferences as well. One year UCLA played in the PACCG as a six-win team. They lost, as expected.
 
Upvote 0
Jake said:
I'd be fine with an auto bid for CCG winners if there were no divisions, because the two best teams in the conference would play in it. Too often the B1GCG has been the first place team versus the fourth place team. It's happened in other conferences as well. One year UCLA played in the PACCG as a six-win team. They lost, as expected.
Click to expand...

Yes, no division thing makes sense but in this soon to be expanded CFP field these CCG's make less and less sense.

They start to become pure risk (aside from the revenue they generate). This year for instance, what would the B1G possibly gain from a rematch of The Game a week later?
 
Upvote 0
TampaBuckeyes said:
Didn’t know about the cluster rule. I thought it was next highest ranked. So looks like Washington would get the spot with a usc win. I wouldn’t mind seeing that game with next years offense. Just didn’t want to play Utah again.

Zero chance the rose bowl select Penn state over OSU if they have the out of not selecting Utah.

Purdue getting the rose bowl spot might be enough for the big ten to abandon divisions a year early.
Click to expand...

Currently Utah is 11 and Washington is 12. I don't think it is likely that Ohio State will play Utah in the Rose Bowl. If Utah wins the PAC-12 CCG then USC falls out of the top 4 and Ohio State at 5 would probably bump in the CFPs. If USC wins the PAC-12 CCG then the loss would drop Utah below Washington in the ratings and Washington then would be the highest rated non CCP team and be selected to play in the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top