COTiger;1036029; said:
I guess I'm in the minority of your characterization of SEC fans.
I enjoy watching
all college ball games as long as they are competitive. I'm old enough to remember watching Big 10 footballl in the 3 yards and a cloud of dust era. I would agree with your assessment that a lot of SEC fans are only interested in SEC football. Whether the number approaches a majority or not, I don't know. I also think your characterization of the bulk of SEC fans being idiots is unfair and since I'm a guest on your board I'll let it go at that.
Well, in fairness, I'm speaking with some history on the Yahoo Smack Boards in mind. As I said in my rep comment to you, I openly admit that the bulk of you LSU fans on this board have been a welcome departure from the "rule." Most of you have "SEC Pride" but you're also reasonable about it. That's fine, and would not be the subject of my semi-rant. To be sure, there are enough idiot Big Ten fans to go around as well. But, and I'm trying to be objective about this, SEC fans, pound for pound "don't get it" on the big scale.
Tigertracker;1036055; said:
Let me see if I have this straight. I read on the posts here that you have the best coach, the best band, the best fan base, the best rivalry, you are smarter, you watch more TV games, you have more teeth, etc. and you have the gall to call SEC fans "Arrogant nitwits" Just how many NC has your conference won in the last 25 years or so? I try to be polite on other teams boards, but you are condeming people that you don't know. Have you ever been to a game at an SEC school or are you basing your opinion on message boards. I have been to OSU a couple of times and had a good time, I met some good people and met a couple of jackasses, same as at any other school I have been to. With the exception of some of your "Fans" mugging our mascot and stealing his tiger suit, all went well. Did it ever occur to you that the reason we have so much Conference pride is because we have so many good teams in it.
Hopefully my comments above help with your post here. In any case, there is no question that Buckeyes have Buckeye homers, and I think to a lesser extent are there "Big Ten Homers" That is, we tend to homer our individual teams, whereas SEC folks take it the next step and yack up the COnference. I guess the way I see it.... If Auburn wins it's bowl game, you guys trumpet that as a victory. And while I'm perfectly happy with Michigan winning a bowl game, I damn well don't "Root" for it, and if they get embarrassed, I laugh... and laugh... and laugh...
Does that make sense?
I certainly didn't mean to insult the LSU contingent here, as I thought I had been clear that you guys have been a welcome relief from the typical (typical, in my view)
Does OSU have the best coach? I don't know. But, I do know I wouldn't trade him for any other. Best? Eh.. is there such a thing?
Best band? Yes. On this, OSU does indeed have the best band. But.. it's still only a band. Relax. (some OSU fans REALLY do the band thing, and that's fine, but I confess to not being that guy)
Best Rivalry? Yes. As I indicated pages ago, there is only one The Game, and it belongs to Ohio State and Michigan. There are other rivalries, and they are important. They are not The Game. If you have 2 rivalries, you have 1 too many.
As for the remainder, ever team and conference has their idiots. In my estimation (and it's just MY estimation) the SEC has more. Individual team wise, the title belongs to Miami, with Oklahoma a close second (at least on Yahoo... haven't had many dealings with them since) If I had to rank visiting fan bases, I would at this point put LSU right behind Texas and ahead of Oky St. THat's a compliment.
Titles in the last 25 years? Well... there's Ohio State's 2002 Title, of course... and Michigan's 1997 Title. But, that's it. It is what it is. I could go on about various problems, mentioning 1994 Penn State and 1996 Ohio State and how they should have NCs, but it won't make any difference to you. But, I will say this... Miami won a number of Title in that time frame, 5 I think it is.... Does that mean the Big East is a "great conference?" OF course not.
I freely admit I am basing this on message boards, and individual meetings with fans in real life. I have not been to an SEC game in the flesh. I can tell you this, though, I do not take issue with your passion for your teams, your conference or the games played. I only take issue with your presentation... and again, I don't mean "you" necessarily. My point is simply that the reputation of SEC fans among the rest of us is that you're all delusional nutcases who don't know the first thing about football outside of the region. Right or wrong, that's the reputation. That doesn't mean individuals such as yourself aren't good people, or even that you fall in to the "norm" Gatorubet is one of my favorite posters on this board... Considering the year OSU had against Florida, I should hate that guy. :p
Anyway... on the issue of "so many good teams in it" Let me ask you this... Why is it when Kentucky - which sucks - is "good" we all hear about how powerful the SEC is. When Illinois - which sucks - is good, we hear about how down the Big Ten is? See what I'm driving at here? "Great teams" is a bit of a stretch. How great is Mississippi State? Ole Miss? Kentucky? Vandy? Alabama has been shit for years. Florida has been good since spurrier, a joke before that. (0-11 as recently as 1979) LSU went longer than OSU between titles (1957 to 2003, compared to 1968 to 2002) Georgia? Eh... nice pedigree... what have you done for me lately? Tennessee? Please. This isn't the mid 90s. Auburn? Come on. Seriously? Auburn? If 9-3 is what you want, there's your team. Arkansas... I laugh. Able to put together a run from time to time, but usually a middling team... probably not a real SEC team anyway... more of a Big XII team. South Carolina has been shit forever, though their fans DO support them (I think it's just for the "Cock" hat) and they are in decent shape with Spurrier now.
So, as you can see, it's perception. You hang on Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia and Florida and to a lesser extent Auburn... on NAME Recognition. Only 2 of those teams are presently relevant.
You're not the fucking Pac 10 with its East Coast bias crap. You're simply in the south. Give me a damn break.