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Rivalries and Conferences (Split from LSU v. OSU Offensive Personnel Thread)

sluTiger;1041118; said:
I though LSU/OLE Piss since 1894

That was the first game.

The post was talking about when the current streak for consecutive years playing an opponent began. The teams have played each year since '45, plus the Sugar Bowl after the '59 season.

Here's the part of that post that's relevant:

JohnLSU;1040352; said:
There are six teams we play every year (Florida, Auburn, Ole Miss, Alabama, Arkansas, Miss State). Here's how long we've been playing each of those teams each and every single year:

Miss State since 1944
Ole Miss since 1945
Alabama since 1964.
Florida since 1971.
Auburn since 1980
Arkansas since 1992.

And here are the total games in history we have played against those six teams:

98 -- vs. Miss State
91 -- vs. Ole Miss
69 -- vs. Bama
54 -- vs. Florida
52 -- vs. Arkansas
40 -- vs. Auburn
 
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-LSU-;1040107; said:
It's always an interesting game because of the intensity of the rivalry, but is it always relevant in the grand scheme of college football? probably most years just because there usually something pretty significant on the line, but not always. Missouri and Kansas hate each other at least as much as Michigan and Ohio State, yet nobody would try to say that game is important or relevant every year.

for the most part, yes. it is relevant to college football every year. but thats not really the point. noone said the game was important to you personally nor that it should be. i for one am fully aware that the outcome of the tOSU scum game has little bearing on the sec other than potentially affecting what team an sec school faces in what bowl. however, this does not mean that the game is somehow "irrelevant". just because YOU don't care doesn't mean that it isn't very important to others. the game is most certainly important and relevant to me every single year.

the army navy game typically has little impact on the college football landscape. but i would hardly call it irrelevant or meaningless. in my mind thats easily one of the top 5 college football rivalries.

sluTiger;1040881; said:
Based on recent history, LSU-AUBURN is as important a rivalry as OSU/Michigan. The winner of the LSU/Auburn game for the past 5 or 6 years have determined the SEC WEST and a shot at the SEC Championship game.

ya know... your arguments would have more merit if you were actually right about what goes on in your own conference.

sec championship games over the last 5 years:
2007 - lsu vrs tenn
2006 - florida vrs. arkansas
2005 - georgia vrs. lsu
2004 - auburn vrs. tenn
2003 - lsu vrs. georgia
you did say or 6 years so...
2002 - georgia vrs. arkansas

thats 4/5 or 4/6 (2/3 if you will) depending on which one better serves to prove your point i suppose.

big ten conference champs over the last 5 years:
2007 - tOSU outright champ
2006 - tOSU outright champ
2005 - tOSU/psu co champ
2004 - scum/iowa co champ
2003 - scum outright champ
again that pesky 6th year...
2002 - tOSU/iowa co champ

now i know what your going to say. co champ blah blah blah blah. lets say just for the sake of argument that the big 10 had a championship game just like the sec does. im seeing 2 (or 3 depending on how far we go back) years in which the conference champ was shared. in each case it was shared between 2 teams. meaning that if we actually had a conference championship game it would likely be those two teams who would have faced each other in order to determine the conference champ. so its very likely (depending on how the conference was split) that tOSU or scum would have been in every single conference championship game over the past 5 or 6 years. which is either 5/5 or 6/6 (1 as it were) respectively. so my response to your theory that the lsu auburn game is more relevant because the winner then had a direct shot at the conference title more often than "the game" is a big fat, "negative on your last over".

understand im not trying to take anything away from what lsu and auburn combined to do over that time period. that is flat out impressive for any two teams in any conference especially the sec. but it doesn't make your statement anymore factual.
 
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martinss01;1041321; said:
ya know... your arguments would have more merit if you were actually right about what goes on in your own conference.

sec championship games over the last 5 years:
2007 - lsu vrs tenn
2006 - florida vrs. arkansas
2005 - georgia vrs. lsu
2004 - auburn vrs. tenn
2003 - lsu vrs. georgia
you did say or 6 years so...
2002 - georgia vrs. arkansas

2006 LSU loss to Auburn is what cost LSU the shot at the West because we beat R-Kansas.

2002 LSU lost to Auburn, Alabama and R-Kansas, so you may correct me on that year. That was a total brain fart for Saban on the last drive of that game.

All other years the LSU/Auburn game has pretty much decided the representative from the SEC West.
 
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sluTiger;1041338; said:
2006 LSU loss to Auburn is what cost LSU the shot at the West because we beat R-Kansas.

2002 LSU lost to Auburn, Alabama and R-Kansas, so you may correct me on that year. That was a total brain fart for Saban on the last drive of that game.

All other years the LSU/Auburn game has pretty much decided the representative from the SEC West.

Here's some information to see if your claim is correct:

Date W-L Record SEC Championship Game?
2000-9-16 L 8-4 No
2001-12-01 W 10-3 Yes
2002-10-26 L 8-5 No
2003-10-25 W 13-1 Yes
2004-9-18 L 9-3 No
2005-10-22 W 11-2 Yes
2006-9-16 L 11-2
2007-10-20 W 11-2 Yes

From the information above, I call, "Bull shit" on your claim.

The only time that LSU has played Auburn after October was in 2001, and and that year they won, played in the SEC Championship game, and still had three other losses.

When you don't play a team late in the year on a consistent basis; then there is little play for the end of the year consequences. While it's true that each year Auburn beat LSU, LSU did not play in the SEC Championship game; LSU also had 4, 5, 3, and 2 losses. The only other time that the Auburn game could have affected the outcome is 2006. Two years in 8 does not a rivalry make.
 
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Got a little curious on the rivalry documentary after seeing y'all consistently bring it up so went and talked to my friends Dr. Google and Mr. IMDB. One thing i noticed was that a lot of Michigan fans did not like it because it seemed like one big infomercial for OSU and a lot of their positives are cut out. Do the ones that visit this board feel the same way? The writer/co-producer listed on IMDB was a guy by the name of Eric Keston. Seems like he his specialty is sports documentaries. He's done 'em on the Babe, Mantle, Bear Bryant, and LSU's own Pistol Pete in addition to the ya'lls, and they all seemed decently made. I guess i am mainly just curious if the Michigan alumni that visit are as fond of the documentary as the OSU people are.
 
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sluTiger;1041338; said:
2006 LSU loss to Auburn is what cost LSU the shot at the West because we beat R-Kansas.

2002 LSU lost to Auburn, Alabama and R-Kansas, so you may correct me on that year. That was a total brain fart for Saban on the last drive of that game.

All other years the LSU/Auburn game has pretty much decided the representative from the SEC West.

Yeah what's crazy about 2006 is if the LSU-Auburn game had been called properly it could have have been us in the national title game instead of Florida...or at least the winner of the UF-LSU SECCG matchup.
 
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JohnLSU;1039813; said:
Yes, but I could say that every Ohio State fan should be forced to watch an HBO special on the Michigan vs. ND rivalry.
You be sure to let us know when HBO makes it... :roll1:

JohnLSU;1039813; said:
But there are also books about the Michigan vs. ND rivalry
There are also Nancy Drew books, but what does that have to do with the best rivalry in all of American sports?
 
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LSUTyga73;1041762; said:
Yeah what's crazy about 2006 is if the LSU-Auburn game had been called properly it could have have been us in the national title game instead of Florida...or at least the winner of the UF-LSU SECCG matchup.

Ahh yes, the good old referee excuse. The refs in the tOSU-Illinois game were turdbags that were investigated for being turdbags, but you won't find that tired excuse trotted out.
 
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The refs in the tOSU-Illinois game were turdbags that were investigated for being turdbags, but you won't find that tired excuse trotted out.
Actually they were suspended for being turdbags the previous week, unfortunately suit-wearing turdbags decided to postpone the punishment. The recent background turdbaggery highlighted on ESPN is a different bag altogether.
 
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NFBuck;1041770; said:
Ahh yes, the good old referee excuse. The refs in the tOSU-Illinois game were turdbags that were investigated for being turdbags, but you won't find that tired excuse trotted out.

I've actually heard it a couple times here but I'm not gonna hold it against y'all cause we all need someone to blame for those tough losses...

But in case you were wondering what I was referring to...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESgoMBi6d3g]YouTube - Ref Gate LSU vs Auburn 2006[/ame]
 
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