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Rick Pitino (HC St. John's)

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brodybuck21 said:
he's going to escape unscathed....hes a freaking vampire
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No, but close:

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Resemblance is uncanny, no?
 
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BuckeyeSoldier said:
You would absolutely destroy any parity, and risk crushing the sports popularity... in effect you would let a decades worth of kids make a lot of money before the money dried up and cost generations of kids the scholarships and education opportunities
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What parity?

UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Arizona, Kansas are generally getting top 5 classes every year.

It's not a coincidence.


The system as it is currently constructed is advantageous to everybody but the athlete. It's ludicrous. So instead of "above the table" transparency, we'll settle for money laundering, AAU coach/runner brokered deals to schools, and the current "black market" that creates the situation Louisville finds itself in because they were the unlucky school to come up on a wire-tap.

I pointed it out before, but there was a specific reason Archie Miller was targeted by OSU boosters, and why Archie wanted the OSU job so bad. It's because Sean Miller at Arizona is so well connected at Nike, and it's become a spot kids are pushed too. Archie viewed the OSU job, through partnership with Nike, as a sleeping giant. And by partnership with Nike, I mean Nike doing similar things with basketball players going to Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, and Duke. Ohio State has the largest alumni base in the country.......you know who hated watching Ohio State basketball plummet more than anybody? Nike.

And let's be honest....you have 2 major sports (NCAA Basketball and Football) that create the necessary money to fund non-revenue generating sports. Of those two sports, you'd certainly see players paid to sign with specific schools (that already happens through back channels) but where you'd see real wealth being developed is by guys who get on campus and make a name for themselves. So locally, kids could do autograph signings, local dealership commercials, NIKE/Adidas advertising, etc.

Right now in college football we have the same 4-5 teams entering the season on top based on talent/recruiting (Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Florida State). Allowing local businesses or athletic brands to pay kids isn't something that alters that top echelon of schools IMO. Very quickly those investing money are going to realize the bust rate of top prospects, so for every $200,000 you invest in a Cam Newton, you're wasting $200,000 on a Seantrel Henderson. And it's already happening anyways (Ole Miss anyone?) so just bring it above board.......

It should be a fair market. And if a local business wants the endorsement of a Maya Moore or Candice Parker more power to them. It absolves the NCAA of Title IX because the free market is dictating endorsement money, and allows the kids to make what market price is on them. It's so simple it drives me crazy.....
 
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dragurd said:
Will it matter if he's not fired if the NCAA nukes the program from orbit for a year or two? And let's be honest if the NCAA if the 6 figure payments to 3 recruits is proven and the NCAA doesn't nuke them from orbit for at least a year the NCAA no longer serves a purpose to exist.
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You've got more faith in the NCAA than I do.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
You've got more faith in the NCAA than I do.
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I don't see how they continue to argue they have a purpose if they don't deal with Louisville very harshly. This is literally what they exist to stop.Pay for play if they let this go with a slap on the wrist what is the purpose of the NCAA at that point and why should the schools continue to let it take all that basketball tournament money if it does nothing?
 
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Not sure the logic holds, if Nike is driving the decisions, why was OSU down in the first place? And lets say for argument's sake Kobe Simmons is an example of improper influence, but why would Nike steer a kid away from OSU to go to Arizona? It looks like there is more sleaze connected with adidas AAU programs than anything, I will say that.

billmac91 said:
What parity?

UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Arizona, Kansas are generally getting top 5 classes every year.

It's not a coincidence.


The system as it is currently constructed is advantageous to everybody but the athlete. It's ludicrous. So instead of "above the table" transparency, we'll settle for money laundering, AAU coach/runner brokered deals to schools, and the current "black market" that creates the situation Louisville finds itself in because they were the unlucky school to come up on a wire-tap.

I pointed it out before, but there was a specific reason Archie Miller was targeted by OSU boosters, and why Archie wanted the OSU job so bad. It's because Sean Miller at Arizona is so well connected at Nike, and it's become a spot kids are pushed too. Archie viewed the OSU job, through partnership with Nike, as a sleeping giant. And by partnership with Nike, I mean Nike doing similar things with basketball players going to Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, and Duke. Ohio State has the largest alumni base in the country.......you know who hated watching Ohio State basketball plummet more than anybody? Nike.

And let's be honest....you have 2 major sports (NCAA Basketball and Football) that create the necessary money to fund non-revenue generating sports. Of those two sports, you'd certainly see players paid to sign with specific schools (that already happens through back channels) but where you'd see real wealth being developed is by guys who get on campus and make a name for themselves. So locally, kids could do autograph signings, local dealership commercials, NIKE/Adidas advertising, etc.

Right now in college football we have the same 4-5 teams entering the season on top based on talent/recruiting (Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Florida State). Allowing local businesses or athletic brands to pay kids isn't something that alters that top echelon of schools IMO. Very quickly those investing money are going to realize the bust rate of top prospects, so for every $200,000 you invest in a Cam Newton, you're wasting $200,000 on a Seantrel Henderson. And it's already happening anyways (Ole Miss anyone?) so just bring it above board.......

It should be a fair market. And if a local business wants the endorsement of a Maya Moore or Candice Parker more power to them. It absolves the NCAA of Title IX because the free market is dictating endorsement money, and allows the kids to make what market price is on them. It's so simple it drives me crazy.....
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DZ83CK said:
Not sure the logic holds, if Nike is driving the decisions, why was OSU down in the first place? And lets say for argument's sake Kobe Simmons is an example of improper influence, but why would Nike steer a kid away from OSU to go to Arizona? It looks like there is more sleaze connected with adidas AAU programs than anything, I will say that.
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You mean the shoe company that just celebrated passing Jordan Brand as the #2 shoe apparel company?
 
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