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Rick Nash has really blossomed and is considered maybe the best hockey player in the world right now, something amazing for a 20 year old.
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Fri, May 6, 2005 <!--date ends here-->

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Nash is Canada's future

Young forward dazzles at world championship

[/size]<!-- BYLINE GOES UNDER HERE -->By Terry Jones
INNSBRUCK, Austria -- When you've seen it before with a guy who wore a couple of nines on his back, you don't dare suggest you'll ever see anything remotely resembling it again.

I'm not, but we're seeing something here. We're seeing something very special.

We're watching Rick Nash become a fully accredited NHL mega-star right here in front of the world's eyes. These days they are sore eyes and whenever the league returns, maybe they'll take his talent away, clutch, grab, trap and smother him to death so he won't be able to put on the spine-tingling show he's putting on at so far at the IIHF World Championship.

He's doing it here.

Oh, how he's doing it here.

Nash scored two more world class, highlight reel goals, his fifth and sixth of the tournament, and set up Joe Thornton for another, to grab a big game by the throat and defeat the USA 3-1 here last night.

As player after player spoke with reporters after the game, they lined up to be quoted on the subject of the young sensation of the nation.

"He's a great player," said Doug Weight.

"He's 20 years old and we can all see here that he's ready to establish himself at a high level. He'll be a player for Team Canada for many more years. I don't think anybody would have predicted how quickly he'd reach the level we're seeing him play at here so far."

Canada's players liked him even better.

"It's really exciting to see him doing what he's doing here. It's fun seeing the next generation of Canadians right now," said Kris Draper.

"He's a world class hockey player who loves to play the game and is in the zone right now. He just loves what he's doing. The guy is going to be unbelievable."

Brodeur says there are two things he likes about Nash: 1. What he's doing here. 2. That he plays for Columbus.

"It's kinda nice he plays out West. We don't see him that much," said the New Jersey Devils netminder.

There's another thing, says Brodeur.

"He's willing to pay the price," he said of the tough going. "That's a great quality you don't often see in a young player."

Linemate Simon Gagne says you almost want to stop and watch him.

"It's unbelievable the way he's just flying. He has wings on his skates."

PUTS HIMSELF IN POSITION

Thornton, who with eight points is tied for the tournament scoring lead with his linemate, says he marvels most at how Nash puts himself in position to score the gorgeous goals we've seen him score here.

"He's just so lengthy," says Thornton. "Those long strides he takes ... and he takes up a lot of space. Once he gets in on a defender that big bum of his is going to come in there and then there's not much chance to stop him."

On Nash's first goal, which gave Canada a 1-0 lead just 51 seconds into the second period, he banged the puck off the side of the net up into the air, batted it down, turned around and caught the corner.

After Mike Knuble evened the score, Nash broke in with Thornton two-on-one, had the presence to check behind him, then went backhand to forehand and roofed it. He did everything but autograph the puck before he put it in.

If you count the 26 goals he scored in the regular season and eight in the playoffs in the Swiss league and now six in three games here, that's 40 goals in 60 games.

"I didn't realize that. That's kind of cool," said the kid.

In an 82-game NHL season, he scored 41 last year to win the Rocket Richard Trophy as the league's top scorer. His total represented 22% of all Columbus goals. The native of Brampton, Ont., is up to 36% of Team Canada's goals so far in this tournament.

"It's unbelievable. Obviously it feels good," said Nash of living this moment.

"Playing in Davos this year, I think, really is helping here. With Joe in Davos with me, we're just continuing."

It's not lost on him that this is his coming out party and that he, Thornton and the young breed on this team, are going to be the staples of many a Team Canada.

"We're very fortunate we're showing the future. Obviously we're going from Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman and Wayne Gretzky to a new generation coming in."

Tell me, no matter what happens with the lockout, that you don't want to watch Rick Nash play for Canada in Turin.
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It'd be nice if the Blue Jackets could surround this kid with some quality talent. I was shocked at how big the hockey team was when I went back to C-Bus in 2001 (I moved out of C-Bus in '98 before the team ever played a game). I don't know what the city's take on the NHL is now with the Lockout going on.

From what little I've seen of Nash, he seems like a big kid (a Linebacker on skates) with that goal scoring knack. Definately a great guy to build an expansion team around.

He was the 1st pick in the NHL Draft, was he not? I know he was way up there when Columbus picked him: 1, 2, or 3.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
He was the 1st pick in the NHL Draft, was he not? I know he was way up there when Columbus picked him: 1, 2, or 3.
I believe that they traded up to the #1 spot to take Nash. They didn't have to give much up to get the pick either.
 
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Nash is amazing, but did anyone see the hi-lites from the world championships where he was hooking the ref (on purpose), then nailed the linesman as he turned around(not on purpose). Those refs were pretty kind cuz they should have booted him, but for some reason didn't. He definitely needs to show a bit more maturity, but at 20 I'll cut him a bit of slack.
 
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He's a great goal scorer, but he should never be mentioned in the same breath as Lemieux, Yzerman and Gretzky as the last quoted paragraph infers. The really great players in the league will always have more assists than goals.

At this point in his career he has 58G and 38A. He had a little better cast last season than his rookie season so to only have 16 assists is very alarming.
 
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No matter how bad the team, being 8th on the team in assists is pathetic.
Maybe a better comparison would be a young Brett Hull. But even Hull was a decent passer early in his career.
 
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But if he's the one scoring all the goals then obviously everyone else is going to get the assists. Would you pass if you were far and away the best scoring option? I wouldn't/don't. To whom is he going to pass? For all we know his coach could have said, "Nash, you're the balls, if you've got a shot, take it, you are our best option." Now I'm not from the Columbus area so I've only seen his nightly hi-lite reel goals, so maybe people were sitting on the doorstep with a wide open net during the course of the game/season. In that case, yes pass the puck. I'm sure if he gets a decent line he'll pass more.
 
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thenumber7: "Brutus, he's pretty much the only person on that team! I did some rough math during last season and he was accounting for like 40% of their goal scoring. That is ridiculous."

The state of his team doesn't matter. In '88-89, Mario Lemieux racked up 85 Goals & 114 Assists (199 Points!) for a last-place Pittsburgh team. There was no Jagr, Stevens, Francis, etc. on that team.

In Lemieux's rookie season, he scored 43 goals & 57 Assists (100 points) and was minus-35 for the season! That should tell you how bad that team was ('cept for him, of course).
 
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There is no questioning his talent. But, when the NHL does get back on the ice, teams will pay all of the attention to Nash, knowing if they stop him he won't beat them with a pass. Hopefully, he'll learn to pass the biscuit because he can be a great player for the Jackets. I just think the truely great players in the league look to pass first and shoot second.
 
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Brutus1: "I just think the truely great players in the league look to pass first and shoot second."

I think you're assessment is pretty much dead-on. However, if the Blue Jackets (or Silverbacks, whatever the heck their name is) can acquire a Ron Francis-like playmaking Center to set up this kid on the Power Play and score the occasional goal, they won't need Nash to rack up a ton of assists.

I also think its going to be tough for NHL teams to key on this kid because of his size. He can pretty much go where he wants to on the ice. And I don't even think he can drink legally yet (is he 21?).
 
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Sloopy, you are kind of comparing apples to oranges here, and your facts aren't completely correct. First off, comparing Nash to SuperMario is sort of unfair because of Mario's greatness, but because I like a good sports arguement, I am going to continue.

According to the Penguins website the 88-89 Penguins were 2nd in the Patrick Division and went to the playoffs so they were decent. I couldn't find the roster for that season, but when they score 347 goals people are going to get points (as opposed to the 177 goals CBJ scored last year). I also figure with that many goals the Penguins were juuust a bit better.

That brings me to my next point: the league is completely different nowadays. There was no trap, the talent pool wasn't spread paper-thin, and the goalies weren't as technically trained as they are now. Plus Mario was a center, who is supposed to pass, while wingers are supposed to score.

Also, I'm assuming Nash was on the same line as Vyborny (W), Marchant (C), and Ericsson (D), who were 1, 2, and 3 in assists respectively last year (31A, 25A, 20A). When it seems to me that the offense is geared to getting you the puck I don't think you are as likely to pass. In addition, he is like a young Hull (I agree with you Brutus) because he has a wicked shot.

Should he pass more? Probably. I'm just saying for a 2nd year player, in a defensive league (league leader for pts last year was 94? 96?) with a not-very-talented-team that is geared to getting him the puck, the stats aren't surprising. Again, if players around him were better maybe he would pass, but we'll never now until the league stops being selfish, contracts, and re-opens as the amazing sub 30-team-league it used to be (early 90's).

One other thing: overall both Nash and Mario accounted for about the same % (~24%) of the team's overall goal output for the respective seasons in question. So Sloopy your point is taken, though I think the comparison is a bit weak for reasons stated above.

Damn, the playoffs would be on right now, i miss hockey!
 
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