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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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sandgk;1072185; said:
Charleston Gazette - Hickman article - A very even handed assessment of timelines, assignment of blame, truth lies and videotape if you will. Long read. Page 3 is probably the best written part.
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Interesting article. Couple issues though.

One, Hickman claims there was only a three-hour window (1:30, when RR held the meeting with his team, to 4:30, when Magee took off for Ann Arbor) for Magee to have been told whatever it was he was told. As has been discussed here in excruciating detail, RR had for all intents and purposes quit by no later than 10:00 when he called Terrelle Pryor. Besides - RR talked to the AD twice the day before, and it's always been my contention they did not discuss the weather and the crops. Rumors were swirling all day that Saturday - if the press had picked up on it, surely it was also the talk of the WVU offices that RR might be leaving. I think Magee, if he really did have a racial-overtones conversation with a WVU admin, could have had that conversation at any time Saturday or Sunday. Not just a three-hour window from one of two pointy-hairs.

Two, Hickman paints WVU as taking the high road by merely doing their due diligence in suing RR. He claims "anything else would have been negligent" because they sued "when the deadline had passed for the first payment." I'd expect better from a print columnist (then again, Jenni Carlson is a print columnist.) The deadline wasn't til January 16 at the earliest - the school slapped down the lawsuit three weeks before then.
 
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HailToMichigan;1072293; said:
I'd expect better from a print columnist (then again, Jenni Carlson is a print columnist.)
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We'll need factual proof to back up that assertion - something like Wiki would do. :biggrin:

(Otherwise I'll list Jenni with Oprah and her kin as chatty fashionistas and gossip mongers).
 
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HailToMichigan;1072293; said:
Two, Hickman paints WVU as taking the high road by merely doing their due diligence in suing RR. He claims "anything else would have been negligent" because they sued "when the deadline had passed for the first payment." I'd expect better from a print columnist (then again, Jenni Carlson is a print columnist.) The deadline wasn't til January 16 at the earliest - the school slapped down the lawsuit three weeks before then.
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I'm a bit fuzzy on the issue, but I think the original lawsuit wasn't to claim damages (money) but to determine the facts. RR claimed WVU breached the contract and WVU wanted it declared legally that such was not the case.

This latest suit is the one seeking damages (4 million), since RR failed to meet the first deadline for repaying the 4 mil (in 3 installments).

Splitting hairs I guess. Maybe one of the legal guys/gals can fill in the blanks here.
 
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From College Football News RR is one of the top three questionable or good hires according to the boys.



Scout.com: Tue. Question - Best & Curious Coaching Hires

Pete Fiutak

Rich Rodriguez, Michigan - Remember, as good as Rich Rod was at West Virginia, he failed to get the program over the hump and into the national title despite playing in the weakest of the BCS leagues and continually having one of the conference's strongest teams. Just winning the Big Ten isn't going to be enough, and no, just beating Ohio State isn't going to do the trick alone (although that will certainly help). Rodriguez has to put Michigan in the national championship on a semi-regular basis with anything less considered a failure. No pressure there. Considering the way things ended with West Virginia, the microscope will be on if anything goes slightly wrong, and he's going to need to fight through a potentially tough transition period before his new offense gets rolling at an elite level. He'll get one year to put the pieces in place, but that's it. This is Michigan. The supposed Leaders and the Best. It's not supposed to rebuild.

Matthew Zemek

3) Rich Rodriguez, Michigan. Could revolutionize the Big Ten. Could also blow up in the face of a proud university who has had high-character coaches for most of the past 39 seasons (if not more).

And John Harris thinks it is a good hire....

2. Michigan ? Rich Rodriguez. Sorry, West Virginia fans, but it?s obvious how good a coach he is with the backlash that transpired when Coach Rod departed for Ann Arbor. Just keep Pitt off the schedule and Michigan football will be fine.
 
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Matthew Zemek

3) Rich Rodriguez, Michigan. Could revolutionize the Big Ten. Could also blow up in the face of a proud university who has had high-character coaches for most of the past 39 seasons (if not more).
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I guess getting into a drunken altercation in a restaurant is considered "high-character"...
 
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Sports don't build character, they reveal it.

OCBucksFan;1067528; said:
Dear WVU

Now, I am not saying what DickWad did was right, quite the contrary, but I figure since your school recently had discovered running water I would introduce you to something new. It's called electricity, with electricity you can get these new fangled boxes that can store your information. Most of the country calls them "computers" but that's going to have too many letters for you folks to spell, so let's just call them box thingies. Most universities have used a system where they can store copies off all of their documents on these box thingies so that there isn't just a single copy in some guys office. So you understand, a copy is a second copy of the same piece of paper, it looks exactly the same, and no, having your brother/dad try to draw it to look the same won't work. Now please, with your advancements in learning cursive writing and the ability to bathe without having to jump in the river, please look into this electricity thing so that this won't ever happen again.

Maybe next year we'll introduce you to dentistry, but I don't want to go too far over your heads, the average 4 teeth each of you have is fine for now, I mean, how tough can eating road kill be?

Sincerely
The civilized world.
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__:tongue2: I see your location is listed as KINDERGARTEN. I can see why. How many years have you been there? Apparently many since your permanent residence is listed as such. And despite pinheads with your mentality, we West Virginians won't generalize your general population as having the same immature views that you do. We will continue to support the Buckeyes, especially when they meet U of M. GO :osu:!
 
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Gr8DayInWV;1072664; said:
__:tongue2: I see your location is listed as KINDERGARTEN. I can see why. How many years have you been there? Apparently many since your permanent residence is listed as such. And despite pinheads with your mentality, we West Virginians won't generalize your general population as having the same immature views that you do. We will continue to support the Buckeyes, especially when they meet U of M. GO :osu:!
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:tibor::p
 
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Gr8DayInWV;1072664; said:
__:tongue2: I see your location is listed as KINDERGARTEN. I can see why. How many years have you been there? Apparently many since your permanent residence is listed as such. And despite pinheads with your mentality, we West Virginians won't generalize your general population as having the same immature views that you do. We will continue to support the Buckeyes, especially when they meet U of M. GO :osu:!
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Your response tells me that:

A) West Virgina does indeed have electricity.
B) There are those "box thingies" out there.

So... I am going to go out on a limb here and say that a major university should have students records stored in a data format, yes?
 
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3yardsandacloud;1072317; said:
I'm a bit fuzzy on the issue, but I think the original lawsuit wasn't to claim damages (money) but to determine the facts. RR claimed WVU breached the contract and WVU wanted it declared legally that such was not the case.

This latest suit is the one seeking damages (4 million), since RR failed to meet the first deadline for repaying the 4 mil (in 3 installments).

Splitting hairs I guess. Maybe one of the legal guys/gals can fill in the blanks here.
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I believe they filed the original suit when they did in attempt to have the proceedings take place in WV courts and not federal by filing before RRod was able to move. It ended up getting kicked to federal anyways.
 
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Wingate1217;1072595; said:
And John Harris thinks it is a good hire....

2. Michigan ? Rich Rodriguez. Sorry, West Virginia fans, but it?s obvious how good a coach he is with the backlash that transpired when Coach Rod departed for Ann Arbor. Just keep Pitt off the schedule and Michigan football will be fine.
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John, just extrapolate that out and bear with me a sec. Pitt is to WVU as ___ is to scUM? Who in the B10 could be scUM's biggest rival? Who is RR going to face in the last game of the year for all the marbles? I know your a sportswriter but this isn't that hard. Hint, their initials are O, S and U.

I'm also going to take a huge leap of logic here and venture that if RR has the same problems winning the big games at scUM that he did at WVU(USF, Pitt) then they are going to turn on him quicker than you can say Vichy.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1072628; said:
I guess getting into a drunken altercation in a restaurant is considered "high-character"...
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Fired him for it, didn't they?

(Rhetorical question. They did. No coach in the last 39 years has ever coached a game at Michigan following a drunken altercation in a restaurant. And we learned our lesson. Never again will we hire an OSU grad to coach the team :wink: )
 
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HailToMichigan;1072746; said:
Fired him for it, didn't they?

(Rhetorical question. They did. No coach in the last 39 years has ever coached a game at Michigan following a drunken altercation in a restaurant. And we learned our lesson. Never again will we hire an OSU grad to coach the team :wink: )
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It's understandable. You can just imagine the shame he felt. I mean, given every opportunity in life as an Ohio State grad and then ending up at TSUN. Would have driven a tee-totaller to drink.
 
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