Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

[808 Buck]

RichRod will have to tone down some of his recruiting tactics...when you are at a WVU, folks just kinda shake their heads when a few rules are [strike]blatantly broken[/strike] bent a tad...but when you are at a Michigan, well, those things happen to end up in the papers.

I sent out a PM about this time last year dealing with RR and recruiting...someone might still have it.

There is a huge difference between recruiting at WVU and the Harvard of the Midwest (is that UM or Notre Dame?, I always mix that one up). I'm assuming that RR will have to target a different type of athlete than what he did at WVU. The academic standards at UM may be a little tougher. There were/are certain guys that he could get into West Virginia, that had little chance to qualify for Ann Arbor. What also will be interesting to watch is who RR hires as assistants and coordinators. There may be a new breed of "Michigan Men" a-comin'.

Some of the shots at RR do seem a bit premature.

Just trying to beat the Christmas rush.

 

[Pheasant]

What does this do to Ron English?

 

[HailToMichigan]

Maybe because of the mammoth they got at quarterback.Not to mention they are limited on good recievers

You don't need a running quarterback to run the spread. Texas Tech manages. Mallett exclusively ran the shotgun in high school so I'm sure he'll be fine.

And I don't think good receivers are in short supply either. Even assuming Manningham goes, next year there will be Mathews, Hemingway, and Stonum.

 

[sandgk]

If R-Rod did in fact call Pryor this morning, which was within a quiet period, I wish the NCAA would quickly react to a recruiting violation by stating that a team coached by Rodriguez is no longer an option for Pryor. To me, that's a way of making the penalty fit the violation.

Hey, I'm consistent - I had the same stance regarding Joe McKnight and USC last year ater he had apparently received phone calls that weren't permissable under NCAA regulations (allegedly made by Reggie Bush).

I know this will never happen - the NCAA would have to act quickly and logically, a near-impossible combination for them.

Wonder what the WV folks would do with that knowledge - honestly, the game of connect the dots with issue of NCAA rules compliance and Rodriguez Sunday morning call to Pryor hadn't been raised there earlier.

Is there a whistleblower line a concerned BB73 can use?

 

[jwinslow]

If R-Rod did in fact call Pryor this morning, which was within a quiet period, I wish the NCAA would quickly react to a recruiting violation by stating that a team coached by Rodriguez is no longer an option for Pryor. To me, that's a way of making the penalty fit the violation.

FWIW, quick google search revealed

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2007-08 Division I Football. Recruiting Calendar. Sun. Mon. Tue. Wed. Thu. Fri. Sat. Contact period: December 1 - 15. Quiet period: December 16. Dead period: December 17-31.
www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2007-08/07_DI_Football_Color.pdf

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[Bucksfan4life]

You don't need a running quarterback to run the spread. Texas Tech manages. Mallett exclusively ran the shotgun in high school so I'm sure he'll be fine.

And I don't think good receivers are in short supply either. Even assuming Manningham goes, next year there will be Mathews, Hemingway, and Stonum.

The keyword is HIGH SCHOOL.

 

[Pheasant]

The keyword is HIGH SCHOOL.

Ummm, isn't that where all college QB's play before they go to college?
I think I don't understand your post.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

He owes WVU nothing? This is the University that gave him a substantional raise as well as new facilities now and in the future when he went courting Alabama last year.

So? RR doesn't work at WVU any longer, so now WVU doesn't have to pay out on that raise. And of course, the new facilities will benefit the next coach just as much as the last....

The lack of class and integrity is the POINT right now in college football because if the last few weeks have shown us anything, it's that coaches don't have to have any morals, just follow the almighty dollar.

Everyone who works is in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

Let's remember these coaches are supposed to be shaping these student athletes, if this is the example the coaches are going to set how do you think their players are going to turn out.

No, coaches are supposed to win football games.

Let's not lose sight of the big picture here, these men are mentors and in alot of cases father figures.

The big picture is to win football games.

They need to be held to some kind of standard.

The "standard" is the "contract". Apparently, RR didn't breach his contract with WVU, so what's the problem?

How is saying you want to coach in the bowl game not showing integrity towards scUM?

RR works for UM, not WVU. Why would he want to coach WVU in their bowl game?

If anything, it only goes to prove that you will stick by your team when required.

Michigan is RR's team, and he is sticking by them by not coaching WVU in their bowl game.

Coaching the team this year is your job.

No - fulfilling the WVU contract was RR's job, and he did so, albeit with a buy out, which was in the contract and bargained for by both parties.

The entire mentality of the team is going to be shot. They are going to be down and RR's actions have a lot to do with it.

Yes, but so what? RR no longer works for WVU; his current job is to make a positive effect on the "mentality" of the Wolverines (and to win football games for UM).

The reason why I bring this up is because of all the scUM fans getting on their high horse about how their program has more "class". Just saying.

I can't argue with that point, but I really don't see the RR hire as lacking "class". It's just a reality in the big business world of college football.

 

[osugrad21]

You don't need a running quarterback to run the spread. Texas Tech manages. Mallett exclusively ran the shotgun in high school so I'm sure he'll be fine..

Some obviously missed your earlier point about the generalized terminology of the spread offense vs. spread option

Two completely different issues in terms of personnel.

 

[Bucksfan4life]

You don't need a running quarterback to run the spread. Texas Tech manages. Mallett exclusively ran the shotgun in high school so I'm sure he'll be fine.

And I don't think good receivers are in short supply either. Even assuming Manningham goes, next year there will be Mathews, Hemingway, and Stonum.

Read that.
Now i'll explain it
Mallet ran the shotgun in HIGH SCHOOL.This is college.Whole different game.What makes you think he'll manage just fine? Texas Tech has a freshman star that accumulated 1.800 yards.

 

[HailToMichigan]

I agree with the former poster that this parallels Callahan at Nebraska (system-wise). I don't think that this hire is going to bring scUM back up to their former glory any time soon.

This, I definitely disagree with. I thought about it at first too....dumping a tried-and-true system at a blue-blooded, tradition-rich program....it's a logical connection. But the difference to me is that Nebraska wasn't struggling in bowl games under Solich, and they weren't having tremendous difficulties beating their rivals, and there weren't signs that Nebraska's system was failing them. They hired an NFL guy who'd never been higher than a position coach in D-IA and it was a complete culture shock, and everyone was against the idea from Day One. At Michigan the "culture shock" is being welcomed, because we're tired of driving the F-150 to the drag race against the Camaros and Mustangs.

As for Pryor being no help to the defense....yeah. Hopefully RR can scrounge up a good defensive coordinator. (Tenuta? I can dream.) Maybe it'll help that the defense will be seeing the spread in practice now.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Mallet ran the shotgun in HIGH SCHOOL.This is college.Whole different game.

So his running the shotgun in high school in no way prepares him for it in college?

 

[Pheasant]

Read that.
Now i'll explain it
Mallet ran the shotgun in HIGH SCHOOL.This is college.Whole different game.

What are you talking about? Of course it's a different game. The point is that Mallet is prepared to run the offense because he ran a similar one before. Your point is that nothing that happened in high school matters because this is college? WTF is going on here?

 

[HailToMichigan]

Read that.
Now i'll explain it
Mallet ran the shotgun in HIGH SCHOOL.This is college.Whole different game.What makes you think he'll manage just fine?

Oh I dunno. Same reason I suppose that we get all excited about five-star recruits.

Texas Tech has a freshman star that accumulated 1.800 yards.

Whoa, you mean he did awesome in college even though it's a whole different game from the high school game he was just playing last year?

 

[Pheasant]

Oh I dunno. Same reason I suppose that we get all excited about five-star recruits.

Whoa, you mean he did awesome in college even though it's a whole different game from the high school game he was just playing last year?

Silly Michigan fan, you just don't get it.

On a related, but sad note: I gave the last one of his really, really stupid posts positive rep because I forgot to change it to disapprove :(