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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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jlb1705;2043568; said:
SI.com's Richard Dietsch on twitter:

http://t.co/29kWIxBX

And now a few words on Urban Meyer, the ESPN college football analyst:

I've been watching the Rich Rodriguez press conference today and at the top of the conference, Arizona AD Greg Byrne mentioned that he used Meyer as counsel for his hire. (Meyer told Byrne that Rodriguez was one of the five great minds in college football.)
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Maybe he meant mines?
 
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Deety;2044026; said:
Maybe he meant mines?
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jlb1705;2043568; said:
SI.com's Richard Dietsch on twitter:

http://t.co/29kWIxBX

And now a few words on Urban Meyer, the ESPN college football analyst:

I've been watching the Rich Rodriguez press conference today and at the top of the conference, Arizona AD Greg Byrne mentioned that he used Meyer as counsel for his hire. (Meyer told Byrne that Rodriguez was one of the five great minds in college football.)
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Discuss.
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Couldn't he have shared this insight with Penn State instead?
 
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alexhortdog95;2044212; said:
I think that Rich Rod is a great coach. His problem was that he went to TSUN. If he goes anywhere else, he's still coaching.
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If by that you mean he went to a major D1 program where RR's mid major mind set won't work, then I agree with you.

If you are implying there is something special about tsun (in a good way) then you can eat a bag of dicks (that is of course for this week. Any other time no big deal-I'll reserve the bag o dicks for our visitors from up north).
 
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alexhortdog95;2044212; said:
I think that Rich Rod is a great coach. His problem was that he went to TSUN. If he goes anywhere else, he's still coaching.
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Great? Eh, not so much.

Head coach? Nope, because as head coach you have to concentrate on both sides of the ball, and DickRod didn't give two shits for defense.

Offensive Coordinator? Yeah, more his speed.

Honestly, he got a bum wrap at UM due to some in the admin being against him from day one, but he still should have won more games than he did if he would have put half of an effort into the defensive side of the ball.
 
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buxfan4life;2044227; said:
Great? Eh, not so much.

Head coach? Nope, because as head coach you have to concentrate on both sides of the ball, and DickRod didn't give two [Mark May]s for defense.

Offensive Coordinator? Yeah, more his speed.

Honestly, he got a bum wrap at UM due to some in the admin being against him from day one, but he still should have won more games than he did if he would have put half of an effort into the defensive side of the ball.
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Perhaps you missed it. He's going to the PAC.
 
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Dryden;2043701; said:
In 1999 Urban Meyer (then Notre Dame's WR coach) and Dan Mullen (then a ND GA) drove to Louisville to meet Scott Linehan and (oh yes!) John L Smith to learn some spread concepts since Louisville was shredding defenses back then. They were so impressed by John L Smith they wound up extending the trip.

Meyer and Mullen stole everything they liked and created 'their own' version of the spread which they proposed to Bob Davie. Davie was reluctant to install it during the '99 season, but they did work towards melding some of Meyer's and Mullen's concepts into the offense for 2000. The turning point for Meyer was when Notre Dame lost in OT to Nebraska (ranked #1 at the time) in 2000. ND WR David Givens went to Meyer after the game crying -- literally in tears because he didn't touch the ball once. Meyer took responsibility for it and claimed it was his own fault for not finding other ways to get Givens the ball.

After that season Meyer and Mullen went off to visit with Randy Walker and Kevin Wilson to find out more about the Northwestern offense that had just won the Big Ten. A lot of people forget how ridiculous Kustok and Damien Anderson were in 2000 (I want to say Kustok had something like 3,000 yards of total offense and around 30 TDs in 2000). That could have been a great team if they had a defense, particularly a defense that got the offense more possessions. Meyer and Mullen also visited Joe Tiller at Purdue.

That was the offense Josh Harris ran at BGSU in 2002.

Between the 2002 & 2003 seasons when Meyer went on to Utah, he spent a lengthy amount of time studying in West Virginia under Rodriguez, who had also done some of the same research Meyer & Mullen did and similarly wound up with a variation of Randy Walker & Kevin Wilson's offense. Rich Rod at that point had made zone-read shotgun-triple his base offense, which had resulted in the 2002 WVU offense finishing second in the nation at 283 rush ypg (behind Air Force, ahead of Navy and Nebraska).

That was what Meyer began running with Alex Smith in 2003 & 04.

Kevin Wilson, of course, is now the head coach of Indiana, having been the OC of some decent 'multiple' spread offenses at Oklahoma from 2002-2010.
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Amazing how closely intertwined some of these guys are.
 
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matcar;2044338; said:
Amazing how closely intertwined some of these guys are.
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There is a Montana St/Idaho/Fresno St overlap with a coaching tree that includes all of the following:

Jim Sweeney
Dennis Erickson
Mike Martz
Joe Tiller
Keith Gilbertson
John L Smith
Scott Linehan
 
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