Recruiter129
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JT and a few Buckeye's have backed RR, this so called "investigation" wont last long.
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as usual, you're late and a little off. the "investigation" won't last long because you can't really prove or disprove anything. it has nothing to do with what JT and other players have to say.
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Recruiter129;1527543; said:
Nothing will ever change the fact your coach cried like a bitch during a press conference......again.
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Recruiter129
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Jaxbuck;1527560; said:
Cried like a bitch is alittle over exaggerating.
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Recruiter129
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Michael Rosenberg took the words of two freshman and put them in his own context, even Tony Clemmons doesn't want to be responsible for his words (link on GBW). Craig Roh's dad was even nice enough to post on GBW and heres what he had to say.
I am Craig Roh's dad and had the pleasure of experiencing first-hand the recruiting process and first summer with the UM program. I feel obligated to share with readers concrete evidence of the integrity and compliance of the Rich Rod program and staff. My son chose UM because it is one of the few schools in the country that has great football AND academics. He could have gone to UCLA, Cal, Stanford, USC..all great academic schools and he chose Michigan because it had the best of both.
He also selected UM because of the intensity and straight talk of the coaching staff. The first person he met was Mike Barwis. After spending an hour with Barwis, Craig turned to me and said, "He will make me the best I can be. That's what I want." When he met Rich Rod, he was further impressed with his openness and vision. Craig came here BECAUSE of the work ethic that was to be required of him. He WANTS to be pushed to the limits, not coddled and pampered.
He was recruited by Tony Dews. I am here to say that Coach Dews complied with every letter of the rules throughout the entire recruitment process, even the ones that seem senseless. He would not even give me a ride to lunch or pick up a $5 lunch tab because it was against the rules. He informed us of the recruiting rules over and over again. As I watched 35 schools recruit my son, I would put Michigan at the top of the integrity scale when it came to recruiting.
Let's talk about Craig's first summer. Again, Coach Dews made it abundantly clear what we had to pay for and what the school was allowed to pay for, what our responsiblities were and what the school's were. I was tired of hearing about all the rules. It was like dealing with the IRS. There was NO push to report to school early, in fact we were told that if craig wanted to report to summer school early, it was on his dime and totally voluntary. Craig's summer was very balanced. He VOLUNTARILY asked to watch tape as much as he could. Nobody pushed him to do it or even suggested it. He had more free time than he wanted.
Lastly, I know for a fact that Craig missed workouts in the summer and even missed parts of at least three practices at camp so that he could attend class. He was excused with absolutely no repercussions by the coaching staff.
I am assuming that players who choose to come to UM under Rich Rod are coming here BECAUSE its hard. They want to become the best. They want to be pushed. They want great academics and great football environment. I detest the accusations made by the Freep. They think they are doing these kids a favor by easing up the workload and, in reality, they are undermining the very reason the kids chose UM!
Fred Roh
I am Craig Roh's dad and had the pleasure of experiencing first-hand the recruiting process and first summer with the UM program. I feel obligated to share with readers concrete evidence of the integrity and compliance of the Rich Rod program and staff. My son chose UM because it is one of the few schools in the country that has great football AND academics. He could have gone to UCLA, Cal, Stanford, USC..all great academic schools and he chose Michigan because it had the best of both.
He also selected UM because of the intensity and straight talk of the coaching staff. The first person he met was Mike Barwis. After spending an hour with Barwis, Craig turned to me and said, "He will make me the best I can be. That's what I want." When he met Rich Rod, he was further impressed with his openness and vision. Craig came here BECAUSE of the work ethic that was to be required of him. He WANTS to be pushed to the limits, not coddled and pampered.
He was recruited by Tony Dews. I am here to say that Coach Dews complied with every letter of the rules throughout the entire recruitment process, even the ones that seem senseless. He would not even give me a ride to lunch or pick up a $5 lunch tab because it was against the rules. He informed us of the recruiting rules over and over again. As I watched 35 schools recruit my son, I would put Michigan at the top of the integrity scale when it came to recruiting.
Let's talk about Craig's first summer. Again, Coach Dews made it abundantly clear what we had to pay for and what the school was allowed to pay for, what our responsiblities were and what the school's were. I was tired of hearing about all the rules. It was like dealing with the IRS. There was NO push to report to school early, in fact we were told that if craig wanted to report to summer school early, it was on his dime and totally voluntary. Craig's summer was very balanced. He VOLUNTARILY asked to watch tape as much as he could. Nobody pushed him to do it or even suggested it. He had more free time than he wanted.
Lastly, I know for a fact that Craig missed workouts in the summer and even missed parts of at least three practices at camp so that he could attend class. He was excused with absolutely no repercussions by the coaching staff.
I am assuming that players who choose to come to UM under Rich Rod are coming here BECAUSE its hard. They want to become the best. They want to be pushed. They want great academics and great football environment. I detest the accusations made by the Freep. They think they are doing these kids a favor by easing up the workload and, in reality, they are undermining the very reason the kids chose UM!
Fred Roh
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No, he and others interviewed a number of players who admitted the extra hours they put in.
Grad is right, this is a mountain out of a molehill, and something that is done all over. But that doesn't mean you can pretend that this was fiction, when it was merely overboard on Rosenberg's behalf.
He's shutting up after the blowback from his comments. That doesn't make them false.
Please use the search function. It takes 5 seconds to search for 'roh' in this thread.
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Recruiter129
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jwinslow;1527566; said:
He interviewed two players Stokes being one of them not sure who the other was that was already confirmed.
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Recruiter129;1527564; said:
No actually its not.
Saying you are only mildly retarded is exaggerating.
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The point is there have been far more than two sources on this issue and more than enough accounts to back it up. Ask someone off the record from any program and you'll get the same answer.
It's a frivolous topic to use for his scandal, but that doesn't make it false.
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Why fans of tsun feel the need to go on a rivals board and defend their dopey coach is beyond me. Seems totally pointless.
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smithlabs
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I think the real issue isn't about the extra hours in practice. I think Slicky Dicky is probably a good enough lawyer to blur the line between voluntary and practice. The issue, IMHO, is that a significant (~10) felt bad enough about their team with no recourse that they brought about these allegations. The team chemistry has to be pretty poor for that to happen.
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Look who's defending TSUN...
Ohio State players say if their rivals at Michigan are putting in extra time, they're not alone.
So are the Buckeyes. And so is any team, they say, that wants to be any good.
Michigan's coaching staff has been accused by a handful of current and former players -- all speaking anonymously -- of pushing too hard and forcing them to put in too many hours.
Welcome to the club, say Buckeye players.
(continues at ESPiN)
Ohio State players say if their rivals at Michigan are putting in extra time, they're not alone.
So are the Buckeyes. And so is any team, they say, that wants to be any good.
Michigan's coaching staff has been accused by a handful of current and former players -- all speaking anonymously -- of pushing too hard and forcing them to put in too many hours.
Welcome to the club, say Buckeye players.
(continues at ESPiN)
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