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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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zincfinger;1518073; said:
I won't pretend to have an answer to that question, but I will say that individual stories like this will yield a huge amount of variation, from person-to-person. In the past month, I've talked to a couple of UM alums/UM football fans, and both of their views were decidedly more negative than what you've described. Overall, it seems to me that UM fan views of Rodriguez fall into three general categories:

1) Rodriguez will soon dominate the BigTen, and likely win multiple national championships.
2) I'm nervous about what I've seen thus far, but still hopeful that Rodriguez will have UM playing at its traditional level (almost always contending for a conference title, occasionally contending for a national championship) soon.
3) I never liked this hire, I feel that last year's result supports me in that view, and I look forward to the next hire which I expect to be coming in 2-3 years after Rodriguez flames out.

I'd suspect that view 2 is the majority view, and that a large proportion of those who claim view 1 are actually closer to view 2.
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I'm some where between view 2 and 3. It was so weird last year because I got mad the first few loses and it bothered me like it always does. Toward the end of the year I just got used to it and expected them to lose. It didn't really bother me.

If Michigan sucks again this year, which is a big possibility, at least the basketball team looks good. So I got that to look forward to.
 
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zwem;1518416; said:
I'm some where between view 2 and 3. It was so weird last year because I got mad the first few loses and it bothered me like it always does. Toward the end of the year I just got used to it and expected them to lose. It didn't really bother me.

If Michigan sucks again this year, which is a big possibility, at least the basketball team looks good. So I got that to look forward to.
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Most logical past from a scUM fan I have seen in a while. :biggrin:

zwem, you are the scUM fan I feel bad for, as you are not of the arrogant "We are M*ch*g*n so bow to our superior intellect and athletic ability" type and deserve better than what that hillbilly asshole is doing to your program.
 
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First off, excellent responses, all, from both sides of the fence. When I hear what I heard Saturday it really makes me curious as to what other scUM fans think, and how other Buckeye fans view this.

zwem;1518416; said:
I'm some where between view 2 and 3. It was so weird last year because I got mad the first few loses and it bothered me like it always does. Toward the end of the year I just got used to it and expected them to lose. It didn't really bother me.

If Michigan sucks again this year, which is a big possibility, at least the basketball team looks good. So I got that to look forward to.
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This is more along the lines of how I figured most scUM fans would feel, and probably how I would feel if I were in their shoes. The aforementioned Michigan native seemed to take this approach last year. He did not appear to be bothered by losing because his expectations were low. However, I never grilled him on losing to Toledo or the 42-7 drubbing at the hands of tOSU. I haven't rubbed his nose in any of the tOSU victories or losses to Appy State over the past 8 years, and he is cool about that kind of stuff, too. However, he is also a throw-things-at-the-TV kind of fan, so I know deep down it bugged him. Due to his loss of patience with Carr, I figured he would have at least adopted your line of thinking.
 
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zwem;1518416; said:
I got mad the first few loses and it bothered me like it always does. Toward the end of the year I just got used to it and expected them to lose. It didn't really bother me.
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It took eight full seasons before my annual John Cooper-induced late season depression had morphed into outright apathy.

Rich Rod did that to your fanbase in just ten months!

Sweet.
 
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When Cooper was coach it was like it wasn't even Ohio State football. Guy never had the passion for the state or the program it seemed. He was almost like a hired gun. No investment. That may not be fair but that's what it seemed like to me.
 
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Just for the record, Cooper took over a program that was about to slip off to Palookaville and turned it around. Yes, the losses to Michigan pushed my buttons, but he brought talent BACK to OSU, recruiting across the nation and beat the living shit out of Notre Dame, TWICE! and should have had an NC after beating an undefeated ASU squad, ranked #1, in the Rose Bowl. finally, a good portion of the victory over Miami in 03 was the work of kids Cooper brought to Columbus.

As for Rich Rod, much the same can be said as for Cooper. Takes over a program that is slipping rapidly... and there the comparison ends. The talent isn't going the Ann Arbor, many of VIILloyd's boys have skipped town, and this years team will be lucky to go 500.
 
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cincibuck;1521375; said:
Just for the record, Cooper took over a program that was about to slip off to Palookaville and turned it around. Yes, the losses to Michigan pushed my buttons, but he brought talent BACK to OSU, recruiting across the nation and beat the living shit out of Notre Dame, TWICE! and should have had an NC after beating an undefeated ASU squad, ranked #1, in the Rose Bowl. finally, a good portion of the victory over Miami in 03 was the work of kids Cooper brought to Columbus.

As for Rich Rod, much the same can be said as for Cooper. Takes over a program that is slipping rapidly... and there the comparison ends. The talent isn't going the Ann Arbor, many of VIILloyd's boys have skipped town, and this years team will be lucky to go 500.
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ASU was actually #2 before that Rose Bowl. FSU was also undefeated and #1, but they lost their bowl [strike] later that [/strike] the next night in the rematch game to Florida, who got that shot at the MNC since the Rose Bowl hadn't yet joined in with the Bowl Alliance/Coalition to form the BCS.
 
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Big reason why I will always think highly of tOSU - that win over ASU made the next night in N'Awlins very special to me.

It's was like beating an undefeated Michigan in the National Title game by 32 to win it all. I think our beating UGA in 2002 was a pretty good payback for 1996.
 
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jimotis4heisman;1518210; said:
this is the worst hiring of a big ten institution since iu hired kelvin sanction. no idea why a program of such prestige would take a flier on a skeezball....
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Maybe the question to ask would be:

Who else was out there?

More importantly,

Who else was out there who actually wanted the job?

I seem to remember at least one major coach's preemptive "thanks, but no thanks" in the media after LLLLLloyd resigned.

In any case, RRod made one graceless, ugly exit from WVA. If this were 1950's Hollywood, TSUN would be Liz Taylor & RRod would be Eddie Fisher...and we elderly fans all know how Eddie's career tanked after that seedy liaison. :wink:
 
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