Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

[BB73]

What an asshole.

That's a rather harsh assessment of Reynaud.


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[NFBuck]

That's a rather harsh assessment of Reynaud.


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Guess I should've been clearer...what a Dick(Rod).:)

 

[Steve19]

Dispatch

Rich Rodriguez sat in the first row behind a basket in Crisler Arena for the Ohio State-Michigan basketball game Sunday, and the Wolverines' new football coach seemed genuinely excited by Michigan's upset victory.
But there were times when he appeared to be feverishly punching numbers on a cell phone -- on one occasion he stopped punching to raise a celebratory fist over a Michigan three-point play -- prompting a visiting reporter to ask whether he was sending text-messages to recruits.
"No, we're not allowed to do that," Rodriguez said. "If we were, I would have been."
Maybe he was texting Indiana basketball coach Kelvin Sampson?

Hard not to understand his excitement. Some of those bloody video games on cellphones these days appear to be very challenging.

 

[HailToMichigan]

What an asshole.

And people wonder why I think some of you guys are unnaturally predisposed to see everything RR does as the asshole thing to do. Somehow, doing less conditioning work at the end of the year when legs and bodies are getting tired out doesn't sound to me like very good conspiracy-theory type evidence.

And apparently, those of you who might feel like your hatred is waning and maybe RR isn't such a bad guy after all can go read Bob Hunter for a pick-me-up. Only in Columbus would a columnist take any opportunity he can to link RR's name to whatever infamous coaching fiasco sounds convenient.

 

[NFBuck]

And people wonder why I think some of you guys are unnaturally predisposed to see everything RR does as the asshole thing to do.

You don't think half-assing things as your team (yes, it was still his team) prepares for their biggest game of the year while secretly negotiating your exit is an asshole thing to do? That's just fucking over the kids for his own selfish ass. I'm sure just about any impartial fan given that scenario (leave the names out if you wish) would say it's a dick move.

If you have such a hard time reading us point out what a fuckwad he is, may I suggest another self-imposed ban? Yes, we are pre-disposed to hate your coach, but the way this shit stain has gone about things has made it infinately easier. Read back before his hiring, he didn't have many fans here then either.

 

[osugrad21]

And apparently, those of you who might feel like your hatred is waning and maybe RR isn't such a bad guy after all can go read Bob Hunter for a pick-me-up. Only in Columbus would a columnist take any opportunity he can to link RR's name to whatever infamous coaching fiasco sounds convenient.

Not true...it happens outside of Columbus.

If you need an example, go read some of the garbage GBW produces. Between BretgoBlow and Tom Beaver, they hand out just as much bullshit allegations without a grain of proof.

However, continue your martyr mission...

 

[Steve19]

And people wonder why I think some of you guys are unnaturally predisposed to see everything RR does as the asshole thing to do. Somehow, doing less conditioning work at the end of the year when legs and bodies are getting tired out doesn't sound to me like very good conspiracy-theory type evidence.

And apparently, those of you who might feel like your hatred is waning and maybe RR isn't such a bad guy after all can go read Bob Hunter for a pick-me-up. Only in Columbus would a columnist take any opportunity he can to link RR's name to whatever infamous coaching fiasco sounds convenient.

OK. You got me. I get up in the morning and my first thought is, "how in the heck can I disparage that nice Mr Rod fellow?"

And how dare one of his former players feel any degree of resentment or notice that his coach appeared to lose interest? It's not like RR promised them anything or left them before a BCS Bowl or anything...oh, my bad...

As Grad21 said, feel free to continue with the martyr role. In the interim, here's an exercise that would benefit you.

Pretend for a moment that the coach of Ohio State, USC, Penn State, Notre Dame, you pick your poison, did what RR did to his players. Then, look closely at how Sampson was unable to stop himself from repeating his problems, despite knowing he was under such scrutiny.

Now, ask yourself, who is the one looking through the colored lenses? Be careful what you wish for HTM, you got him.

 

[jwinslow]

And people wonder why I think some of you guys are unnaturally predisposed to see everything RR does as the asshole thing to do. Somehow, doing less conditioning work at the end of the year when legs and bodies are getting tired out doesn't sound to me like very good conspiracy-theory type evidence.

Sorry, but at this point you've made it clear that you are unnaturally predisposed to overlook virtually anything he does.

This is one of your weakest excuses yet. Reynaud is a veteran to wvu, rrod, and bcs bowl prep. I think he'd know what he's talking about, no?

And apparently, those of you who might feel like your hatred is waning and maybe RR isn't such a bad guy after all can go read Bob Hunter for a pick-me-up. Only in Columbus would a columnist take any opportunity he can to link RR's name to whatever infamous coaching fiasco sounds convenient.

Greg doyel does this all year long. His latest revelation was that tressel secured posey thanks in part to a silly school fundraiser. Good thing USC didn't offer a black tie catered event

 

[ChisAto]

You don't think half-assing things as your team (yes, it was still his team) prepares for their biggest game of the year while secretly negotiating your exit is an asshole thing to do?

If you are saying that their bowl game against Oklahoma was the biggest game of the year then ignore what this super long explanation, but I'm going to respond with me believing you're talking about the WVU-Pittsburgh game. They played the game on December 1st and lost. After that game he took alot of flack from WVU fans because his team choked in one of the biggest games ever for them. He was having alot of doubters from within his organization, and that didn't sit to well with him. First you'll need a history of the Michigan coaching search so you can understand where Rich Rod comes in. Michigan had missed out on Les Miles when he affirmed his oath back on the December 1st and told Michigan point blank he would not be their coach on December 11th.

Greg Schiano was next on the list, and a different story. Schiano was in a meeting with Bill Martin for 5 hours on Thursday December 6th. He was given a deal in which 'if you accept the job you have an offer, if you decline us we never really offered you.' He was talked up into accepting the deal, and he went to sleep that night (the few hours he did sleep, having to think over such a huge decision for him and his family) a Michigan Wolverine in his head. However, when he woke up he just couldn't bring himself to leave Rutgers his home team, and the job he was doing building them up. He called a team meeting at 7 am and told the team "He still had work to do" at Rutgers. (quote from NJ.com through MGoBlog)

Schiano and Miles were both out of the equation by December 11th, with a few low level candidates like Jeff Tedford and Jim Grobe expressing their desires to stay with their respective teams. This is where Rich Rod came in. His first known contact with Michigan was Friday December 14th when he met in Toledo, Ohio with Bill Martin and Mary Sue Coleman. He blew off reporters all day Friday and Saturday when he went back to WVU, and the rest is history. So what you can tell from all that is Michigan didn't make a move on Rich Rod, until their top two choices Les Miles (December 1st) and Greg Schiano (December 6th) rejected Michigan.

So Rich Rod may have been contacted in the days between December 11th and December 14th, but it'll be never known. Bill Martin has kept his mouth shut and said "He will not talk about the process at all, just the end result." This all adds up to, unless you're talking about the bowl game vs Oklahoma, he was FULLY focused on his WVU team when they choked against Pittsburgh. He wasn't secretly negotiating anything with Michigan.

 

[HailToMichigan]

You don't think half-assing things as your team (yes, it was still his team) prepares for their biggest game of the year while secretly negotiating your exit is an asshole thing to do? That's just fucking over the kids for his own selfish ass. I'm sure just about any impartial fan given that scenario (leave the names out if you wish) would say it's a dick move.

If you have such a hard time reading us point out what a fuckwad he is, may I suggest another self-imposed ban? Yes, we are pre-disposed to hate your coach, but the way this shit stain has gone about things has made it infinately easier. Read back before his hiring, he didn't have many fans here then either.

The fact that you think RR was "half-assing" proves what I'm saying.

As ChisAto pointed out (though I had thought it was fairly common knowledge), RR wasn't in contact with U-M officials until, at the absolute earliest possible date, 10 days after the Pitt loss. Further, he didn't actually meet in person with Martin until three days after that.

So what benefit, exactly, would RR have gotten from shortening practice? That's why I said what I said. So practice was shorter so RR could do what, exactly? Call up Bill Martin? (He didn't, at least not on the same WVU phone he used to call up all of Michigan's recruits, or we'd have known about that, wouldn't we?) Go have meditation time at the house over the job? Just be lazy? (And if RR was really just being lazy, wouldn't that sort of stuff happen all the time?)

 

[osugrad21]

The fact that you think RR was "half-assing" proves what I'm saying.

It was stated by his own player...its not as if NFBuck came up with it out of the blue. The player noted that they could tell a difference.

You are guilty of the very thing you accuse...just on the other end of the spectrum.

 

[jwinslow]

Pretty sure reynaud and nfbuck are talking about the bowl. Obviously rrod wasn't even in the mix pre Pitt

 

[HailToMichigan]

It was stated by his own player...its not as if NFBuck came up with it out of the blue. The player noted that they could tell a difference.

You are guilty of the very thing you accuse...just on the other end of the spectrum.

Half-assing was NF's word, not Reynaud's. If you think I'm questioning Reynaud's judgment, I am. It seems like a very big leap to make. A few practices were shorter, so Coach is going to Michigan? Practices might be shorter for any one of a myriad of reasons, which may or may not be known to the players, so guessing as to the reason is pure speculation on their part. Sounds to me like linking two completely unrelated phenomena, because, as I've asked, what benefit is there for RR, especially as related to Michigan, from shortening West Virginia's practice? Are we guessing that it was for no other reason than pure spite?

 

[osugrad21]

So you are telling me that "half assing" is not a logical label based on Reynaud's comments?

 

[HailToMichigan]

So you are telling me that "half assing" is not a logical label based on Reynaud's comments?

Yes, exactly. Look at it like this: If the shorter practices were related to RR leaving, then one of two things must be true. Either RR used the extra time to his benefit to do something about the Michigan job, or he did not.

I can not think of what he could have done related to the Michigan job outside of extra phone time with Bill Martin, which, again, we'd have known about since they published the phone records.

So if he did not, that would be a lazy, half-assed thing to do - use his impending departure as an excuse to slough off for the day. (Which also assumes that he pretty much already knew he was leaving - before he flew to Toledo on the 14th.) Did a coach who in five years worked his way up from Division II to the head-coaching job at a D-IA BCS school suddenly turn that lazy? Really?