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She's not a canine either... she's Alison Stokke.Bucky Katt;1487294; said:So she's a liar then. What a bitch.
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OCBuckWife
I am the evil monkey in your closet
Ttown;1487302; said:
I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't mind at least having Alison Stokke's body. Ya know, for my trunk.
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Allison Stokke
Pole-vaulter extraordinaire!
OCBuckWife;1487290; said:Here's me not touching these comments with a ten foot pole.
Please don't post that picture!
This one, lest there be any confusion.
Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1487295; said:
No she isn't.
Gatorubet;1487298; said:
GPA?
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Allison Stokke
Pole-vaulter extraordinaire!
OCBuckWife;1487305; said:
Hah. You'll have to find a pretty sturdy prybar to get me out of FCB's trunk first!
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1487295; said:
No she isn't.
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The biggest problem is that many Christians feel compelled to spread the Gospel and:
a) Forget to 'love our neighbor' while doing so. The quest takes precedence and can become more of a target than a friend. It's done with the right intentions but wrong approach.
b) Do it the way we've seen others do it or how we feel compelled to do it. Most people have very different gifts/skills, in terms of empathy, communication, speaking, listening, etc... the "life of the party" might be great at sharing or speaking in front of a group, but terrible at relating to people 1v1 and being sensitive to someone's feelings, space, beliefs, needs.
This kind of thing pops up with illnesses as well. I've dealt with this from relatives, including one who was healed fairly miraculously. Two other family members were suffering with a similar affliction, and so of course the healed relative would always insist that they needed to pray more, better, differently, etc. It's the same misguided preaching that Job got in the Old Testament when Murphy's Law was working overtime. "Clearly you aren't right with God, in your prayers or otherwise... he wouldn't do this to you."
a) Forget to 'love our neighbor' while doing so. The quest takes precedence and can become more of a target than a friend. It's done with the right intentions but wrong approach.
b) Do it the way we've seen others do it or how we feel compelled to do it. Most people have very different gifts/skills, in terms of empathy, communication, speaking, listening, etc... the "life of the party" might be great at sharing or speaking in front of a group, but terrible at relating to people 1v1 and being sensitive to someone's feelings, space, beliefs, needs.
The discomfort of such comments is common between Christians as well. That last line is quite popular and quite misguided/misinterpreted, at least in the American sense of "good" & "rewarded." ("Health and Wealth")OCBuckWife;1486766; said:
This kind of thing pops up with illnesses as well. I've dealt with this from relatives, including one who was healed fairly miraculously. Two other family members were suffering with a similar affliction, and so of course the healed relative would always insist that they needed to pray more, better, differently, etc. It's the same misguided preaching that Job got in the Old Testament when Murphy's Law was working overtime. "Clearly you aren't right with God, in your prayers or otherwise... he wouldn't do this to you."
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jwinslow;1487320; said:
That, exactly, is the problem. I am well aware that a lot of Christian religions emphasize this, even sometimes requiring a certain amount of time spent doing missions. I do try to keep that in mind. But it is probably the largest issue I have with Christian religions. This ....pushing....of the message. I HATE it when people knock on my door to give me a pamphlet or ask me to join them at church.
Keeping that in mind, I do still understand when even relatives do it but I expect more of them in the response part. If I ask a loved one to please stop doing something, I expect them to stop doing it, out of mutual respect for one another, out of love that we share, and our mutual rights to our own beliefs. When that doesn't occur is when I get upset.
We asked them to keep the religion out of our house. They gave us books about religion while visiting our house for Christmas.
We asked them to stop inviting us to church and their bible study group, after we politely went once (her wedding shower was also her bible study group) and had nothing but awkward silences and conversations and they asked us when we were coming back.
The "I will pray for you" stuff is, to be honest, a very mild annoyance. That is, until I found out, really neither of them say it in conversation to my husband (it's his biological brother.) That gave me pause and caused me to start this topic.
I mean, I don't THINK I am doing anything different than anyone else. I'm calmly explaining my opinions and desires, I stay silent rather than be snarky more often than not and I know I have gotten my point across due to her reactions to me as mentioned above. Thus far, I think I have done everything everyone has suggested. Maybe it's just his brother, being a recent convert and all, being that much more zealous for now.
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