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Reds Tidbits (2012 Season)

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jlb1705;2113338; said:
Replace Frazier with Francisco.

You left out Bill Bray. You were short a bullpen arm anyway, there's no way they go with anything less than a 12-man pitching staff.

Ondrusek is the 12th man in that bullpen, and it could be somebody else in that spot when camp breaks based on spring performance and/or business reasons. Ondrusek still has options and can be stashed in AAA rather than having to put somebody like Josh Judy or Andrew Brackman on waivers.

Marshall is the 8th inning guy, not Masset. Marshall is probably the highest leverage arm in the pen and has (statistically speaking) been the best reliever in baseball over the last two years. He has excellent splits against righties and lefties, and the presence of Bray means he doesn't have to be used as a LOOGY.

As for the rotation, I think Latos is the #1, but that Cueto will start opening day because he is tenured. I think Arroyo is the true #5. I think if he continues to suck he will find his way to the bullpen since his contract means the Reds are stuck with him. If that happens, it could be any one of Chapman, Francis or Tomko moving into that spot, depending on who ends up in L'ville any how well Chapman does at re-education camp. The only way Bailey is not in the rotation is if (when) he is hurt or if he is traded. Everything I've read says that he is not a good bullpen candidate. Since the Reds brought him up way too early he is now out of options, and there's no way in hell he is just waived.
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great write up!
 
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$16.5MM over 3 years. Sounds like a lot for a set-up man, but Jocketty hinted today that Marshall could be a candidate for closer after this season, which could make him a huge bargain.

EDIT: Per Ken Rosenthal, via RedsZone...
Interesting aspect to Marshall extension: $2M in performance bonuses each year. Half for games finished, half for games started
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Translation: he gets a bit of a raise if he's converted into a starter or closer.
 
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jlb1705;2115892; said:
$16.5MM over 3 years. Sounds like a lot for a set-up man, but Jocketty hinted today that Marshall could be a candidate for closer after this season, which could make him a huge bargain.

EDIT: Per Ken Rosenthal, via RedsZone...


Translation: he gets a bit of a raise if he's converted into a starter or closer.
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Well, he has been a 2+ WAR player the last two years. Around 2 million per WAR (which is super simplistic, I know) is a pretty good deal.

I didn't like the trade when he was only on a 1 year deal, but it looks like they worked hard to sign him. So it worked out. One of, if not the, best lefty relievers in baseball for 4 years and about 20 million looks pretty good now.

Of course with that said his arm will fall off on opening day and Travis Wood will become a Hall of Famer.
 
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Molina OPS'd .100 points higher than his career average and .140 points higher than in 2010, which was a poor season. It was a career year for him as his power numbers were way up. He's 29.

Those in baseball circles have believed for a long time that catchers peak offensively later than other positions, but they also decline more quickly too, as the 29-31 age range is extremely volatile.

If he can replicate 2011 then the first two years of that deal may be OK; but I'm not banking on him replicating 2011 and I'm inclined to believe the Cards will regret paying him $15M when he's 33 or 34.
 
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