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Reds Tidbits (2012 Season)

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That was just unfair. They didn't even foul off a ball, and it was all fastballs.

Well, another nice start by Leake after I bash him. I need to do that more often. Everyone outside the middle 3 in the lineup still can't hit for shit, but hey it's a win and a 2.5 game lead.
 
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Jaxbuck;2161505; said:
yeah, if he wants to go out in a blaze of Benoit then as long as he's productive I really don't give a shit anymore.
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BuckeyeMike80;2161506; said:
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too soon man, too soon....
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Balls
 
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Tim Keefe, who had a 0.86 ERA in 1880.

If you're looking for modern history, it would be Greg Maddux, with a season ERA of 1.56 in 1994.


Bob Gibson of the St Louis Cardinals won 22 games against 9 losses with a 1.12 era in 1968. The following year, the mound was lowered.


In 1985 Dwight Gooden won 24 games against only 4 losses, 268 strikeouts, 16 complete games and a 1.53 era for one of baseball's most statistically dominant seasons.


Dutch Leonard of the Boston Red Sox in 1914 had an ERA of 1.01.



This is the company that Aroldis Chapman is in right now. Pretty awesome.


Some people will look at this as "well the other guys are starters and it's harder to keep a low era when you pitch as many innings." I would argue the opposite. A starter can bring his ERA back down through more innings after a bad one. A reliever's ERA will explode only giving up 1 run due to the fewer innings. Either way, ERA in the neighborhood it currently sits, is phenomenal.

Harry McCormick of the Cincinnati RedStockings in 1882 is the all time ERA in a season leader for Cincinnati teams.
 
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Bestbuck36;2161602; said:
Some people will look at this as "well the other guys are starters and it's harder to keep a low era when you pitch as many innings." I would argue the opposite. A starter can bring his ERA back down through more innings after a bad one. A reliever's ERA will explode only giving up 1 run due to the fewer innings.
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True, but you also have to figure in the fact that starters are facing the same batters multiple times in a day and closers are not. Anyway you dice it though, the dude is killing it.
 
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Bestbuck36;2161602; said:
Tim Keefe, who had a 0.86 ERA in 1880.

If you're looking for modern history, it would be Greg Maddux, with a season ERA of 1.56 in 1994.


Bob Gibson of the St Louis Cardinals won 22 games against 9 losses with a 1.12 era in 1968. The following year, the mound was lowered.


In 1985 Dwight Gooden won 24 games against only 4 losses, 268 strikeouts, 16 complete games and a 1.53 era for one of baseball's most statistically dominant seasons.


Dutch Leonard of the Boston Red Sox in 1914 had an ERA of 1.01.



This is the company that Aroldis Chapman is in right now. Pretty awesome.


Some people will look at this as "well the other guys are starters and it's harder to keep a low era when you pitch as many innings." I would argue the opposite. A starter can bring his ERA back down through more innings after a bad one. A reliever's ERA will explode only giving up 1 run due to the fewer innings. Either way, ERA in the neighborhood it currently sits, is phenomenal.

Harry McCormick of the Cincinnati RedStockings in 1882 is the all time ERA in a season leader for Cincinnati teams.
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More impressive than Maddux to me is Pedro Martinez putting up a 1.74 ERA in 2000. In the AL, in Boston at the height of the steroid era.In fact with what we now know about the steroid era, Pedro's numbers from 1997-2003 need to be given even more notice.

As far as Chapman goes, its obviously nice to see him harness that electric arm. It's even nicer to see our braintrust manage to find a way to only use him 4-5 inning per week.

As long as Stubbs gets the most AB's and Chapman only pitches an inning or two here and there we should be in fine shape.
 
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Bestbuck36;2161602; said:
Tim Keefe, who had a 0.86 ERA in 1880.

If you're looking for modern history, it would be Greg Maddux, with a season ERA of 1.56 in 1994.


Bob Gibson of the St Louis Cardinals won 22 games against 9 losses with a 1.12 era in 1968. The following year, the mound was lowered.


In 1985 Dwight Gooden won 24 games against only 4 losses, 268 strikeouts, 16 complete games and a 1.53 era for one of baseball's most statistically dominant seasons.


Dutch Leonard of the Boston Red Sox in 1914 had an ERA of 1.01.



This is the company that Aroldis Chapman is in right now. Pretty awesome.


Some people will look at this as "well the other guys are starters and it's harder to keep a low era when you pitch as many innings." I would argue the opposite. A starter can bring his ERA back down through more innings after a bad one. A reliever's ERA will explode only giving up 1 run due to the fewer innings. Either way, ERA in the neighborhood it currently sits, is phenomenal.

Harry McCormick of the Cincinnati RedStockings in 1882 is the all time ERA in a season leader for Cincinnati teams.
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If he is going to do a comparison at least start with '90 Eckersley since he was a reliever in the modern era. 0.61 ERA, 0.614 WHIP, 73 K's and 4 walks (1 was intentional) in 73 innings over 63 appearances. Certainly Chapman will have more K's, but if he can finish the year anywhere near those other numbers I would be ecstatic.
 
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