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Reds Tidbits (2007 Season)

MuckFich06;746242; said:
One question Jaxbuck. Do you watch or listen to the Reds on a regular basis. I mean at least 3 games a week during the regular season?

I do, have for 20 plus years. I've went to sleep with Marty and Joe since I was a kid. I think many give Dunn too much crap too. I imagine Jax would agree, but I won't speak for him... ?
 
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MuckFich06;746242; said:
One question Jaxbuck. Do you watch or listen to the Reds on a regular basis. I mean at least 3 games a week during the regular season?


I have MLB extra innings and MLB.com. I don't miss a game except when I'm blacked out on Saturdays. I also spend an inordinate amount of time discussing the Reds with others over at RZ.
 
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Count me in with coastalbuck and Jaxbuck.

By the way, found this on YouTube. The aforementioned Dunn delivered two of the six game-winning HRs in this clip. The grand slam against the Indians was especially sweet. I was lucky enough to be there for three of the six.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Yo6PArw9g[/YOUTUBE]
 
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Thanks for the highlights, I have looked at the reds as a way to get me thru summer to football season over the past couple years, but last year they stayed in the race and kept me interested basically all year...

Hopefully they can do the same this year as well...
 
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Jaxbuck;746389; said:
I have MLB extra innings and MLB.com. I don't miss a game except when I'm blacked out on Saturdays. I also spend an inordinate amount of time discussing the Reds with others over at RZ.

Cool. I was just curious because the problems I see with Dunn are the kind of things you only see watching on a regular basis. Anyways, I made my points. I don't think the Reds should trade him and never had. I realize we can't replace his bat. Just frustrated that I think he is capable of more. BTW, when I go to games I like to sit on his side of the field so I can yell my encouragement. He usually hits a dinger when I go. I think having EE for a full season in the line up will be a big benefit. Also, would be good if they can settle on a line up. I think Dunn does better when they don't move him around.

On another note, I really like the direction this team is headed. I was really pleased when I heard how they structured the Harang and Arroyo deals. The big bucks don't kick in until after Griffey and Milton's contracts are up. Makes total sense. With Votto and Bruce on the way, this team is a closer and a couple of durable arms away from being a real contender.
 
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MuckFich06;746471; said:
Also, would be good if they can settle on a line up. I think Dunn does better when they don't move him around.

If we had more offense Dunn excels in the #2 hole. I would like to see what he does given an entire season at #3 also. That RBI number would get up to where some expect it to be. Dunn leads off too many innings over the course of a season from the #5 spot Narron, Miley and Boone seem to have slotted for him.

On another note, I really like the direction this team is headed. I was really pleased when I heard how they structured the Harang and Arroyo deals. The big bucks don't kick in until after Griffey and Milton's contracts are up. Makes total sense. With Votto and Bruce on the way, this team is a closer and a couple of durable arms away from being a real contender.

I'm happy that we can actually see some legit hope for once but still far too many things have to go right for my taste. IF, by some miracle Baily, Votto, Bruce, EE, Cueto, and Coffey all turn into studs at the MLB level then I agree, we are primed to have a very good team. The odds of all that are pretty bad however, which brings me back to the reason I remain very pessamistic about the future of our Reds.

Fundamentally the organizations biggest weakness is still a lack of depth and talent from the minor league system and I don't see anything that tells me Kriv is addressing that. No way this organization fields a consistent winning team untill the minors are stock full of young talent to either help the MLB team or serve as trading chips for parts needed to make a pennant run. Right now we finally have some talent but its thin, there is no fallback if a guy doesn't pan out and prospects don't pan out more often than they do.

For instance just project a couple of years ahead and what we'll be like if Arroyo goes back to pre '06 form and Homer is a bust. Sucks to think about but is just as likely to happen as Arroyo repeating his career year a few more times and Baily being the next Nolan Ryan. Probably more likely to tell the truth.

These recent contract extensions were nice and extend our window for having a shot at being a good team so hopefully we see more minor leaguers start to come on, but thats all it is....a shot at it and quite a long one at that imo. Still better than the absolute zero chance we had to be good again just a couple years back though.:wink2:
 
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Jaxbuck;746787; said:
Fundamentally the organizations biggest weakness is still a lack of depth and talent from the minor league system and I don't see anything that tells me Kriv is addressing that. No way this organization fields a consistent winning team untill the minors are stock full of young talent to either help the MLB team or serve as trading chips for parts needed to make a pennant run. Right now we finally have some talent but its thin, there is no fallback if a guy doesn't pan out and prospects don't pan out more often than they do.

No doubt about this. I just read we released Gruler. That is 3 first round picks (all pitching) this organization failed to develop and lost (Howington and Sowers were the others, years were 2002, 1999 and 2001 respectively) in the last few years. Gruler had a club record 2.5 million bonus.

This, obviously, isn't Kriv's fault. But he does have a plan in place (don't they all) to build up the entire organization. Based on the success of the Twins organization, I have to like his long-term chance at success. I agree the way to win with a small-market club is through draft and success in foreign signings. This will take time, but let's hope we can win with the talent we have right now, because it is all we got.

Edit: We should be looking at some immediate benefits of the Kriv era. Schoenweis and Aurilla were both tendered and we will receive (I believe) first and second round compensation for them respectively.
 
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Cincy

GM hit ground running
Unafraid to deal, he did it often in 1st year with Reds
BY JOHN FAY | [email protected]

Bob Castellini and Jerry Narron, the men immediately above and below general manager Wayne Krivsky on the Reds' management food chain, say Krivsky's greatest asset is his decisiveness.
"He's not afraid," said Narron, the club's field manager. "I love it."
Castellini, the club's chief executive officer/owner, gave Krivsky a win-now mandate, and it fit Krivsky's style.

Continued....
 
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crazybuckfan40;747514; said:
Not sure of Kriv's draft history, but I am all for taking the big named college guys even tho you have to pay them more, b/c they seem to be the ones that can come up and help faster and not have to wait so long to develop...

This is a bit of a generalization based on Kriv's one draft, but I'd say he agrees. Most of his first day picks came from the college ranks.

All told, of the 50 players selected by the Reds in the draft, 32 were collegiate players -- 24 from four-year schools, and eight from the junior college ranks. A total of 18 high school players were picked during the two-day draft. More


Edit: Kriv lets the Scouting Director take control of the draft, old article (pre draft)
 
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Okinawa's#1Buck;748568; said:
This is a bit of a generalization based on Kriv's one draft, but I'd say he agrees. Most of his first day picks came from the college ranks.

All told, of the 50 players selected by the Reds in the draft, 32 were collegiate players -- 24 from four-year schools, and eight from the junior college ranks. A total of 18 high school players were picked during the two-day draft. More


Edit: Kriv lets the Scouting Director take control of the draft, old article (pre draft)

Thanks for the info...
 
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I think once you get some legit depth in your ML system you can be more fluid and draft who you think is the best player and not always college kids because you need them ready sooner. You can take a shot on the Homer Baily's every few years without having so much of the franchises future riding on the kid actually becoming a star.

As far as Letting FA's go for the draft picks I'd still rather flip them at the trade deadline and get a more MLB ready prospect. The MLB draft is by far the biggest longshot proposition in professional sports. Of course if we actually start winning then obviously its time to let them go and get the comp pick. 2006 was a year to flip, not hold and get the pick.

If Krivsky's "plan" is to tread water with what we have(all the old stop gap players he signs), pray to God the few prospects we do have all make it big and rebuild the ML's through the draft then I'll just say strategic planning seems to be a weakness of his while contracts seem to be his strength. Honestly that sounds like a plan Dan O would pul out of one of his binders and the #1 reason (along with the ass raping he took in The Trade last year) that my personal jury on Krivsky is still out.
 
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