Recruiting around the Big Ten

[MililaniBuckeye]

Cant remember if the places name. I remember Hernandos Hideaway in waikaki accross the street from Ft. Derussy, Favorite night bar was Moose McGuilicutties. Lots of Austrailian women :)

Not sure if Hernando's is still around, but Moose's is still going strong. They've completely re-done the Ft. DeRussy park area, including adding a 3-story parking garage for the Hale Koa which now has two buildings.

 

[BB73]

3yards,

Smith is off climbing a mountain. This is from a Spartan article:

"Smith plans to climb a 19,340-foot peak on Africa's Mount Kilimanjaro. The trip begins July 8 with an African safari.



Smith's sons - Nick, 25, and Sam, 20 - will join their father for the Kilimanjaro climb in a party expected to include at least 10 people. <!-- STORY AD BEGINS HERE -->
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<!-- STORY AD ENDS HERE -->The climb will be guided and is non-technical, meaning ropes and mountain climbing expertise are not necessary. But the trip will lead Smith through five distinct climate zones - starting in a rain forest and ending in bitter cold with temperatures below freezing.

The climb and descent of the mountain in northern Tanzania is expected to take about a week, ending in late July." - end of article

I've been on a safari, and it was an awesome trip. We saw that mountain, but didn't climb it.

 

[Buckskin86]

Football recruiting: Ohio State, Michigan dominate Big Ten, causing some to wonder if the ?Big Two? days are back
By Bill Rabinowitz
The Columbus Dispatch Tuesday January 31, 2012

To Ohio State and Michigan fans, they were the good, old days. The rest of the Big Ten would rather forget them.

The conference was derided as the Big Two and Little Eight when Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler duked it out during their Ten-Year War starting in 1969.

When Gerry DiNardo of the Big Ten Network interviewed new Buckeyes coach Urban Meyer recently, he compared the competition that Meyer and Michigan?s Brady Hoke have already had in recruiting and will have on the field in November to the Woody and Bo era.

Each program is emerging from unexpected depths. Michigan floundered during Rich Rodriguez?s three years as coach. Ohio State just finished its first losing season in 23 years and endured an NCAA proctology in the process.

But if league rivals hoped for extended fallout from the Buckeyes? and Wolverines? problems, they?ve been disappointed.

Rivals.com and Scout.com rank Ohio State?s recruiting class as the third-best in the country. Michigan is fifth in Rivals.com?s rankings and fourth in Scout.com?s.

What might be more striking than that is the gap between the Buckeyes and Wolverines and the rest of the conference. No other Big Ten school ranks in the top 25 of either ranking. Ohio State and Michigan combine for 28 four- and five-star recruits in Scout.com   rankings. The other 10 Big Ten schools have a combined 20 four-star recruits and zero five-stars.

?Right now, Ohio State?s and Michigan?s recruiting classes are so much better than the other 10, it?s absurd,? DiNardo said.

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http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2012/01/31/separation-anxiety.html

 

[Joe6809]

It's funny to go back through and read the comments about some of the recruits back in '04. Orton and Ringer obviously proved to be studs, and if we only knew then just how coveted Mesko would actually end up being.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I always respected JoPa but now have come to believe he is going to ruin that once proud football school.

Nailed it.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2012/01/31/separation-anxiety.html

The comment about Nebraska having to "reorient recruiting from Texas-based to Midwest" makes zero sense, unless they've physically relocated the UNL campus 500 miles east...

 

[Coqui]

The comment about Nebraska having to "reorient recruiting from Texas-based to Midwest" makes zero sense, unless they've physically relocated the UNL campus 500 miles east...

Agreed. Texas is a fertile recruiting ground, why would they move from there?

 

[BuckTwenty]

Holy thread-brought-back-from-the-dead Batman!

 

[cincibuck]

http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2012/01/31/separation-anxiety.html

Must be a kid writing the article not to remember that in those mean ol' days damn near every conference could be referred to as the Big 2 and the eight dwarves. The Pac 10 was USC and UCLA, with an occasional blast from Oregon State (Bill Earthquake Enyart), Stanford (Jim Plunkett) or Washington (Sonny Six Killer). The Big 8 title game came down to Nebraska v Oklahoma for more years than I care to remember. The SWC only had Snow White and the dwarf-of-the-season. The SEC was Alabama and Tennessee. The reduction in total schollies helped add some competition.

 

[NastyNatiBuck]

The comment about Nebraska having to "reorient recruiting from Texas-based to Midwest" makes zero sense, unless they've physically relocated the UNL campus 500 miles east...

Agreed. Texas is a fertile recruiting ground, why would they move from there?

The only obvios reasoning that would make sense to me is that it is easier to recruit in the region of your conference. Texas kid grows up wanting to play in the Big 12. Ohio kid grows up wanting to play in the Big 10.

 

[Coqui]

The only obvios reasoning that would make sense to me is that it is easier to recruit in the region of your conference. Texas kid grows up wanting to play in the Big 12. Ohio kid grows up wanting to play in the Big 10.

I disagree. Ohio kids grew up wanting to play for Ohio State. beyond that, I don't think they had any conference loyalty.

 

[Joe6809]

The comment about Nebraska having to "reorient recruiting from Texas-based to Midwest" makes zero sense, unless they've physically relocated the UNL campus 500 miles east...

Agreed. Texas is a fertile recruiting ground, why would they move from there?

No, I actually agree with that 100%. Kids are a lot more interested in a team that has some regional tie through their conference. In Nebraska's case, the Texas kids knew they'd have four Texas teams to play against, which gives them a lot of chances to play in their home state. Being in the Big12 also exposes them to Nebraska. Since Nebraska was in the Big12, and Texas was Big12 country, they were familiar with each other: Nebraska gets air time, their games are always on, it's in the news, etc. But now that Nebraska has joined the Big Ten, that will change. The kids won't grow up seeing Nebraska highlights alongside all the other teams in their local conference.

Much like me with MAC schools. I could not care less about Northern Illinois, Buffalo, or the Directional Michigans, but I know all about them because I went to Ohio University, and I live in Toledo. They're in the news, they're in the same section of the sports page, they're in the conference standings I check, so I am always up to date on what they're doing.

I'm not saying that's the mindset of every kid, but it definitely factors in for some. Now that they will have no ties to Texas through their conference, Nebraska will likely have a harder time bringing Texans into the fold. Now, they're likely going to put more of a focus on Ohio for recruits (especially, as they said, with Bo as their coach).

It came up a lot when Texas/Texas A&M were being courted by the SEC. People made a big deal about how good that would be for the SEC, since it would open the state of Texas up as a recruiting hotbed for them.

 

[BUCKYLE]

No, I actually agree with that 100%. Kids are a lot more interested in a team that has some regional tie through their conference. In Nebraska's case, the Texas kids knew they'd have four Texas teams to play against, which gives them a lot of chances to play in their home state. Being in the Big12 also exposes them to Nebraska. Since Nebraska was in the Big12, and Texas was Big12 country, they were familiar with each other: Nebraska gets air time, their games are always on, it's in the news, etc. But now that Nebraska has joined the Big Ten, that will change. The kids won't grow up seeing Nebraska highlights alongside all the other teams in their local conference.

Much like me with MAC schools. I could not care less about Northern Illinois, Buffalo, or the Directional Michigans, but I know all about them because I went to Ohio University, and I live in Toledo. They're in the news, they're in the same section of the sports page, they're in the conference standings I check, so I am always up to date on what they're doing.

I'm not saying that's the mindset of every kid, but it definitely factors in for some. Now that they will have no ties to Texas through their conference, Nebraska will likely have a harder time bringing Texans into the fold. Now, they're likely going to put more of a focus on Ohio for recruits (especially, as they said, with Bo as their coach).

It came up a lot when Texas/Texas A&M were being courted by the SEC. People made a big deal about how good that would be for the SEC, since it would open the state of Texas up as a recruiting hotbed for them.

It isn't 1970 anymore tho. HS kids aren't checking box scores on the net. They're watching ESPN or reading online. Both of which feature all big boy schools, such as Nebbie. Playing in their home state could still be a factor tho, but With Texas as big an area as it is, it will be just as far a drive for mom and dad to go to Iowa as it was to go to TTech or whatever. If they could pull from Texas before...which they did...then they should still get plenty from that state. The parents can still make it to Nebbie home games.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

It isn't 1970 anymore tho. HS kids aren't checking box scores on the net. They're watching ESPN or reading online. Both of which feature all big boy schools, such as Nebbie. Playing in their home state could still be a factor tho, but With Texas as big an area as it is, it will be just as far a drive for mom and dad to go to Iowa as it was to go to TTech or whatever. If they could pull from Texas before...which they did...then they should still get plenty from that state. The parents can still make it to Nebbie home games.

You said it for me. With this thing called the interweb and tweeter and MySpace the days of local talent only are a diminishing. tOSU will always pull Ohio like Texa$ will have the run of Texa$. The problem with this is these kids do watch ESPiN for info. Hopefully they will learn sooner than later what a mistake that is.

 

[Coqui]

Do people actually still use Myspace?