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RB Maurice Clarett (B1G Freshman of the Year, National Champion)

I have been trying to do some work and study, while watching the draft on ESPN. I do not know if any of you have followed the whole thing but it is apparent to me that MoC is not alone in his troubles.

The Saints first round draft pick scored a 12 on the wonderlic. Who is going to sign his checks and count the money for him?

Then the Saints draft Adrian McPherson(sp)? He could not keep his nose clean in Tallahasse, the Big Easy will chew him up and spit him out.

The NW player that took steroids and the Wiscy player that smoked pot immediately before the combine score low on the common sense factor.

So there are plenty of questionable picks to go around.


MoC is too close to home for the BP fathful. Parade all american and national player of the year out of HS. Started as a freshman and helped tOSU to a national championship. As many other pointed out he was a leader on the team in conditioning and work. He did screw up big time and for many they will never be able to forgive him. Me, I will watch to see how he conducts himself in Denver, many do not get such a fortunate second chance. Much like grad21 said I think we are all tired of hearing about him. Wish him the best and move on.

That is probably the best thing about college football as opposed to the NFL. Love them or hate them the college kids are gone in 3, 4 or 5 years.
 
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Nice post, 'nola.

I agree. MoC brings up too many emotions for a Buckeye fan to view his selection logically.

He sure is fortunate to be going to Denver. Backs you've never heard of have 1000 yard seasons there... I always pick up the 2nd (or even 3rd) string Denver RB in my fantasy football league and it usually pays off.
 
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I like OSUgrad21s' comments.
I am numb toward Mo C. Just glad he's gone, and away from C-bus.
I like focusing my attention on our current lot of buckeyes playing, and
upcoming. Know what I mean.....
Moose
 
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JonathanXC said:
Three main reasons why this isn't a good pick.

1. Clarett's work ethic is about as crappy as any i've ever seen. The guy wants things handed to him, and I really don't think he has it in him to work as hard as he needs to do withstand what it takes to be an NFL back.

2. Clarett has yet to have a full season of organized football in which he hasn't gotten injured. He's the most injury prone football player ever. I don't think his body could take as much pounding as it did in the NFL.

3. Too many good RBs left (Darren Sproles, TA MacLendon) to take Clarett at this point. He likely would have been around for their next pick, and I feel like his top potential at this point couldn't be any better then these other backs.
Those guys you mentioned arent even in claretts class. He will be fine.

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I'm not surprised someone reached for Clarett, I had figured him to go in the fourth anyway, but going to the Broncos is a huge surprise. They still have a previous 1,000 yard back in Mike Anderson, they still have Quentin Griffin, they're sitting on Tatum Bell along with 3 or 4 other backs, and they picked up Ron Dayne in the offseason -- they've got at least 7 other RBs on the roster!

Oh, and they play in the AFC west, where they'll play the Chargers twice a season ... I can't wait to see Clarett's reunion with Wilhelm. :)
Thats if wilhlem actually sees the field. I love the guy but hes done squat in the NFL thus far.
 
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Personally, I kind let the past go. I won't necessarily be pulling for him, but I won't be pulling against him either. But I'll probably be watching what happens to him, just like the rest of the Buckeye Nation.

As for how I expect him to do, I would be quite surprised if he doesn't see alot of action early, and I will be equally surprised if he doesn't get hurt his first season. Mo was hurt every season he played football. I really think it his style of running (which is a beautiful thing to watch). He is very physical and very aggresive. More so than almost any other back I've seen and I think its the primary reason for his success, and his injuries. And the NFL is orders of magnitude tougher on running backs than high school and college. I just can't imagine how he'll get through a season without injury.

The other thing I worry about for him is what happens when he does taste success. I suspect it will be the last we see of ole humble Mo. I think he craves the limelight, look how he handled his fame his freshman year. Talk about letting it get to his head! And that's just not something the NFL needs, one more classless headcase.

Hopefully, he will avoid both pitfalls and have a decent NFL career. But I have to say the odds are probably not in his favor, but we'll see.
 
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The Broncos wanted him all along per "A Broncos front-office rep handed out a fact sheet on Clarett moments after the pick. Moral to the story: Shanahan knew all along Clarett was his man."



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Article Published: Sunday, April 24, 2005 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=articleBody align=left>jim armstrong

Clarett pick means Shanahan's OK

By Jim Armstrong
Denver Post Staff Columnist


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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Notes from Draft Day. ... First, the trade for Washington's 2006 first-rounder, then the third-round flyer on Maurice Clarett, who might be a player a couple years down the road. Funny, but Mike Shanahan isn't acting like a coach at the crossroads of his career.

If these developments suggest anything, it's that Pat Bowlen is telling it straight. Shanahan, playoff wins or no playoff wins, will be coaching the Broncos for years to come. Why else would he make two lightning-bolt moves with an eye toward the future?

"The slate is clean," said Shanahan, when asked about the selection of Clarett. "We're going to give him an opportunity. We're going to give him a chance."

Obviously, Bowlen is giving Shanahan more than a chance. The past few days have provided the strongest indications yet that his commitment to Shanahan hasn't wavered. ...

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A Broncos front-office rep handed out a fact sheet on Clarett moments after the pick. Moral to the story: Shanahan knew all along Clarett was his man. ...

Make no doubt, whether he booms or busts, the Broncos' 2005 draft will forever be known as The Maurice Clarett Draft. If Clarett doesn't make it, Shanahan will never hear the end of it. How do I know? You didn't really have to ask, did you? ...

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http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%7E33084%7E2833460,00.html
 
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gost8 said:
Like him or not, as a freshman, he was the best back in college.
I hope this was meant to be a joke. Here's just a few guys who had more yards rushing than Clarett in 2002:

Johnson, PSU -- 2087
Davis, Wisc. -- 1555
Harris, Ill. -- 1330
Russell, Iowa -- 1264

And that's just in the Big 10. Additionally, what about Clarett crying on the sidelines when he was benched for fumbling and missing games due to injury? He had a good year, no doubt, but to say that he was the best back in college that year or anything approaching it is ridiculous. Moreover, every year there are better freshman backs than Clarett was in 2002 (for instance, Hart and Peterson put up much better numbers this year).

I hope Clarett turns out to be a bust if for no other reason than that coaches such as Mike Shanahan will think twice about choosing players with such baggage. Shanahan did nothing but perpetuate such selfish behavior by picking Clarett in the 3rd round yesterday. It looks like that guy will do anything to try to win a playoff game w/o Elway.
 
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denver lol

clarett and kobe in denver :!

I think its funny how he praised his laywer for everything and said ohio state is still his place saying no negative things sbout osu

I wonder if ex-player and troy smiths brother rod smith said hello to pootetang for all past players
 
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Added Shanahan: "We feel like we know running backs pretty good. We've had some success with them. We think he'll fit into our system very well. Now only time will tell if he takes advantage of the situation."
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I think the coaches at Denver can talk recruiting and ability of running backs better than anyone else in football period. Clarett was a farce off the field but hopefully he has learned from those mistakes and will conduct himself appropriately in Denver. I wish him no ill will and lots of luck. :pimp:
 
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buckeyeboy said:
I hope this was meant to be a joke. Here's just a few guys who had more yards rushing than Clarett in 2002:

Johnson, PSU -- 2087
Davis, Wisc. -- 1555
Harris, Ill. -- 1330
Russell, Iowa -- 1264

And that's just in the Big 10. Additionally, what about Clarett crying on the sidelines when he was benched for fumbling and missing games due to injury? He had a good year, no doubt, but to say that he was the best back in college that year or anything approaching it is ridiculous. Moreover, every year there are better freshman backs than Clarett was in 2002 (for instance, Hart and Peterson put up much better numbers this year).

I hope Clarett turns out to be a bust if for no other reason than that coaches such as Mike Shanahan will think twice about choosing players with such baggage. Shanahan did nothing but perpetuate such selfish behavior by picking Clarett in the 3rd round yesterday. It looks like that guy will do anything to try to win a playoff game w/o Elway.
Look... You can't just rattle off rushing yds., as the measuring stick of who was the best rb in 02. The Big Ten is a good place to compare rb's because of the similar schedule. First of all Larry Johnson was Penn State's whole team. You know who he shared carries with? Nobody... The qb's were the second leading rushers for PSU. Lydell Ross and Mo Hall had almost 1000 yds in Clarett's absence. Let's just for fun give Ross' and Hall's rushing yds. 2226.... Not bad. By your argument he is one of the best ever. If LJ didn't perform PSU lost. Need proof? The 4 best D's he faced in 02 were Iowa, scUM, Ohio State and Auburn. He rushed for 68, 78, 66 and 72 yds. in those games respectively. (By the way those are PSU's 4 losses for the year too.)

Anthony Davis? Can you say 300 carries? Lets give Clarett those 79 extra carries and hit him up with his 5.6 yds. per.... grand total 1679 yds. (I think that is a conservative number considering the teams he didn't get to play against.) I would put him closer to 1850, because he missed Cinci, (150 yds.) Minnesota, the worst rushing defense ever, (maybe 300... don't laugh AD had 301 against them, nearly one fifth his total yds. for the season.) and Illinois (150) plus a half vs. Purdue and three quarters vs. PSU. (200 more.) That comes up to close over 2000 yds.

The other 2 aren't even in the same area code so I won't bother. Don't give me shit about injuries or crying either. LJ whined about Vermeil's comments about taking off his diaper. You can't blame the guy for a freak stinger. That kind of injury takes time to heal. It wasn't because he wasn't in shape. He played on a surgically repaired knee in what... a week ?

OSU does not only lose the NC game, but probably doesn't even play in it without MoC.

AND OH YEAH, HE WAS A FRESHMAN !!! Mike Hart had 1148 yds. his freshman year. Peterson had 1925 on 339 carries. (See Anthony Davis)

As far as Shanahan goes... If he doesn't pick Clarett, someone else does... early in the fourth. They know what they are getting. They know talent better than either one of us ever will.

So as far as ridiculous statements go, just about your whole post is just that. Get your numbers right before you call someone else ridiculous or a joke.

Yes he made some bad decisions, but you nor I know the whole story behind that either. Don't believe everything you read or hear. I have little doubt if he plays for OSU that second year, they repeat as NC and he is in at least the Heisman ballotting. (Probably wins it.) If he stays a third year, similar results. First pick in the first round and YOU LOVE HIM.
 
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td class="yspsctnhdln">Troubled back looks forward to starting anew</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="7"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> By EDDIE PELLS, AP Sports Writer
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<small>AP - Apr 24, 4:59 pm EDT</small>
More Photos</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> DENVER (AP) -- He sat out for two years, sued the NFL and alienated his alma mater. After being regarded as one of the best prospects in the country, he wound up as little more than an out-of-shape curiosity.

It's no wonder Maurice Clarett surprised a lot of people by getting chosen in the third round of the draft. On Sunday, he reported to his new team and his new life, wearing a smile and holding a Denver Broncos jersey.

He claimed his troubled past was now ``water under the bridge.'' He said he would be a model citizen for the Broncos -- no holdouts or attitude problems here. Most of all, he said he had been humbled after two years of unseemly turmoil and was glad to be playing football again.

``I'd like for, when people say my name, to mention me with the Denver Broncos and not with all the hoopla and everything else,'' Clarett said at his introductory news conference.

Nobody forgets about past misdeeds more quickly than NFL coaches and scouts in search of talent. The Broncos -- especially coach Mike Shanahan and assistant Bobby Turner -- were impressed with what Clarett did over his freshman year at Ohio State, along with the way he carried himself during his two years on the sideline.

Thus, the first big surprise of draft weekend: Not that Clarett was chosen, but that he was chosen so early, in the third round -- pick No. 101 -- after most experts had predicted he would go no earlier than in the fifth.

``Coach Turner took a gamble on me, as did coach Shanahan, and I don't want to make them look stupid,'' Clarett said.

Shortly after Clarett led Ohio State to the 2002 national title as a freshman, his odyssey began.

He had a minor scrape with the law. He got in trouble for accepting improper benefits and lying about it to investigators, and Ohio State suspended him for the 2003 season.

He sued the NFL, challenging the league's rule that a player must be out of high school for three years before becoming eligible for the draft. One court ruled in his favor, but a higher court overturned the ruling and two appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court failed to reverse that decision.

Another season on the sideline ensued, during which Clarett accused coach Jim Tressel and his staff of arranging for him to get passing grades, cars, and money for bogus summer jobs.

Then came the workouts, which were nothing short of disastrous. He clocked times of 4.82 and 4.72 seconds in the 40-yard run at the NFL combine two months ago and was so distraught, he quit in the middle of the workout.

At another workout, a few weeks later, he improved on the time, but his reputation was cemented -- overweight, too slow and, to top it all off, maybe a quitter, too.

``In 2002, he would have been the steal of the draft and today people are surprised he went on the first day,'' Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage said when the Broncos chose Clarett. ``It's a story that will be followed for a long time.''

In Denver, Clarett has found the perfect place to try to make a comeback, and he has a coach who thinks his experience will work in his favor.

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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> ``Here's a guy who's got his back to the wall,'' Shanahan said. ``He wants to prove he's not a one-year wonder and wants to come out and play at that level again.''

The Broncos turned Terrell Davis into a star after he languished at Georgia and was picked in the sixth round. Mike Anderson. Olandis Gary. Reuben Droughns. All were afterthoughts in the draft, but all ran for 1,000 yards with the Broncos.

None of those players, however, carries the baggage Clarett does.

``His thing is going to be a character thing and Mike will handle that,'' Lions CEO Matt Millen said.

Clarett is, by most accounts, one of the most divisive players in college history.

Not only did he try to flout the NFL and its supposedly sacrosanct rule, he also dissed on his alma mater -- more than once. The first came before the national title game, when he said ``I guess football is more important than a person's life to them,'' because Ohio State wouldn't let him travel to a friend's funeral. The second came with the accusations against Tressel.

He described his comments as simply a matter of ``clearing the air.''

``My relationship with Ohio State is a good one,'' he said.

What he really wants to do is wipe the slate clean and start playing football again.

As expected, two years away has drastically changed his perspective, helping him learn right from wrong and helping him learn to ``mature and grow and accept humility.''

He promised he would not be a problem player anymore, said he couldn't wait to start bonding with teammates again. And if the Broncos tell him he needs to lose weight or run more, he said he'll do it -- no questions asked.

``I think it's a happy ending right now,'' Clarett said. ``I'm in a great system, with a great team that runs the ball. I'm here, living a dream right now in the NFL.''
 
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