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RB Maurice Clarett (B1G Freshman of the Year, National Champion)

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The Miseducation of MoC

The truth is sooner or later you are forced to learn. You either learn from others mistakes or learn from experience. Unfortunately MoC is learning from experience. Going for his Masters from the school of hard knocks.

He should have stayed in school. That is what everyone I know thought was best for him. But he couldn't take being told no, he was going to show everyone what a mistake we made trying to stop him. Well that is a lesson for everyone. Sometimes some discipline is a good thing. Sometimes you must take your medicine. The hip hop generation just doesn't understand that. They would rather listen to people tell them they are great rather than listen to people that will tell them the truth.

He didn't need Ohio State. He was going to show us. Well he showed us what an ass he is, and now the whole nation is hearing HeeHaw HeeHaw. As he tries futal attempts to win a lawsuit that has failed. Everybody look at the Dumbass Moc. Point it out to your kids. Discipline, Humility, and doing the right thing are not overrated!
 
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Mili, I don't feel picked on at all, everyone is allowed to have different viewpoints. I, apparently, have a difficult time explaining what I am trying to argue. I agree with everything you put in your above post. I agree that MoC very well may have been the hardest working Buckeye on the 2002 roster. But, I believe his hard work came from his motivation to play in the NFL, not his motivation to help his team. And along those same lines, my problem with him, and his attitude, is that he can't follow the rules. He couldn't follow the NCAA rules, but that isn't even my point. The NFL says you must be 3 years removed from high school to be eligible. MoC says bullshit, I'm special, I'm talented, and I'm gonna play only one year out. That is what I don't like. There is a very clear path that MUST be taken in order to play in the NFL. It involves staying in shape, practicing hard, and gaining experience at the collegiate level for three years. Why did he think he was entitled to skip all of that hard work and practice? To me, my opinion only, is the attitude I discussed previously--he has a high opinion of himself, and feels he is entitled to the NFL without earning it.
 
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eh... im not going for that fka.. He worked a few years im sure to get into the shape he is in, and appearantly he EARNED something since he was expected to be a first day pick.. im sure some of his motives were selfish but arent everyones? granted i dont think he was the sharpest knife in the drawer but neither were a large number of other players that have come through, i mean think about it. if the rule was different do you think mike williams or larry fitzgerald would have even stayed as long as they did? these guys arent here to get a degree, they are here for the nfl minor league system we are running. He saw the rule as unfair, so do I. He was in a position to challenge it and tried, if he fails then he is the one to suffer.. it was a risk, it doesnt look like it was a good one. Now do i feel sorry for him? not really, im sure he will be making millions either way in a few years. But it is a shame that talent is playing somewhere next year and this past year.. oh well.. dumb kids make some decisions.. he'll be ok.
 
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NFL says you must be 3 years removed from high school to be eligible. MoC says bullshit, I'm special, I'm talented, and I'm gonna play only one year out. That is what I don't like.
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Didn't the city of Motgomery say that Black people had to give up their seats for white people? Do you have a bone to pick with Rosa Parks?
 
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KentStateBuck said:
Didn't the city of Motgomery say that Black people had to give up their seats for white people? Do you have a bone to pick with Rosa Parks?
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Wow, that's a big time stretch. I've not chimed in on the whole Maurice situation either way but I fail to see how trying to gain early entry into the NFL is similar to fighting for racial equality.
 
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You must be joking with the Rosa Parks thing.... right?

Some 14 year olds race cars that go faster than you're allowed to go on the highway. They obviously possess the skill to drive a passenger car, but they're not even allowed to take the test. Why? Because there is a rule that arbitrarily says they must first be 16. If you don't cut it off somewhere (and equally for everyone) it will get out of control.
 
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KentStateBuck said:
Didn't the city of Motgomery say that Black people had to give up their seats for white people? Do you have a bone to pick with Rosa Parks?
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Well, if you're gonna get this worked up, I'll just let this whole argument go. Great analogy, though, that is really a great comparison.

BuckeyeSoldier: I stand by my opinion, but at the same time, I recognize that many people would have done similar things in his shoes. However, there have been a shitload of people in his shoes before, and they all chose to follow the rules. But hey, hopefully there was a lesson learned here, and he will be a better person for it. I know I've sure made my share of mistakes.
 
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KentState,

That's bizarre. The first thing that came to my mind was Rosa Parks as well! Thanks for writing what I was thinking. Sometimes you gotta break the rules to overcome them (not to say that I actually agree with what Maurice did was right -- he shouldn't have broken NCAA rules, but with regards to the NFL ruling I think he had a right to at least try to get the rule changed).
 
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Please for the sake of all things falling under the category of sanity tell me that you people are not serious comparing MoC not getting into the draft to Rosa Parks.

This is not a struggle for racial equality, and to compare it to one is to spit in the face of Rosa Parks, not honor what she did. Maurice Clarett is not fighting to right a wrong that led to years of unnecessary suffering for the African American race, death, murder, horrors unknown to most people alive today - he's trying to whine his way into the backdoor of the NFL. You're comparing the struggle of an entire race of human beings to a game.

A punk kid who caused nothing but trouble wherever he went, whose college career was cut short because he didn't know how to act, and who is now begging and pleading to break rules that were set not out of injustice and unfairness and most CERTAINLY not out of anything as massive as racial prejudice is NO Rosa Parks. Give me a freaking break.
 
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ArtesiaBuckDog said:
This is not a struggle for racial equality, and to compare it to one is to spit in the face of Rosa Parks, not honor what she did. Maurice Clarett is not fighting to right a wrong that led to years of unnecessary suffering for the African American race, death, murder, horrors unknown to most people alive today - he's trying to whine his way into the backdoor of the NFL. You're comparing the struggle of an entire race of human beings to a game.
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I am not speaking for others that made the same analogy, but I personally am not making this into a racial issue. And I'm certainly not dissing Rosa Parks in ANY way. I have my friggin' master's degree in history -- I understand the significance of her to American history. I was simply saying that Maurice is fighting to change something that he feels is wrong, as did Parks. Maurice's fight is on a much smaller and less significant scale, but it's a fight for a right.
 
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Sushi--I certainly didn't ding you for your comments, in fact I have never dinged anyone....but I certainly do not agree with them. Rosa Parks was and is a great symbol for American Civil Rights. MoC's fight is nothing but an attempt to receive something without putting in the effort and time that everyone else did to get there. I see absolutely no basis for comparison. If you argue that MoC is fighting to "right a wrong", so to speak, then there is some small comparison, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion, however, is that MoC's fight has nothing to do with right vs. wrong, it is about nothing but his selfish desire to fight the system by skirting the rules in an attempt to have handed to him what he should have earned through sweat and time.
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
If you argue that MoC is fighting to "right a wrong", so to speak, then there is some small comparison, and everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion, however, is that MoC's fight has nothing to do with right vs. wrong, it is about nothing but his selfish desire to fight the system by skirting the rules in an attempt to have handed to him what he should have earned through sweat and time.
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FKA,

I didn't say that MoC's fight was something I think is right. It is something that HE thinks is right. I agree with you that it is a selfish desire -- and it looks like he's going to be shut out. It's just a shame he didn't play by the rules to begin with and finish out his career at OSU.
 
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