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RB Maurice Clarett (B1G Freshman of the Year, National Champion)

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I don't know Mo personally, but I go to school with a number of his classmates and know a few of his teachers and everyone of them has told me the same thing. That other than being a little bit of a hotshot he was/is very nice kid that has had one burning desire since he was a kid, to play in the NFL.
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It is one thing to have a burning passion for something and wanting to follow your dream, but it seems that MoC just couldn't wait (for a myriad number of reasons). Basically, the concept of delayed gratification is a foreign concept to him. He couldn't wait three years to fulfill his dream!?! And now, after trying to force his way in via the courts, he may well be on his way to not being eligible for the draft until three years after his hs class graduated anyways, albeit, he will be drafted much lower next year than if he had simply played by the rules like everyone else that came before him.

We can lament how this situation is a waste of a tremendous football talent, but the real tragedy is when MoC reached one of the most critical points in his young life, he did not have an adult close to him (i.e., parent) kick him in the ass and give him good sound advice.

I hope things work out for MoC. By all accounts he really is a nice kid. If he has to sit out another year, I hope he comes into the league next year and is very successful and has a long career. In the meantime, I hope he can find some better people to give him advice.
 
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The Marine in me thinks maybe a 4 year enlistment would do him good. Get him away from his friends, family and 'advisors', get some discipline, get into top physical condition, and then try to come into the league the way Mike Williams and a few others have.
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That's gotta be the best advice I've seen yet for MoC. To bad he won't do it - I see him either hanging around the U.S. for another year waiting for the endless appeal process to conclude, or heading north of the border.

It's really a sad story at this point - I truely wish him the best.
 
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From everything I have heard, MoC really is a "nice" kid. But that really doesn't mean anything to me. I feel bad for the kid, but the fact remains that actions speak louder than words, and by his actions, MoC is one of the most selfish people I have seen. He definitely is not alone in this category, but unlike previous "me-first" players, he decided somehow that he was more important than anyone else, and that the rules didn't apply to him. What it boils down to, IMO, is that he felt that he simply didn't have to put in the time and work that EVERYONE else always has. He is now learning that the NFL is not a gift to be handed out to select talents, but a goal that can only be reached through hard work, talent, and dedication. In life, anything worth having is worth working for. Hopefully MoC learned a valuable lesson, and will now work towards his goals, instead of simply expecting them to be given to him. I agree that the kid was given some horrible advice, but in end, it was his decision to make, and he is solely responsible for making it. Hopefully he will be able to rebound from this, but I frankly don't see it, especially with his predisposition towards injury.
 
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MoC is one of the most selfish people I have seen
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More selfish than Kenneth Lay, The Tyco execs, Bill Gates, irish travelers, or for that matter telemarketers that prey on senior citizens. I think what you all are really mad at is that he didn't lead OSU to another NC and give you all some vicarious bragging rights.
 
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I think what you all are really mad at is that he didn't lead OSU to another NC and give you all some vicarious bragging rights.
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No, actually, if you search bucknuts you'll probably find where I posted before the NC run (right after the debacle where MoC was screaming at Tim Spencer during the Wisconsin game) that I would be happy if MoC never played another down in an OSU uniform. Don't get me wrong, I don't wish the kid harm, I just don't agree with his attitude. I hope he is successful, but at the same time, I don't think that he will be.

I'm not trying to hate on MoC, I'm simply expressing my thoughts towards him and his past actions and attitude, along with his apparent lack of a work ethic.
 
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FKAGo, It was the Northwestern game where MoC had the sideline incident with Spencer.

Those of you who are calling him an idiot because he pursued a case that he at first won and then lost on appeal are pretty harsh. And unfortunately, this story may not be over. I'll bet Milstein will want to take it to the Supreme Court.

And for those of you ready to jump and say 'the Supreme Court already rejected the case', not so. They didn't reject the case; 2 justices rejected the motion to overturn the stay by the Court of Appeals that kept him out of draft.

I'm not saying I want to see the case go to the Supreme Court. That would just drag out this sad story, and I think the NFL would win again. I'm just saying that it could happen.

I wish MoC well.
 
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I feel bad for the kid, but the fact remains that actions speak louder than words, and by his actions, MoC is one of the most selfish people I have seen. He definitely is not alone in this category, but unlike previous "me-first" players, he decided somehow that he was more important than anyone else, and that the rules didn't apply to him.

I think saying he's one of the most selfish people you've ever seen is stretching a bit, actually quite a bit. I'm trying to think of one instance of pure selfishness on his part--not childishness or bad choices, but selfishness--and can't think of a one. His outburst on the sidelines at NW wasn't selfishness, but rather unchecked emotion. Same with his hasty criticism of the university bureaucracy concerning the denial of his going to his friend's funeral prior to the Fiesta Bowl. His inflation of the values of the items stolen from the loaner car was to cover the owner's butt and also because he wasn't sure of the actual values. He wasn't even close to being convicted for trying to gain personally from the "bogus" report. As for the investigation into his taking money from a family friend, he was clearly wrong in lying to investigators, but it was more to protect the friend than to save his own ass. He has made some unwise choices, and many of them of apparently been at the encouragement of others (mother, lawyers, etc.). But from what I've seen of him on the field and on the sidelines, he really did care about playing ball for OSU. Nobody here is ragging on Gamble leaving early for the pros (because he didn't have to make a legal challenge) but folks love to rip into Clarett because he wanted to do the same--whether or not it was wise to do so--but had to resort to legal means to accomplish, or try to, that goal.
 
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I can see both sides of the argument here, and I'm hesitant to further defend myself because I really don't want to slam the kid any more. To me, the statements he has made and the actions he has taken speak to me of a selfish desire to make it to the NFL. I don't even necessarily fault him for this, as that is an understandable goal, and one I wish was within my grasp. But I feel that he always placed himself above the team, and viewed tOSU as merely a step along the way. My opinion, he cared ultimately, and only, for getting into the NFL. I do not believe he ever cared about Ohio State, his teammates, or his coaches. Maybe we will have to disagree on that point, and that is fine.

But I do have a problem with comparing MoC to Gamble. Gamble followed the established rules, and worked to achieve his goal. MoC seemed to want the NFL to simply accept him, because he was worthy. He didn't earn anything, and he seemed to feel he didn't need to work to get where he ultimately wanted to be. All in all, I will say this again: I sincerely wish him luck.
 
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But I do have a problem with comparing MoC to Gamble. Gamble followed the established rules, and worked to achieve his goal. MoC seemed to want the NFL to simply accept him, because he was worthy. He didn't earn anything, and he seemed to feel he didn't need to work to get where he ultimately wanted to be. All in all, I will say this again: I sincerely wish him luck.

FKA, I'm not picking on you, but I feel I need to respond to the "work" portion. True, Gamble followed established rules and worked toward his goal, but few players busted their ass more than Clarett. Remember when he ripped into his teammates before the start of the 2002 season? Here was a true frosh who hadn't even seen the inside of The Shoe as a player yet taking charge. He also played hurt, with ripped stitches (Indiana game) and those games with the shoulder stinger. I challenge anyone to name a player on the 2002 team that practiced and played harder than Clarett.
 
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