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RB Ira Guilford (Official Thread)

Re: Originally Posted by tibor75
Pretty sad state of affairs when a student who commits felonious assault on another student ON campus grounds actually can get a free ride to another college. Pathetic. :shake:

RugbyBuck: It is in Philadelphia, after all. The assault is probably what got him the scholly.

He'll fit right in at Temple. Didn't their basketball coach put a player in a game last year with instructions to "assault" an opposing player? Heck, with his background (i.e. felonious assault) Guilford could be a two sport player (football and basketball) at Temple.

Yes. Chaney did just that. He sent in a bench player to hard foul the guy that was eating them alive in the paint. And then suspended himself a game for it. He knew what he was doing was wrong, the player knew it was wrong, but both did it. Very Bowden-esque.

The City of Brotherly Love.
 
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So if an academic scholar who was very advanced and could do great things for the university and make great contributions to society made a mistake when he was a kid should never be given the opportunity for a scholarship because of a mistake???

But hey if he is an athlete the hell with him. Don't follow this logic. I think what he did was gross and it was justified for him to be kicked off the team, but I feel most people deserve a second change.

 
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Perhaps. This is the most recent article I can find....

Guilford's second chance might come in an unlikely place

March 3, 2006
By Dennis Dodd
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

Ira Guilford would look great in the Temple backfield.

Guilford certainly thinks so. The former prep All-American from Hoboken, N.J., says he faxed a National Letter of Intent to the school on Feb. 1. That's where the conversation ends right now, as far as one of the nation's worst programs is concerned.

The Owls could benefit greatly from a 6-foot, 200-pound specimen who was once headed for stardom at one of the nation's best programs -- Ohio State. But there's a reason that Temple doesn't acknowledge Guilford and no recruiting list bears his name. An athlete can only sign one NLI in his career.

It is assumed that Guilford did so when he signed with the Buckeyes in 2003.

But after an arrest in Columbus in 2004, Guilford was suspended and eventually found his way to El Camino College in Torrance, Calif. He played safety there this past fall and is on track to receive his associate's degree this spring.

In fact, Guilford recently won a statewide California junior college student-athlete award. His award bio stated, "He has accepted a full-ride scholarship to Temple University."

Coach Al Golden would not comment on Guilford, who might even be the Owls' starting tailback in the fall. He's that good. But it does Golden no good to acknowledge it. Most likely, Guilford has signed a scholarship agreement with Temple. All that means is, until he actually enrolls at the school, Guilford is still a recruitable athlete. So why cut your throat? If Golden bragged his interest in a former prep star, he would be alerting other schools that could swoop in and steal his prize.

It takes both parties to sign scholarship papers. No one could blame Temple for withholding its signature for now. It's not the best of times for the program to have interest in a prospect that was under house arrest for two months. Temple just got docked those nine scholarships, penalties imposed by the NCAA due to the new Academic Progress Rate evaluation.

Temple football was kicked out of the Big East after the 2004 season. To stay competitive, former coach Bobby Wallace had to recruit more jucos. Some of those were recruited on "faith," according to AD Bill Bradshaw.

The faith was not fulfilled academically.

"We'll hurt in the long run if we don't get it corrected this year," said Golden, who will have only 76 scholarships in his first season as a head coach.

This begs the question Golden has heard a hundred times since he took the job in early December. Why take the Temple job? It has been a coach killer. The school came close to dropping the program before he arrived.

The answer is Golden himself. The 36-year old is like a lot of young coaches who think they can change the world.

Maybe, but Golden can't change the pecking order. The APR accomplished little more than what major football powers have been trying to do for decades: separate themselves from the mid-majors.

The superpowers provide most of the television and bowl content. They don't want to share their booty with the likes of Temple, the MAC -- the Owls' new conference in 2007 -- or any of the other 55 schools below the BCS cut line.

To keep the football factories humming, the major powers spend millions to erect massive academic centers and hire tutors. That keeps their indentured employee-athletes eligible.

But what happens to schools that can't afford such luxuries? The NCAA comes down on the financially strapped have-nots. Not one of the schools that suffered a scholarship loss this week was a BCS-level institution.

"It may be a function of compromise," Golden said. "Some of the have-nots are the last ones to pick (recruits). What do they do, go for the better athlete despite the fact the he might be a risk academically?"

Golden is in the process of answering that question. If there are no more academic casualties, the roster will be up to the 85 maximum in a year. That is if the NCAA doesn't come down on his program again.

Temple fields 21 teams. Twenty of them made the APR cut. Only football didn't. It wasn't just Wallace; it was the athletic department playing along, cutting corners trying to save football.

This is optimism: Golden sees $500 million in school improvements. He is inspired to see a new movie theater and TGI Friday's nearby on the previously undeveloped corner of North Broad and Cecil B. Moore.

"It's a different university than it was 10-15 years ago," Golden said.

He sees all the possibilities but also knows the cold, hard truth: three wins in the last three years and 15 years without a winning season.

It will take all this Golden boy of the profession has to turn it around. A former Penn State player, he rose to become Joe Paterno's recruiting coordinator. In 2001 he was the nation's youngest defensive coordinator at Virginia.

Most of all, Golden can recruit like Tony Soprano can kill. Ruthlessly.

That's why players like Guilford are so important to Temple. Four-star prospects usually don't land there unless John Chaney is recruiting them. Golden, however, knows how to work the system.

Guilford's mother lives in Philadelphia. Coming out of Hoboken, Guilford was rated one of the top 25 high school prospects. He played five games an Ohio State as a ballyhooed freshman in 2003.

But Guilford was suspended in May 2004 along with teammate Louis Irizarry after both were charged with robbery in a mugging incident. Remember, this was in the middle of the Maurice Clarett controversy, when the school was unlikely to cut anyone slack. Guilford never returned to Ohio State.

Guilford spent three days in jail and was sentenced to house arrest and two years' probation. In an essay written recently for that student-athlete achievement award, Guilford said he lapsed into depression.

"He went from being cock of the walk to not knowing a person," said El Camino defensive coordinator Gene Engle. "He was all-everything."

USC looked promising at one point until Guilford found out he was a few credits short. El Camino coach John Featherstone is friends with Pete Carroll and Guilford found his way across town. Guilford eventually became part of a bumper crop of 14 Division I athletes for the Warriors.

He arrived so late on campus that Guilford had trouble picking up the defense, but had enough of a reputation that a couple of Golden's assistants remembered the golden child.

"He didn't even have a place to stay when he came into my office," said El Camino academic counselor Chris Jeffries. "He never tried to hide (his past) from me. He said he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were thinking they were better than everybody. It messed up his life. Now he has a chance of making something of himself."

Will it be at Temple? Guilford certainly thinks so.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9281168/rss
 
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So if an academic scholar who was very advanced and could do great things for the university and make great contributions to society made a mistake when he was a kid should never be given the opportunity for a scholarship because of a mistake???

But hey if he is an athlete the hell with him. Don't follow this logic. I think what he did was gross and it was justified for him to be kicked off the team, but I feel most people deserve a second change.


Made a mistake? Being a felon is called "making a mistake" Comical. Don't "follow that logic"

Why does he need a free ride. Let him pay his own way. He's taking a schlorship from somebody who likely wasn't a criminal.
 
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I think the details of the case and his previous record show it was a mistake, even if it was a felony. I am not 100% sure but I thought the charges were dropped to a misdermeanor??

That is a valid point about taking a scholarship from a person who isn't a felon. Hopefully he has paid his dues, learned his lesson, and will prosper with his second change.
 
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8/10/06

Source: Former Buckeye with legal problem would join Owls

By MIKE KERN

[email protected]

Ira Guilford, a highly recruited two-way back from Hoboken (N.J.) High School who ran into trouble with the law at Ohio State, could be playing on North Broad Street this season.
A source close to the Temple football program confirmed that Guilford has been on campus and could officially join the Owls soon. The source said all the necessary paperwork still needs to be filled out and approved before that can happen. It's a process that could take anywhere from days to weeks.
"He would be a major upgrade for them," said recruiting expert Phil Grosz, who publishes the G & W Report. "When he came out of high school we had him ranked as one of the top free safeties in the country."
In 2003, Guilford played sparingly as a true freshman backup tailback for the Buckeyes. In May 2004, he was arrested and charged with robbery. He pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault, and was sentenced to 2 years' probation and 45' days house arrest. He also was suspended from the OSU squad by coach Jim Tressel.
He played last season at El Camino (Calif.) Junior College, where he won a statewide student-athlete award. For a while, it appeared he might resurface at Southern Cal.
Temple coach Al Golden, who begins his first season on Aug. 31 at Buffalo, cannot comment until Guilford is enrolled in the university.
 
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Guilford may join Owls football team

Compiled By The Inquirer Staff

Ira Guilford may join the Temple football team this season, a person with knowledge of the situation said.
The free safety and running back, a 2003 graduate of Hoboken (N.J.) High School, has been on the Temple campus, the person said, but still needs to have his academic paperwork completed and approved before he can join the team.
Guilford played as a true freshman at Ohio State in 2003 but was suspended from the team in the spring of 2004 after being charged with robbery of a fellow Ohio State student in May 2004. Guilford eventually pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault in the case and was sentenced to two years' probation and 45 days of house arrest.
Last season, Guilford played at El Camino (Calif.) Junior College.
Temple officials said they could not comment on Guilford until he is enrolled.
 
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By MIKE KERN

Owl notes
Ira Guilford, who went to Ohio State in 2003 as a highly recruited running back, won't be coming to Temple afterall. According to Troy University's Web site, he is now a part of that program.

Earlier this month, Guilford had been on the Temple campus. He was suspended by OSU in 2004 following some legal problems, and played last season as a defensive back at El Camino (Calif.) Community College.
 
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12 Ira Guilford 5-11 190 JR RB Hoboken, NJ
http://www.troytrojans.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=16&url_channel_id=15

Practice Notes: Freshman receiver Cornelius Williams (Hoover, Ala.) took several snaps at quarterback on Friday during skeleton passing drills. He was successful during his time, throwing three touchdown passes.
A pair of players left the roster this week. Walk-on running back David Dawson decided to give up football while freshman defensive end Un’tavious Scott failed to qualify academically and is not eligible.
On Sunday the Trojans are expected to add at least 20 new walk-ons to the roster. Those new players will have physicals on Sunday and will be eligible to start practicing on Monday with the start of the fall semester. One of the new walk-ons, defensive lineman Justin Kettles (6-2, 215, Canton, Ga.) was at practice on Friday.
Another addition to the roster is running back Ira Guilford, a transfer from El Camino College in Torrance, Calif., where he played safety last year after transferring from Ohio State. A 5-11, 190-pound junior, Guilford will have two seasons to play for the Trojans.
A native of Hoboken, New Jersey, Guilford was ranked as one of the top prep players in the country in 2002 and played in five games as a true freshman at Ohio State in 2003, rushing 28 times for 64 yards.
After an off-the-field incident in the spring of 2004 resulted in a suspension from Ohio State, he sat out the 2004 season before playing at El Camino last fall. While at El Camino, Guilford earned his associate’s degree and also received the 3C4A Achievement Award from the California Junior College Association for his determination, character and perseverance through adversity.
"We are very selective about who we allow to become a part of our football program, our family, at Troy University," Blakeney said. "Ira Guilford is a good kid who got into a bad situation at Ohio State. He was away from football for a year and a half and has conducted himself very well during that time."
While at El Camino Guilford was praised by both coaches and school administrators for his "honesty, character and ability to motivate others." He has already been admitted to Troy University and is a communications major.
"I am grateful for the opportunity to come to Troy University," Guilford said. "I want to come in and help the team in any way that I can. I have a lot of catching up to do, but I am going to do whatever I can to make the coaches and the University proud of me."



http://www.troytrojans.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=15&url_article_id=1573&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2
 
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I see he's doing decent...on the JV squad. I know Ira is eligible to play as he came from a lower division, so he may be having trouble at LB. 2007 is his last year, hope he makes it a good one.

EDIT: I see this past weekend was his first appearance for the varsity squad.
 
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MaxBuck;587393; said:
Not to trash the young man, but this is quite a euphemism.

agreed. Interesting how people are willing to forgive assault on a campus because an athlete was the one who did the assaulting.

Imagine the reaction if an OSU student had beaten up and robbed an OSU football player instead of the other way around.
 
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