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True but if he gets a judgment, it would be on an intentional tort and likely would be non-dischargeable in bankruptcy (I don't do a ton of bankruptcy, so someone can correct me if I am wrong there). Meaning he can go after that judgment pretty much into perpetuity. Till taps, wage garnishments, etc. all while the judgment accrues interest...I see it happen plenty and it tends to, what is the phrase? Oh yeah "ruin your life." Would the juice be worth the squeeze if it was you or me? Hell no. But if someone did this to me and put me into so much public scorn (on top of all the lost playtime/money) and I was in Zeke's position, I would probably hit the nuclear button. Again, that is premised on actually knowing whether or not she is lying, but if she was, I would have the civil suit in hand for the second after everything with the NFL finally concludes.
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I wonder if Goodell has a "hard on" for OSU guys. First Pryor's punishment and now Zeke's could be considered excessive considering that when the transgressions occurred neither of them had played a down in the NFL.
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Don't forget Tress.....I wonder if Goodell has a "hard on" for OSU guys. First Pryor's punishment and now Zeke's could be considered excessive considering that when the transgressions occurred neither of them had played a down in the NFL.
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...and tressel.I wonder if Goodell has a "hard on" for OSU guys. First Pryor's punishment and now Zeke's could be considered excessive considering that when the transgressions occurred neither of them had played a down in the NFL.
If he were a man, he'd say what this actually was, a body of work penalty, and there would be a lot less controversy. Zeke wouldn't stop being outrageous even when the potential suspension was looming, and that absolutely factored into the decision. But Roger is a unpredictable monarch, so here we are.
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RCSooner1974
Resident of Fansville
Goodell just thinks his overuse of handing players unnecessary excessive punishment is a means of making the entire league fear him. Allow Michael Vick to come back into the league after killing dogs, yet ban Ray Rice from ever playing again or give Zeke Elliott a six-game suspension for a crime he was found innocent of. I find it funny there's nothing to be said about the Josh Brown incident...and he could get picked up by some desperate team in need of a kicker any minute now.
Yep, that's Roger's NFL. Pretty reasonable if you compare it to the Third Reich though.
Yep, that's Roger's NFL. Pretty reasonable if you compare it to the Third Reich though.
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Someone is trying to tell me that zeke told investigators name players dont get tested.. i read the transcript but cant find it.. is this a thing or is someone bullshitting me.
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Jagdaddy
Head Coach
Goodell's a tool, but a few observations:
1. Ray Rice wasn't banned for life. He was just near the end of his useful life as a player anyway and teams decided that his value as a player didn't outweigh the PR consequences of bringing him back.
2. Zeke wasn't "found innocent." Prosecutors didn't think that they could prove a case against him, but lack of guilt in a legal sense isn't a judicial finding that he didn't abuse the woman. That said, given what we know, I personally think that there's enough doubt, and that her motives and actions are screwed up enough, that the suspension is unreasonable.
3. In combination with your post from a few days ago referencing Joe Mixon's "mistake", your sympathy for Ray Rice here suggests that you don't think that punching a woman unconscious is a big deal. To quote Shania Twain, that don't impress me much.
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RCSooner1974
Resident of Fansville
Punching a female IS a big deal. But why was Michael Vick allowed to play again after killing dogs???
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Jagdaddy
Head Coach
Because 18 months in prison (and effectively a two-year suspension from football) seemed like sufficient punishment. If Wikipedia is accurate, the only NFL player banned for life, other than a couple of guys involved in fixing games almost a hundred years ago. is Stanley Wilson, who just kept doing drugs even after being suspended for shorter periods multiple times. Guys have gotten suspension of a season or less for stuff like vehicular manslaughter.
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bucknut502
Hall of Fame
This "allegedly" happened while Zeke was still at Ohio State, correct? Why Is the NFL punishing him?
Based on that, wouldn't Joe Mixon also deserve to be suspended by the NFL for what we all have PROOF of? Because Zeke was not contracted by the NFL when the incident "allegedly" happened.
Based on that, wouldn't Joe Mixon also deserve to be suspended by the NFL for what we all have PROOF of? Because Zeke was not contracted by the NFL when the incident "allegedly" happened.
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RCSooner1974
Resident of Fansville
God! Stanley Wilson was a knucklehead. Why is it the California players always have the most notorious run-ins with the law? Lawrence Phillips, Stanley Wilson, O.J. Simpson, etc.
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