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RB Antonio Pittman (Official Thread)

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In 1975 Archie Griffin won his second Heisman Trophy, and scored a whopping 4 TD's. Pete Johnson that year had 25, Corny Greene had 8. 30 Years have come and gone and I've never heard anyone pitch a bitch about Archie getting "shafted" out of the end zone by Coach Hayes, so I can't say I agree at all with this point of view posted.

You want "unjustice" look to the Chicago Bears and Mike Ditka, giving the ball to "Phat Phuck Phridge" at the one yard line in the Super Bowl instead of Walter Payton. THAT was "unjustice" at it's highest point. Peace.
 
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EngineerHorn said:
Detroit used to do that all the time with Barry Sanders. That drove me crazy. Barry would end the season with 1600 yds and 8 td's and their "goal line back" would end up with 200 yds and 8 td's.
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Engineer - I'm with you on this one. The main problem is that anywhere within 15 yards of the end-zone the "goal line back" becomes Troy on an option run. In other words to buck the trend Pittman is going to have to streak into the end-zone from perhaps 20+ yards out.

Unless Jim specifically calls for an I-formation in the red-zone, or from 1st and goal.
 
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sandgk said:
Engineer - I'm with you on this one. The main problem is that anywhere within 15 yards of the end-zone the "goal line back" becomes Troy on an option run. In other words to buck the trend Pittman is going to have to streak into the end-zone from perhaps 20+ yards out.

Unless Jim specifically calls for an I-formation in the red-zone, or from 1st and goal.
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Well eventually they are not going to bite on the fake pitch and Troy is going to have to pitch it and Pittman is going to scoot into the endzone.

Also we really havent had the ball inside the 5 too many times. Most of the times we have scored have come from farther out.

I can remember one time off my head when we had the ball at the one after Pittman ran it to the one against MSU on our last scoring drive. They gave it to him on first down and he was totally stuffed, so they let Smith run it in on the next play.
 
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EngineerHorn said:
Whoa. When was the last time a back ran for 700 yards without a TD? Ever?

I agree, sort of. It's not so much as rewarding your back as it is keeping the guy in there who's in rhythm and been averaging 5 ypc.

Detroit used to do that all the time with Barry Sanders. That drove me crazy. Barry would end the season with 1600 yds and 8 td's and their "goal line back" would end up with 200 yds and 8 td's.

If your back is averaging 5 ypc and is playing in a big conference, he more than likely has SOME ability to move a pile.
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I was a big fan of Barry Sanders, but he had a high percentage of carries that went for no gain or a loss. I can understand the Lions coaches frequently giving the ball to other backs inside the 5 yard line.
 
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Pittman really, really needs to get the touchdown on his own if he ever wants to rid himself of the "workhorse" running back title. I think he's had ample opportunity to make touchdowns, he just cant seem to make that last guy miss, or juke him out of his shoes. For that matter he doesn’t really seem to posses enough power to simply pound one in for a touchdown in the red zone.

<O:p Its not like we ever had to reward Clarret, Wiley, Combs, Pearson, George, R. Smith, Byars, etc with a touchdown. He's a back that’s supposed to run between the 10's and has yet to bust one for a touchdown? Is that really Tressels fault? I think even Lydell managed to bust one open outside the red zone. Purposely handing him the ball to make sure he gets a touchdown admits that Pittman isn’t a star back, and just another guy to carry the rock. I have no problem with rewarding him, however our remaining schedule would dictate otherwise. Having him bust one for a touchdown is really a spark we've been missing all season, frankly if he did have a few numbers in that TD category I think our L column would be looking a little empty. <O:p></O:p>
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I don't think his mindset is "If I don't score on this play they won't give me the ball". At least, I hope that's not his mindset.
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i don't think so either but it seems when it is 1st and goal and they have three plays to get the touchdown pittman will usually only get one carry (not including the option which troy usually holds onto.) i see tony finally getting in a run of 15+ yds as opposed to punching it in from inside the 5. several times he's been one broken tackle or one final block to breakin it big.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
He has been given carries on the goalline while not very many he has not punched them in.

Also early in the season Schnit was our guy and then he began to fumble so they put Pitt in the game, but usually we let Smith get the td if we are close enough. I guess it is playing the percentages, b/c if you hand the ball off then there is a chance you could lose yardage, but by just sneaking it the ball stays where it is at with a very good chance of advancing it.
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bingo. People might hate that we have more of an athlete than a QB under center, but the kid is a great runner, shifty but can also run you over with his size.

Pittman has had a few chances. It would be nice to see our OL start blowing open holes up the middle once in a while. We always do outside runs with Pittman in the game.
BuckeyeNation27 said:
I don't think his mindset is "If I don't score on this play they won't give me the ball". At least, I hope that's not his mindset.
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That definitely is not his attitude. Against MSU, he got stuffed on first down. They could have afforded another attempt with pittman from 1 yd out on 2nd down. But they went with TS (on the last td of the game), and Pittman ran over to Smith and hoisted him in the air. Same with Ginn when others score. I'm sure both wish they scored more, but both are team-first.
 
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wells said:
Pittman really, really needs to get the touchdown on his own if he ever wants to rid himself of the "workhorse" running back title. I think he's had ample opportunity to make touchdowns, he just cant seem to make that last guy miss, or juke him out of his shoes. For that matter he doesn’t really seem to posses enough power to simply pound one in for a touchdown in the red zone.

<O:p Its not like we ever had to reward Clarret, Wiley, Combs, Pearson, George, R. Smith, Byars, etc with a touchdown. He's a back that’s supposed to run between the 10's and has yet to bust one for a touchdown? Is that really Tressels fault? I think even Lydell managed to bust one open outside the red zone. Purposely handing him the ball to make sure he gets a touchdown admits that Pittman isn’t a star back, and just another guy to carry the rock. I have no problem with rewarding him, however our remaining schedule would dictate otherwise. Having him bust one for a touchdown is really a spark we've been missing all season, frankly if he did have a few numbers in that TD category I think our L column would be looking a little empty. <O:p></O:p>
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Ok, come clean...are you Maurice Wells or Beanie Wells?:biggrin:
 
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I understand the mentality that we should get the touchdown with whoever, as long as we get it. And I agree to an extent. But I feel bad for Pittman when he literally drove the ball almost alone all the way down the field in the first half and when they get inside the ten, Troy does what he does best and throws a pick on that slant to Holmes, which by the way he was locked onto him the entire time because that play had work once earlier. Maybe if Troy would get his head out of his ass and read through his progressions I wouldn't be upset if he's the one who makes the play after Pittman worked hard for the last 70 yards.
 
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