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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
I finally converted and became a Pittman fan while watching the Iowa game. He (IMO) finally started running north/south instead of trying to tap dance his way past the LOS. He has yet to demonstrate that he can break off a long TD run... similar to Wiley until his senior year. He has yet to show (or have the chance to show) that he can slip out of the backfield and become a receiver and with all the attention that is being paid to Holmes, Ginn and Gonzo that play should be there.
Playing mental games, what would Maroney or Hart do with our offense? What would Pittman do in the Michigan or Minnesota line up? I think either of those two backs (Hart or Moroney) would complete the OSU offense. I think Pittman would get playing time, but wouldn't start in those two situations.
Playing mental games, what would Maroney or Hart do with our offense? What would Pittman do in the Michigan or Minnesota line up? I think either of those two backs (Hart or Moroney) would complete the OSU offense. I think Pittman would get playing time, but wouldn't start in those two situations.
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I really don't understand why some of you think Pittman is lacking. Is he going to be a top pick in the NFL Draft? No... but he's a pretty good one for college. The kid faced Texas, who has a great defense, and ran circles around them. Same with Iowa (the back seven is who he faced, and he danced around and ran thru them).
How many 10-15 yard carries does he have to break before he can avoid the "lacks vision" tag?
Maurice Clarett would have probably become one of the all-time backs at OSU had he stayed. Do we say that Huston is lacking because he doesnt' live up to Nuge? No... we judge him as a pretty good kicker. Pittman is also pretty good.
His ability to bounce off of tacklers, and have lots of success running against every opponent in 2005, including Texas and Iowa, proves that he's a lot better than just another good back. I don't think he'll be an all time great, but some on here are giving him far too little credit.
How many 10-15 yard carries does he have to break before he can avoid the "lacks vision" tag?
Maurice Clarett would have probably become one of the all-time backs at OSU had he stayed. Do we say that Huston is lacking because he doesnt' live up to Nuge? No... we judge him as a pretty good kicker. Pittman is also pretty good.
His ability to bounce off of tacklers, and have lots of success running against every opponent in 2005, including Texas and Iowa, proves that he's a lot better than just another good back. I don't think he'll be an all time great, but some on here are giving him far too little credit.
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was Texas not a good performance? I would not anoint anyone after facing Iowa's HS dline, but I think he could have helped us win had he carried it in the place of some of those QB draws.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
i think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves here. granted i completley understand why seeing as how we haven't had a running game in so long anything not for negative yardage is impressive. but heres the deal, we're 4 whole games into his sophmore season. its a little early to be using the "great" word 
. pittman doesn't have the raw athletisism that many "great" backs have. but the kid really seems to "want it". as i have read through this entire thread 2 plays ran through my head over and over again. his run to the 11 where he met the safety head on knocking out the other guys mouthpeice then going for another 5 yards before falling. the other play was a rush inside where there was nothing, him bouncing outside, straightarmed greenway to the ground then falling forward for another ~3 yards after the second contact.
pittman is a bruiser trapped in a scat back body. but if he continues on the trend from last year... he won't be in a scat backs body for long. this kid puts another 10 - 15 pounds of muscle on him and that run to the 11 becomes a td and this whole "great" back debate starts making a whole lot more sense.
the answer to the question is yes, without question pittman can be a "great" back. his raw ability "might" be a little subpar, but he runs bigger than he is. if he changes the "bigger than he is" part, doesn't loose his quickness and speed, and the rest of his tools remain... without question he can be a "great" back.
. pittman doesn't have the raw athletisism that many "great" backs have. but the kid really seems to "want it". as i have read through this entire thread 2 plays ran through my head over and over again. his run to the 11 where he met the safety head on knocking out the other guys mouthpeice then going for another 5 yards before falling. the other play was a rush inside where there was nothing, him bouncing outside, straightarmed greenway to the ground then falling forward for another ~3 yards after the second contact. pittman is a bruiser trapped in a scat back body. but if he continues on the trend from last year... he won't be in a scat backs body for long. this kid puts another 10 - 15 pounds of muscle on him and that run to the 11 becomes a td and this whole "great" back debate starts making a whole lot more sense.
the answer to the question is yes, without question pittman can be a "great" back. his raw ability "might" be a little subpar, but he runs bigger than he is. if he changes the "bigger than he is" part, doesn't loose his quickness and speed, and the rest of his tools remain... without question he can be a "great" back.
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fair enough.. tho I think he did well enough in limited use to validate him. Martins did a great job expressing a similar viewpoint to mine.
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AirForceBuck
No mercy
i think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves here. granted i completley understand why seeing as how we haven't had a running game in so long anything not for negative yardage is impressive. but heres the deal, we're 4 whole games into his sophmore season. its a little early to be using the "great" word
pittman is a bruiser trapped in a scat back body. but if he continues on the trend from last year... he won't be in a scat backs body for long. this kid puts another 10 - 15 pounds of muscle on him and that run to the 11 becomes a td and this whole "great" back debate starts making a whole lot more sense.
the answer to the question is yes, without question pittman can be a "great" back. his raw ability "might" be a little subpar, but he runs bigger than he is. if he changes the "bigger than he is" part, doesn't loose his quickness and speed, and the rest of his tools remain... without question he can be a "great" back.
Very much agreed that him putting on more weight will help him as he is a fit for both the style and carries of a bigback. My only nerves on this one is that we NEED a fast back. We lacked one with Ross once he put on excess weight (to try and be like Eddie George) and Mo Hall. Hall was handy on kick returns and short yardage but nothing to cheer about on offense. Pittman will bulk up and we will then have 2 big backs on the roster with one more bruiser comming in as a frosh (Pittman, Johnson, and Chris Wells). I think the worries will settle though if we can see Mo Wells continue to make progress as a primary speed back and if Haw can regroup himself and get back into the lineup so we can get more breakaway speed. I know somewhere down that roster of ours there has to be a back that can rip up thru the middle at full blast and continue to churn the juices for another 20-25 yards for a TD.
But with all that aside, Pittman is a very fitting back and has done great for this offense. He was a question mark entering the season by many fans and critics - now, a question mark in the backfield is the last place to be seen as Pittman is setting himself up for a nice 1200+ season.
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Pheasant
This space for rent.
Why do we need a speed back? I'm not saying I want a slow one, but how fast does he need to be? I think he's actually the perfect combination of size and speed for this offense. He does have good enough speed to break a longer run, maybe we'll see it this weekend.
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AirForceBuck
No mercy
Personally, I think a speed back would be very handy for reverses from the WR or pulls in which he can get up field just as quick as a DB can. This would help move the chains and shake up the opposing defense rather. Im not taking ANYTHING away from Pittman, Im saying we need to home in on Well's skills and keep advancing them as what he brings is a nice breath of fresh air to this backfield when we feel it is moving a little slow in the games. I think though Pittman is a good size, as stated in my first post, I just want to see some additions of speed backs as well. I dont think we will get any with this recruiting class as many recruits are scared off by Chris Wells #1 rank but we should for the 07 class.
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Somehow I think Pittman's size is just fine. If he can bounce off of Iowa's vaunted LBs, that's plenty big. And I think some guy named Chris Wells will handle the big back duties next year.
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