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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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BuckeyeNation27;1854972; said:
I'm pretty sure they're set with the 19 QBs they have on roster........but AL DAVIS LOVES HIS ATHLETES AND HE'S STUPID IN THE DRAFT SO YA NEVER KNOW!!!!
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stop acting like jokes cease being funny at some point

hey, did you know that Joe Paterno doesn't know how to use technology!?
 
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GeorgiaBuck2;1854424; said:
Watching the BCS Championship Game and I can honestly say that Terrelle Pryor is a better QB than Cameron Newton. If you are watching, all Newton throws to are wide open, uncovered receivers, as well as a boat load of screens. He is the product of a gimmick offense. The things Terrelle does require skill and smarts that an actual QB has to use. Did you see some of TPs throws against Arkansas? He threw some darts in double coverage and was phenomenal. He didn't have a turnover and Newton already has 1. His running has been unsuccessful so far. If you have a disciplined defense, you can stop Newton.

In my opinion, TP is a far better QB than Newton. I bet I'm not the only one.
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A counter argument might be that Newton reads defenses better and throws to the guys who are open . . .

That said, both of them look to me like they have plenty of work to do before they're close to NFL ready.
 
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Terrelle Pryor after three years at Ohio State, compared to other notable "dual threat" quarterbacks after three years (including red shirt seasons and JUCO campaigns), in the following categories: games, total yards, total yards per game, total yards per play, total touchdowns, total touchdowns per game, touchdown to interceptions ratio, completion percentage:


Player...........Games...TotYds...TY/game...TY/play...TotTD...TD/game....TD/INT....Comp%
Terrelle Pryor....39......8,341....213.9......6.84......74.....1.90.....2.19/1.....60.9
Tim Tebow.........41......8,427....205.5......7.29....110......2.68.....6.09/1.....65.8
Tyrod.Taylor......36......5,811....161.4......6.57.....38......1.06.....1.33/1.....55.8
Vince.Young.......24......5,081....211.7......7.31.....43......1.79.....1.00/1.....59.0
Michael.Vick......22......4,822....219.1......7.98.....40......1.82.....1.83/1.....55.6
Troy.Smith........19......1,249.....65.7......6.03.....10......0.53.....2.67/1.....55.7
Cam.Newton.........6........167.....27.8......5.06......4......0.67.......N/A......50.0

Smith and Newton did not see significant playing time during their first three seasons, and their numbers can essentially be discounted.

Of the remaining players, Tebow was clearly the most productive scorer (2.68 TD's per game) and the most efficient passer (65.8 comp pct; 6.09/1 TD's to INT's), and Vick was clearly the most explosive player (averaging nearly 8 yards per play). Pryor's total yards per game are nearly identical with Vick, Young, and Tebow; his touchdowns per game are nearly identical with Vick and Young; and he is clearly a better passer than all but Tebow. Tyrod Taylor definitely lags behind the other four.

Records as starting quarterback through three years:

Michael Vick 20-1 (.953)
Vince Young 17-2 (.895)
Terrelle Pryor 31-4 (.886)
Tyrod Taylor 23-5 (.821)
Tim Tebow 22-5 (.815)
Troy Smith 4-1 (.800)
Cam Newton 0-0 (.000)


Fourth-Year "Breakout Season" Stats for Young, Newton, Smith, and Taylor

Player...........Games...TotYds...TY/game...TY/play...TotTD...TD/game....TD/INT....Comp%
Vince.Young.......13......4,086....314.3......8.51.....48......3.69.....3.80/1.....65.2
Cam.Newton........14......4,327....309.1......7.53.....50......3.57.....4.29/1.....66.1
Troy.Smith........11......2,893....263.0......7.76.....27......2.45.....4.00/1.....62.9
Tyrod.Taylor......14......3,402....243.0......7.38.....29......2.07.....4.80/1.....59.7

By his fourth year, Tim Tebow had already established himself as one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of college football, and Michael Vick was in the NFL. Of the remaining players, all saw huge improvements in their games from year three to year four: Young had arguably the best single season ever for a college quarterback and won a national championship and the Maxwell Award; Newton had a year nearly as good as Young's, and won a national championship and the Heisman Trophy; Smith's solid junior year set the stage for his Heisman run the following season; and Taylor dramatically increased his passing game and established himself as one of the top quarterbacks in the nation.

Some year-three to year-four numbers to consider:

Young increased his total yards from 211.7 per game to 314.3 per game (102.6 yards per game, or 48.5%)
Young increased his total yards from 7.31 per play to 8.51 per play (16.4%)
Young increased his touchdowns from 1.79 per game to 3.69 per game (106%)
Taylor increased his total yards from 161.4 per game to 243.0 per game (81.6 yards per game, or 50.6%)
Taylor increased his total yards frrom 6.57 to 7.38 per play (12.3%)
Taylor increased his touchdowns from 1.06 per game to 2.07 per game (95.3%)
Smith's and Newton's increases were off the charts.

Even though Pryor will be suspended to start the 2011 season, can we expect to see a similar dramatic improvement in his fourth year in the Ohio State program?
 
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Terrelle Pryor after three years at Ohio State, compared to other notable "dual threat" quarterbacks after three years (including red shirt seasons), in the following categories: games, total yards, total yards per game, total yards per pla, total touchdowns, total touchdowns per game, touchdown to interceptions ratio, completion percentage:


Player...........Games...TotYds...TY/game...TY/play...TotTD...TD/game....TD/INT....Comp%
Terrelle Pryor....39......8,341....213.9......6.84......74.....1.90.....2.19/1.....60.9
Tim Tebow.........41......8,427....205.5......7.29....110......2.68.....6.09/1.....65.8
Tyrod.Taylor......36......5,811....161.4......6.57.....38......1.06.....1.33/1.....55.8
Vince.Young.......24......5,081....211.7......7.31.....43......1.79.....1.00/1.....59.0
Michael.Vick......22......4,822....219.1......7.98.....40......1.82.....1.83/1.....55.6
Troy.Smith........19......1,249.....65.7......6.03.....10......0.53.....2.67/1.....55.7
Cam.Newton.........6........167.....27.8......5.06......4......0.67.......N/A......50.0

Smith and Newton did not see significant playing time during their first three seasons, and their numbers can essentially be discounted.

Of the remaining players, Tebow was clearly the most productive scorer (2.68 TD's per game) and the most efficient passer (65.8 comp pct), and Vick was clearly the most explosive (averaging nearly 8 yards per play). Pryor's total yards per game are nearly identical with Vick, Young, and Tebow; his touchdowns per game are nearly identical with Vick and Young; and he is clearly a better passer than all but Tebow. Tyrod Taylor definitely lags behind the other four.

Records as starting quarterback through three years:

Michael Vick 20-1 (.953)
Vince Young 17-2 (.895)
Terrelle Pryor 31-4 (.886)
Tyrod Taylor 23-5 (.821)
Tim Tebow 22-5 (.815)
Troy Smith 4-1 (.800)
Cam Newton 0-0 (.000)


Fourth-Year "Breakout" Stats for Young, Newton, Smith, and Taylor

Player...........Games...TotYds...TY/game...TY/play...TotTD...TD/game....TD/INT....Comp%
Vince.Young.......13......4,086....314.3......8.51.....48......3.69.....3.80/1.....65.2
Cam.Newton........14......4,327....309.1......7.53.....50......3.57.....4.29/1.....66.1
Troy.Smith........11......2,893....263.0......7.76.....27......2.45.....4.00/1.....62.9
Tyrod.Taylor......14......3,402....243.0......7.38.....29......2.07.....4.80/1.....59.7

By his fourth year, Tebow had already established himself as one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of college football, and Michael Vick was in the NFL. Of the remaining players, all saw huge improvements in their games from year three to year four: Young had arguably the best single season ever for a college quarterback and won a national championship and the Maxwell Award; Newton had a year nearly as good as Young's, and won a national championship and the Heisman Trophy; Smith's solid junior year set the stage for his Heisman run the following season; and Taylor dramatically increased his passing game and established himself as one of the top quarterbacks in the nation.

Even though Pryor will be suspended to start the 2011 season, can we expect to see a similar dramatic improvement in his fourth year in the Ohio State program?
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