QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[OregonBuckeye]

Just was talked about on PTI, about his statement on how he could dominate if he was in a different system. Tony was sticking up for him and Wilbon was just the opposite and thinks were going to lose our bowl 72-14.

Wilbon's a bitter Northwestern fan. Who could blame him after the way Tressel did things to NU that would make even the most hardened criminals uneasy?

 

[osucollegebuck]

The TP hate is off the charts. I can't even listen to the post game show when they take phone calls because it even comes from Buckeye fans. It drives me crazy!!!

 

[Steve19]

I don't watch this program, but I caught Wilbon's comments last night. He was not a hater. What he said repeatedly was that Pryor was "a winner". "30-4, man!". A winner.

But, he said that he is not as good as Newton and that he is not as good a passer as a few others. The final comment was "...we all know how that story ends. Lose your bowl game 70-14." He did not say that Ohio State would lose to Arkansas by that score, but put himself in a position to say that he predicted it, if a blowout did occur.

I believe that Mr Pryor will be emphasizing the veracity of his first set of assessments and that the Buckeyes will not be reminding anyone of his final comment.

I went to look at the ESPiN site to see if something else had come up about this and there is a poll about who is the best team outside the top 3 (interesting that they don't ask people about the top team outside the top 2, isn't it?). Out of five teams, Ohio State comes dead last. In every state.

My point. Mr Pryor and the Buckeyes have a great opportunity to do their talking on the field. The world isn't quite as anti-Pryor as others think.

 

[scooter1369]

RichRod rode Robinson's legs all season hoping by maybe getting enough play out of him, he could save his own job, Robinson's future and health be damned. And by the end of the season, we could see the result, Robinson couldn't survive a game against a defense with a pulse.

Tressel and crew however, are not desperate to save their corner offices, because they don't use up a QB in the manner RichRod did. Pryor, this time next year, will be primed to enter the draft a legit QB prospect, prepared for the demands of the NFL. sCam Newton, DRob and the like will be looking for work as back up kick returners and 5th string WRs

 

[jimotis4heisman]

Terrelle Pryor's snub on the Big Ten all-conference football teams still stings, if a recent interview with the Chicago Tribune is any indication. Pryor is one of three finalists (with Purdue defensive end Ryan Kerrigan and Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson) for the Silver Football Award, given by the Tribune every year to the Big Ten's top player.
But the Ohio State quarterback didn't make the first or second teams in selections by the league's media or coaches, and he made it clear that he thinks he could do a better job than Heisman Trophy favorite Cam Newton of Auburn and the all-conference QBs - Dan Persa of Northwestern, Robinson and Scott Tolzien of Wisconsin - if he were running their offenses.
"I'll put it like this," Pryor told the newspaper. "You put me in any of their offenses - any of them - and I'd dominate. I'd dominate the nation. What those guys do, that's what they're supposed to do. You put me in any of their offenses, where I can run the ball and have a choice to throw, I would dominate college football."
The Tribune story pointed out that Pryor didn't begrudge the others' success and offered congratulations on their seasons. And it noted that he is grounded enough to say that he's not ready for the NFL, saying, "I need to grow up a little more as a quarterback."
But his frustration was still obvious, in part because he can't figure the means for judging him - he is ranked 14th nationally in passing efficiency - and in part because of his record in his three years as a starter for the Buckeyes.
"We could have done better, but I'm 30-4," Pryor said. "I want nothing else but to win. If I was having a lot of stats and I was losing, I would really be kind of mad. My competitive nature wants just to win, by any means. That's all I really care about."
[more rumblings but this is the only one dealing with pryor]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...0/rumblings-12-10-art-g08at2go-1.html?sid=101

 

[BuckNut65]

TP is going to have to develop some thicker skin if he is going to even survive at the next level. While I don't agree with a lot of the criticism that is being thrown his way, it is something that is not going to go away. When and if he begins to play consistently against good football teams, the respect and recognition will come his way.

At the NFL level they don't care who you are or where you come from, they just want results. If you don't produce them then you are going to hear about it from the fans and the media. If he thinks it is bad now it is only going to be worse...just ask Vince Young....and look at how he has responded to that type of criticism and scrutiny.

 

[y0yoyoin]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...0-pryor-second-for-tribune-award.html?sid=101

Ohio State's Pryor second to Robinson for Silver Football

Friday, December 10, 2010 09:08 AM
By Tim May

The Columbus Dispatch


At least Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor was solidly in the running this time, but he still fell short of a major postseason award. The Chicago Tribune announced this morning that Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson is the winner of the 2010 Silver Football, which annually goes to the top player in the Big Ten.
The Michigan sophomore, who became the first player in major college history to run for more than 1,500 yards and pass for more than 2,000 in a single season. "narrowly beat out ... Pryor in the voting," the Tribune said in a story. "Both received three first-place votes from Big Ten coaches (who are not permitted to vote for their own players), but Robinson got two second-place votes to Pryor's one."
The third-place finisher is Purdue defensive end Ryan Kerrigan, and Wisconsin quarterback Scott Tolzien is fourth. The Tribune added that Wisconsin defensive end J.J. Watt and Northwestern quarterback Dan Persa, who missed the the last two games after suffering a ruptured Achilles' tendon while throwing the game-winning touchdown pass against Iowa, each received one first-place vote.

 

[exhawg]

TP is going to have to develop some thicker skin if he is going to even survive at the next level. While I don't agree with a lot of the criticism that is being thrown his way, it is something that is not going to go away. When and if he begins to play consistently against good football teams, the respect and recognition will come his way.

At the NFL level they don't care who you are or where you come from, they just want results. If you don't produce them then you are going to hear about it from the fans and the media. If he thinks it is bad now it is only going to be worse...just ask Vince Young....and look at how he has responded to that type of criticism and scrutiny.

I'm sure Lebron would have TP's back if anyone on ESPN speaks poorly of him.

 

[RugbyBuck]

Denard is a clown. Period.

Pryor is absolutely right. He would dominate college football in other "systems" or gimmicks. He's chosen (thankfully) a different path and is still within shooting distance of that kind of domination. Here's hoping he keeps his head on straight and unleashes calm, cold, severe, and cruel domination on the Hogs.

Oh, yeah, fcuk you, Wil(Cinna)bon.

 

[FrancisSoyer]

On the radio, it sounds like a lot of people (The Common Jerk and the Turd, Demitrius Stanley, etc) are interpreting his statements as regret and jealousy. He picked the path of most resistance to improve his chances of getting to the NFL. He is working continuously on improving his weaknesses rather than relying on his strengths to carry him to the Championship game or to the stage to accept his Heisman. It was his choice. TP is absolutely right: he would dominate like Cam or Denard had he chosen the path of least resistance in a gimmicky offense. He sees the big picture and knows that he'll make it to the NFL and he'll own a lot of records at OSU when all is said and done. Just stay off Twitter, TP, and the rest will take care of itself. :tongue2:

 

[WolverineMike]

I have to think the media just salivates any time they get an interview with TP. He doesn't have much of a filter in my IMO . Can't argue with his end results though. He's the man.

 

[Tlangs]

Somehow Cam Newton is getting sympathy and TP is the villain....color me confused.

 

[Tlangs]

I would prefer he keep his mouth shut. He should know that saying "I would dominate college football if....." will definitely be taken the wrong way by 90% of the media.


Hopefully he dominates the Sugar Bowl.

 

[dragurd]

He and Posey have a bit of trouble with all the criticism directed at them. Overly caught up in the haters as they say it but this statement when you read it in full isn't nearly as bad as it's made out to be. He was just commenting on the lack of awards and that if he ran in a system like Oregon, Auburn, Michigan he'd have insane numbers too. no more no less. Some media have tried to spin it from anything from jealous of Newton to somehow criticizing Tressel for not using him right. I see none of the above just a simple statement of fact that system QB's put up better stats then they would elsewhere because of the system.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/12/10/...e-out/landing.html?blockID=370427&feedID=3724

By Bruce Hooley
FOX Sports Ohio
Friday, Dec. 10, 2010

As difficult as it is to tackle Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor one on one in the open field, it?s even harder to shut him down whenever there?s a microphone or notepad in front of him.

Despite all the considerable efforts by Ohio State officials to restrict Pryor?s access or polish his public persona, he inevitably escapes and almost always causes a more eye-opening reaction with his words than his actions on the field.

Pryor is quite the gadfly on Twitter, taking aim at his critics via his account, @TPeezy2, as he did after the Buckeyes? 20-17 victory at Iowa on Nov. 20.

?None of you haters could fill my shoes with 10 socks on. Bums,? he tweeted.

That post was deleted, as was another in which Pryor took issue with the analysis of ESPN?s Kirk Herbstreit, whom TP called ?a fake Buckeye? for daring to question the quarterback?s chippy sideline demeanor.

This week, Pryor sent OSU?s small army of NCAA rules compliance officials scrambling when he promised to give away two tickets to the Sugar Bowl on Twitter.

He since has been told he can?t do that, for fear it might compromise his eligibility should an agent or booster win the seats.

When he failed to make first- or second-team all-Big Ten, Pryor tweeted: ?Damn. I must be the worst quarterback/player. I might quit football.?

While no doubt an irritant to Ohio State, Pryor?s Twitter missteps at least can be stricken from the record.

His ill-chosen words aren?t as easy to eradicate, and he let loose a stream of them this week to the Chicago Tribune.

Asked about how he would fare if operating an offense like Auburn?s Cameron Newton, Michigan?s Denard Robinson or Northwestern?s Dan Persa, Pryor told the Tribune:

?I?ll put it like this: You put me in any of their offenses ? any of them ? and I?d dominate. I?d dominate the nation. What those guys do, that?s what they?re supposed to do in their offense. They carry the ball 30 times a game. I carry the ball maybe five times. There are times I didn?t even run the ball. You put me in any of their offenses, where I can run the ball and have a chance to throw, I would dominate college football.?

Pryor obviously believes Ohio State?s offense is holding him back, which must drive Ohio State coach Jim Tressel crazy for an assortment of reasons.

First, Tressel abhors his players speaking candidly about what they could do if only they were given more opportunities to shine individually. Coaches in every team sport are funny that way.

Second, Tressel said earlier this year OSU?s best play was allowing Pryor to scramble and make something happen on the fly, so it?s not like the head man has handcuffed his quarterback.

Third, Pryor said when he came to Ohio State that the reason he rejected Michigan and Oregon was because he didn?t want to run the spread offense, but develop into an NFL quarterback.

What Pryor told the Tribune is a direct shot at his head coach and the Ohio State offensive staff. How could it be taken any differently, when Pryor emphasized three times that in ?any? of the offenses in question he would ?dominate" college football?

What Pryor campaigned for ? making himself the focal point ? is exactly what Ohio State has done virtually from the day he reported to campus.

Trouble is, it hasn?t worked as well as when he?s asked to do less and his teammates more.

Did Tressel not change OSU?s approach Pryor?s freshman year upon inserting him as the starter in the season?s fourth game?

Yes, he did, shelving the downfield passing game the Buckeyes featured with Todd Boeckman under center to go with shorter throws, roll-outs and plays with a run-pass option tailored to Pryor.

Did Tressel last year not put virtually the entire offense on Pryor?s abilities before he committed four turnovers in an inexplicable loss at Purdue?

Yes, he did, and when OSU reverted to a tailback-oriented offense thereafter, it became much more effective on offense.

Did Tressel this season not again try an all-TP-all-the-time approach until Ohio State lost at Wisconsin?

Getting opportunities to shine has never been Pryor?s problem. Delivering on those opportunities in big games, and taking personal responsibility when he doesn?t, has been the problem he?s so far unable to shake.

Pryor rushed 18 times for 56 yards at Wisconsin and went 14 of 28 passing for 156 yards and one interception. Those numbers almost exactly match his career average in games against ranked opponents.

The only time he?s produced a Newton-type performance on the big stage was in the Rose Bowl at the end of last season, when Pryor went 23 of 37 for 266 yards and two TDs and rushed for 72 yards on 20 carries. He was outstanding in that 26-17 victory over Oregon, which turned on a jump ball he threw up for grabs on the clinching touchdown drive that 6-foot-6 tight end Jake Ballard

plucked out of the air for a 24-yard gain.

Ballard saved Pryor?s bacon on that play, just as Dane Sanzenbacher saved him numerous times on acrobatic catches this season.

Pryor seems to forget that the teammates he berates on the sideline when he throws an interception are the same guys who spare him turnovers from time to time.

He surely forgot that earlier this season upon stating his reasons for wanting to come back for his senior year.

?I?m a Buckeye until I break all the records,? Pryor said. ?I want to leave a legacy here, maybe someday get my jersey hung up. That?s one of my goals, as well.?

Was there anything in there about winning a national championship? Anything at all that was team related?

Humility apparently is not in Pryor?s arsenal, but we knew that when Wisconsin administered a 31-18 beat down in Madison in October and Pryor said within the next week, ?They weren?t better than us. Everybody knows that if we play nine out of 10 times, we?d beat Wisconsin.?

Only if they put ball in your hands, right, Terrelle?

probably the biggest ream job of an ohio state athlete by a member of the local media that i can recall in a long time...