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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

BB73;1576232; said:
Among Big Ten QBs. Terrelle is now 4th in passing efficiency (he led the league last year). I've always believed that PE rating and W-L record are the best ways to evaluate QBs.

Behind Clark (PSU), Cousins (MSU), and Tolzien (Wiscy).

That means he's ahead of Stanzi (Iowa), Elliott (Purdue), and Tater Tot (TSUN). Juice Wiliams and Adam Weber are having bad years, and we'd expect a tOSU QB to be ahead of the guys at NW'ern and Indiana.

Look for Forcier's to plummet, that dude looked very uncomfortable in cold weather and it will only get colder.
 
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Steve19;1575732; said:
Despite the good game, I am a bit disappointed that, after the opening drive, Ohio State did not have more long, sustained drives. I hope that next week Pryor has a chance to lead us down the field in a few of those, rather than the 3 and out or 4 and score type drives. He needs to get the feel of running the offense like that and keeping them on the field, in my opinion.

Understandable - Highly unlikely that OSU will have similar results against PSU's and Iowa's defenses.

Gotta admit, though...those quick scores sure look good on highlight reels (especially after the recent beatings OSU took from the critics).
 
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What impressed me the most about Pryor this weekend was his mechanics. I didn't see his footwork break down or his decision making go to hell when there was pressure in his face. This was probably the most poised I had seen him all year. I hope that this trend continues and instead of focusing on his mechanics during practice, those sort of things can turn to basic and we can see him evolve into a quarterback with athletic ability.
 
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It was awesome to see Terrelle succeed yesterday and see his reaction from it. He was up and down the sidelines cheering on the defense and rallying the offense when Minny would turn it over. That's the attitude that he has to have instead of the mopey, angry TP that won't speak to anyone on the bench. Seeing him enjoy the game made me enjoy the game that much more. I'm real excited for Saturday to see how he comes out after that confidence boost from yesterday.
 
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osucollegebuck;1576236; said:
Look for Forcier's to plummet, that dude looked very uncomfortable in cold weather and it will only get colder.

Hey, Tater says he's good to go!

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I heard more than a few people say that Pryor had a bad game yesterday. Bad, as in.. not good and deserving a benching for performance, rather than because of a blowout.

Unfortunately, it seems that the haters will not go away no matter what happens. They could not be reasoned with. "He's a sophomore." "He had a good game." "He looked much better throwing and running." "He was more decisive when choosing when to run or pass."

None of those mattered.

I'm glad he doesn't care about stupid people being stupid.
 
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3074326;1576317; said:
I heard more than a few people say that Pryor had a bad game yesterday. Bad, as in.. not good and deserving a benching for performance, rather than because of a blowout.

Unfortunately, it seems that the haters will not go away no matter what happens. They could not be reasoned with. "He's a sophomore." "He had a good game." "He looked much better throwing and running." "He was more decisive when choosing when to run or pass."

None of those mattered.

I'm glad he doesn't care about stupid people being stupid.
You are allowed to dropkick people that are ignorant.
 
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3074326;1576317; said:
I heard more than a few people say that Pryor had a bad game yesterday. Bad, as in.. not good and deserving a benching for performance, rather than because of a blowout.

Unfortunately, it seems that the haters will not go away no matter what happens. They could not be reasoned with. "He's a sophomore." "He had a good game." "He looked much better throwing and running." "He was more decisive when choosing when to run or pass."

None of those mattered.

I'm glad he doesn't care about stupid people being stupid.

If having the 8th most total yards in OSU single game history is bad, some people will never be satisfied.
 
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Yeah I also ran into FANS saying that they aren't impressed at all because it was Minnesota. I felt like i was trying to explain to scUM fans why this weeks performance was impressive. I actually was saddened by the way they reacted and understand why there are fans of other programs that laugh at our fanbase. 8th best performance shouldn't matter who you are going against... OSU has played 8 worse teams than Minnesota, yet people shrug it off so they can bash him again later. They said "Well if he beats PSU/Iowa/scUM then I'll think he's doing better. Give me a F-in break.
 
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craigblitz;1575666; said:
The crow post, the fans on the radio, the national shows etc

And a lot of the same mistakes today. But I think we bot agree he made some better decisions today.

Agreed, but this is the reason I qualified my statement. Can this be maintained when there is a defense that can get pressure on him and take away more of the field then 'Sota can. I disagree the he did not play well vs Indiana and Toledo. I think he does great when there is little pressure on him and he has shown that.

I think we both agree if he can maintain and keep improving on his decision making the strides and progress we all want for him will begin to happen.

I really like this post, and would expand it to include OSU's offensive scheme generally. When the OL protects the QB long enough for WRs to get open and gets some push, the offense can work fairly well despite what I feel are long-standing philosophical and schematic flaws (e.g., no real screen game, few easy automatic check-downs, no tempo changers like quick snaps or true hurry-up no huddle offense) that inevitably get exposed when an opposing DL is good enough to take it to the OSU OL (I know saying the offense works when the OL performs and doesn't when it doesn't is a "no duh" observation, but IMO OSU does less schematically or in play calling to adjust or help out the OL when they're having a rough match-up than most other teams do). This week the OL played very well IMO.

As for Pryor, other than his indecisiveness in choosing run-pass (definitely better this week), lack of physicality when running for a guy his size, and staring down of primary receivers (which I was hoping he'd be cutting down on by now) I haven't been that critical as I don't think the staff is developing him very well or scheming to his strengths (although the designed roll outs were an improvement this week). He is unquestionably physically able to make any throw and seems to be quite accurate when he isn't pressured much and his mechanics don't break down. Also, given how little he threw in high school or last year, I hardly expected him to be a finished product at this point.

While I do think this week's "improvement" had a lot to do with a lousy opponent and only a little to do with OSU, I give much credit to Pryor for bouncing back and showing some mental toughness: I truly thought that the staff might have ruined him for good last week . . . and I was wrong.
 
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NateG;1576359; said:
Yeah I also ran into FANS saying that they aren't impressed at all because it was Minnesota. I felt like i was trying to explain to scUM fans why this weeks performance was impressive. I actually was saddened by the way they reacted and understand why there are fans of other programs that laugh at our fanbase. 8th best performance shouldn't matter who you are going against... OSU has played 8 worse teams than Minnesota, yet people shrug it off so they can bash him again later. They said "Well if he beats PSU/Iowa/scUM then I'll think he's doing better. Give me a F-in break.
I agreed with this school of thought until Steve's post - TPs performance was right in line with every other offenses preformance against Minny this season.

While I understand you, and don't necessarily disagree - there is some merit to the "it was just Minny" argument. However, I would be willing to bet that 99% of the people who use such an argument don't know the actual FACTS Steve posted and are just blabing.

With that said, TP did infact look much better. Admittaly, it's hard to look much worse than 4 turnovers (should have been 6). He seemed to step forward and deliver the ball with solid feet and also didn't have as much trouble deciding when to throw and when to pull it down and run.

He had some more "flashes" this week and made some money throws. I was impressed, Minny or not.
 
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Then before Saturday's game, Pryor spoke with former Ohio State quarterback and 2006 Heisman Trophy winner, Troy Smith.

"I talked to Troy this morning and had a good quarterback-to-quarterback talk," Pryor said. "It helped me."

thats the guy ive been wanting to hear about talking to pryor. if anyone has been in the same situation who is in the right position to give pryor advice, its troy smith. hopefully their communication continues.

NateG;1576359; said:
They said "Well if he beats PSU/Iowa/scUM then I'll think he's doing better. Give me a F-in break.

if thats their response then your wasting your time. its been rather eye opening to me that the majority of football fans don't actually know anything about the game.

wins and losses isn't a very effective way to evaluate a football player. if they were that would likely make barry sanders the single worst football player in the history of the nfl. when the coaches sit down to grade out pryor's performance the final score isn't going to help his grade any. his pass rating, number of tds, or # of appearances on sports center highlight reels aren't going to get him anything either. completion # isn't even a good measure. imo pryors best pass of the day was an incompletion. so do i count that play as a negative because posey couldn't hang onto the ball/the cb make a heck of a play? or do i try to reinforce that he did every single thing right on that throw?

did he read the d properly?
did he make the right adjustments?
blitz recognition
mechanics?
feet
hips
shoulders
delivery
ball placement
did he go to his check downs properly?
did he go through his progressions?
did he look off his receivers?
was he a leader?

i said it before and ill say it again. 09 minny is the best game of pryor's career thus far and im very excited to see how he continues to progress.
 
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