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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

jwinslow;1569980; said:
TP is playing tight right now, but he didn't simply buckle under the pressure. He kept fighting and gave OSU a chance late. Time to work on the rest.

They did do some encouraging things at the end...especially with the 5 wides. Would like to see them do this a little more often. I agree about TP, even with all of his struggles today he kept fighting and didn't cave. Coaches need to start building his confidence back up someway somehow.
 
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Cmon guys...TP looked fairly good today...Yeah he made a couple bad decisions, but this game was not on TP...

Team game today...Defense didn't get offense back on the field! play calling sucked! O-line played terrible! WR's didn't get open!

It was perfect storm, don't put this on TP's shoulders, the guy that every one will be on his nuts while he is taking us to the promise land next year...

Let the team grow...Don't hammer on a guy while he is down!
 
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crazybuckfan40;1570056; said:
Cmon guys...TP looked fairly good today...Yeah he made a couple bad decisions, but this game was not on TP...

Team game today...Defense didn't get offense back on the field! play calling sucked! O-line played terrible! WR's didn't get open!

It was perfect storm, don't put this on TP's shoulders, the guy that every one will be on his nuts while he is taking us to the promise land next year...

Let the team grow...Don't hammer on a guy while he is down!
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Two interceptions and two fumbles is not good. The offense started clicking in the fourth quarter and he had some good moments but I hope this goes down as the worst game of his career.

Don't worry. We don't let anyone bash players here.
 
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Steve19;1570091; said:
Two interceptions and two fumbles is not good. The offense started clicking in the fourth quarter and he had some good moments but I hope this goes down as the worst game of his career.

Don't worry. We don't let anyone bash players here.

I understand what you are saying, but two fumbles...one on playaction, and he was hit right after the playaction, and one on screen play where he was hit before he even had time to release the ball...

One INT on TP for sure...the other was a great play, on a quick play becuase he was getting no time...

I am not saying TP played great, but he showed signs if given time, he can throw the ball, the playcalling was decent at times, the line was decent at times...

What I am saying is that it was not all on TP...
 
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crazybuckfan40;1570106; said:
I understand what you are saying, but two fumbles...one on playaction, and he was hit right after the playaction, and one on screen play where he was hit before he even had time to release the ball...

One INT on TP for sure...the other was a great play, on a quick play becuase he was getting no time...

I am not saying TP played great, but he showed signs if given time, he can throw the ball, the playcalling was decent at times, the line was decent at times...

What I am saying is that it was not all on TP...

We agree that it is not all on TP. But he didn't play fairly well and few others on the offensive team did today. They are young and their youth showed today. We don't need to sugar-coat it. We got beaten by a better team on the day. We have a young QB and he does not walk on water.
 
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jwinslow;1569980; said:
TP & the offense obviously have major issues to address... but it was encouraging to see them rally for three late drives.

TP is playing tight right now, but he didn't simply buckle under the pressure. He kept fighting and gave OSU a chance late. Time to work on the rest.

Anything could be considered positive compared to what I watched the first 3 quarters. Like someone else posted: One of the best plays he made was when he actually threw it away as opposed to throwing it up for anybody to get it. That's bad when that's one of his better plays of the game.

He wasn't exactly leading the troops and getting everyone on the sideline on the same page either after his mistakes. I saw a lot of him sitting by himself pouting on the sideline. It wasn't until they started to make a little comeback in the 4th quarter that I saw him looking @ pictures, talking to coaches, other players and getting into the game. Maybe he should step up, be a man, and try being a leader and not sulking over his mistakes. Maybe then they wouldn't have been in that position against an inferior team @ the end of the game.

And what is the point of having an athletic/mobile quarterback that's affraid of getting hit anyway?
 
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crazybuckfan40;1570106; said:
I understand what you are saying, but two fumbles...one on playaction, and he was hit right after the playaction, and one on screen play where he was hit before he even had time to release the ball...

One INT on TP for sure...the other was a great play, on a quick play becuase he was getting no time...

I am not saying TP played great, but he showed signs if given time, he can throw the ball, the playcalling was decent at times, the line was decent at times...

What I am saying is that it was not all on TP...


Still seems like an excuse though. Two fumbles and two interceptions, no matter how they were done still need to have someone be held accountable for them. If Bauserman was the QB and he had one fumble or one interception we would be screaming for Tressel to replace him with someone who could do the job. I think Pryor could be a hell of a player, but with what I have seen he is going to need to change alot of things. He gets way too emotional for his own good. All the defense has to do is look at his face and see that he is frustrated to realize that they are doing a good job. He tends to be overly emotional with everything, and if something goes wrong, it tends to carry over into the next play. He needs to learn how to play with this emotional fire, but not let it consume him because if he plays under control he can make plays. Thats all I am going to say now because this was probably one of the worst QB days in terms of making errant throws and poor decisions that I have seen since the Bellisari days. Hopefully the coaching staff and Pryor both learn from the last two days and realize just how bad we currently are on offense in terms of QB play and leadership.
 
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You mention Pryor's emotional demeanor. I don't know if he has a psychological coach, but he needs one. He's young and under a lot of pressure. Too many golden comparisons to live up to perhaps?

I am reminded of a former world #1 golfer, Ernie Els. When a young Ernie played with Jack Nicklaus, Jack said that he expected Ernie to exceed what he had accomplished. What happened? Ernie lacks the mental strength of Tiger Woods. If he starts a round and gets a few bogeys, he gets down on himself and doesn't play well the entire round. Woods takes it as a challenge and responds.

The difference between Tressel and Carr was the same.

It is far too early for anyone on this board who is not personally in contact with Pryor to characterize his emotional strength. However, it is a possible concern that I am sure that the coaches are considering.
 
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crazybuckfan40;1570056; said:
Cmon guys...TP looked fairly good today...Yeah he made a couple bad decisions, but this game was not on TP...

Team game today...Defense didn't get offense back on the field! play calling sucked! O-line played terrible! WR's didn't get open!

It was perfect storm, don't put this on TP's shoulders, the guy that every one will be on his nuts while he is taking us to the promise land next year...

Let the team grow...Don't hammer on a guy while he is down!

The offense really struggled due to primarily the O-line. Tackles Adams and Shugarts have had two very forgettable games, as has TP. I liked what I saw from TP in the final quarter, but his decision making for the other 3 quarters leaves a lot to be deired. Terrelle needs to be knocked down before he is built up, and I think this game may well do the trick. We will see.....I still think that next year is gonna be huge for us and for Terrelle, but I am truly worried whether the O-line will be ready or not.
 
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Jaxbuck;1569996; said:
What is it specifically you see improvement on?

Some might disagree but his throwing motion is better than last year. There are passes that he throws that are downright poor but keep in mind where he was last year again USC. He has come a long way but still has a long way go. I think that is why people are so frustrated.
 
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Steve19;1570115; said:
We agree that it is not all on TP. But he didn't play fairly well and few others on the offensive team did today. They are young and their youth showed today. We don't need to sugar-coat it. We got beaten by a better team on the day. We have a young QB and he does not walk on water.

I think a lot more goes on the coaches than the players. When your offense's average national ranking over the last 9 years is 70th, it isn't any one player or QB. It suggests a systemic problem, particularly in light of the talent on the field.
 
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Jake;1570155; said:
I think a lot more goes on the coaches than the players. When your offense's average national ranking over the last 9 years is 70th, it isn't any one player or QB. It suggests a systemic problem, particularly in light of the talent on the field.

Yeah, them too. We have a gifted athlete at QB and lots of talent.
 
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