QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[GrizzlyBuck]

Those who can do it, do it, those who can't (or are too old to do it anymore) teach it, and then there are those who wish they were good enough to do it or teach it, but alas, they are inept, ignorant and all that is left is to write about it.

TP has a fire in him reminiscent of Troy, the difference may be that by the time any of the morons in the media wanted to talk to TS, he had been indoctrinated in Tresselspeak. I'll take TP's fire and confidence anyday, the penalty in the Jersey Scrimmage may have been a blessing in keeping his fire tempered to smoldering heat.

 

[TheIronColonel]

[sarcasm]Ken is right. I heard that Tressel tossed TP from the spring game! Get that kid under control![/sarcasm]

 

[1926Buckeyes]

I don't think Pryor's 'temper' is really that serious. He seems to jaw sometimes but nothing too serious and he does use it to make it better. He will have to keep it under control though, but that really doesn't seem to be a problem.

I would've hoped people in the media would've been talking more about his great improvements in the passing game than this. Reminds me of the guy who wrote about the spring game only to bitch about the 'typical big ten score' when it was still 3-0 and didn't even mention Pryor and the two TDs he had before the half.

 

[martinss01]

Pryor: Hard on himself, but woe to outside critics (Blogging the Buckeyes)

i too am a member of the media mr. pryor. and i for one do not believe you are capable or good enough to win 3 heismans and back to back to back nc's while at tOSU. further, i know for a fact you don't have it in you to give me 10 million dollars after you sign a stupid lucrative contract with some nfl franchise. go ahead, prove me wrong. if you can.

honestly i didn't see anything in that story that made me think there was something to worry about here. ok, he took a shot at mark may. if you look back at his exact quote on the subject it was rather harmless really. so he got flagged for talking smack during an intersquad scrimmage. again, not something i intend to spend a lot of time worrying about. what did he do? pop a yo mamma crack to gibson? until he gets flagged in a game im not going to worry about it. his only real problem isn't so much what he says but rather his word usage. something i suspect we will all see a significant improvement on by the end of the season/begining of 2010. right around the end of their second to begining of their third year is around the time you start to really see the tressellization take root. all i see here is a reporter who can't take what he dishes out.

 

[ant80]

i too am a member of the media mr. pryor. and i for one do not believe you are capable or good enough to win 3 heismans and back to back to back nc's while at tOSU. further, i know for a fact you don't have it in you to give me 10 million dollars after you sign a stupid lucrative contract with some nfl franchise. go ahead, prove me wrong. if you can.

honestly i didn't see anything in that story that made me think there was something to worry about here. ok, he took a shot at mark may. if you look back at his exact quote on the subject it was rather harmless really. so he got flagged for talking smack during an intersquad scrimmage. again, not something i intend to spend a lot of time worrying about. what did he do? pop a yo mamma crack to gibson? until he gets flagged in a game im not going to worry about it. his only real problem isn't so much what he says but rather his word usage. something i suspect we will all see a significant improvement on by the end of the season/begining of 2010. right around the end of their second to begining of their third year is around the time you start to really see the tressellization take root. all i see here is a reporter who can't take what he dishes out.

 

[k2onprimetime]

dude can throw!! i just hope he dosent turn into troy smith tho and not run that much

 

[NFBuck]

Didn't know Mobley was a Van Buren Boy.

 

[bukIpower]

dude can throw!! i just hope he dosent turn into troy smith tho and not run that much

Yup wouldn't want him winning any heismans now!

 

[Seenile]

dude can throw!! i just hope he dosent turn into troy smith tho and not run that much

Yup wouldn't want him winning any heismans now!

I think what k2onprimetime is saying is that Troy Smith might have gone too far in proving he was a throwing quarterback by his senior year that he abandoned his running abilities too much.

Unfortunately for Ohio State that year, it didn't cost us until the BCS Title game, where clearly Florida took note of it and adjusted their gameplan accordingly. The first quarter, they kept their corners close to the line and their DEs wide, making QB runs seem impossible. Then, for the rest of the game, they gave Troy huge lanes to run on the outside. It was like they knew he wouldn't take the opportunities they gave him because he had worked so hard to become a throwing QB. It may have won him the heisman but ironically, I think a guy like Krenzel would have taken advantage of those lanes more and forced Florida to change up their schemes. Of course, there were several other problems with that game (losing Ginn, abandoning inside run game, dropping LBs too far on 3rd down leaving RB slants open, personal fouls, etc) but clearly, Troy becoming too predictable didn't help.

With that said, I don't think that is going to happen with Pryor. He reminds me more of a Vince Young-type QB, someone who even though his rushing numbers went down as well by his junior year, still knew to take advantage of a defense's vulnerabilities to a running QB. That's how Texas won the NC vs USC, that's how UCLA beat them (with Cowen), and that's how Ohio State's going to beat USC this year, with Pryor picking them apart with both throwing AND running. Go Bucks!!!:osu:

 

[Buckeneye]

Unfortunately for Ohio State that year, it didn't cost us until the BCS Title game, where clearly Florida took note of it and adjusted their gameplan accordingly

Yeah, your right. Aside from the fact that A) our tackles gave Troy zero time in the pocket. B) most of our entire team was out of form including our Heisman winning QB who checked in well overweight and unprepared.
C) finally our rather horrid gameplan on both offense and defense.

Sure, Troy NOT running really had much to do with anything. :(

 

[3074326]

Yeah, I don't think Troy's legs were what cost us that game for some reason..

 

[1926Buckeyes]

Yeah, I don't think Troy's legs were what cost us that game for some reason..

No, but I think he does make a decent point. I remember yelling at the TV for him to run because he would've gotten 8-10 yards several times.

THat being said that is getting a bit off topic.

Terrelle is different though. The thing he REALLY needs to work on is not sitting in the pocket so long and dbeing indecisive. That when he takes big sacks and gets himslef in trouble. If he can stop doing that he gets 200 more yards this season and the O is much better. He did show better pockey presence though so thats good.

 

[bukIpower]

I think what k2onprimetime is saying is that Troy Smith might have gone too far in proving he was a throwing quarterback by his senior year that he abandoned his running abilities too much.

Unfortunately for Ohio State that year, it didn't cost us until the BCS Title game, where clearly Florida took note of it and adjusted their gameplan accordingly. The first quarter, they kept their corners close to the line and their DEs wide, making QB runs seem impossible. Then, for the rest of the game, they gave Troy huge lanes to run on the outside. It was like they knew he wouldn't take the opportunities they gave him because he had worked so hard to become a throwing QB. It may have won him the heisman but ironically, I think a guy like Krenzel would have taken advantage of those lanes more and forced Florida to change up their schemes. Of course, there were several other problems with that game (losing Ginn, abandoning inside run game, dropping LBs too far on 3rd down leaving RB slants open, personal fouls, etc) but clearly, Troy becoming too predictable didn't help.

With that said, I don't think that is going to happen with Pryor. He reminds me more of a Vince Young-type QB, someone who even though his rushing numbers went down as well by his junior year, still knew to take advantage of a defense's vulnerabilities to a running QB. That's how Texas won the NC vs USC, that's how UCLA beat them (with Cowen), and that's how Ohio State's going to beat USC this year, with Pryor picking them apart with both throwing AND running. Go Bucks!!!:osu:

Oh I get what he's saying but look who Troy had to throw the ball to and hand the ball off to.

Ginn, Gonzo, Robo, Hall, Small, Hartline, Pittman, and Beanie Wells. When a team has a supporting case like that the QB shouldn't be tucking the ball 10+ times a game.

Now I do agree that whenever things halfway break down I think Pryor should consider running the ball to atleast pick up 5-10 yards and keep the chains moving. However, as long as he's completing passes on the move or by improvising then I'd be ok with him not running. I agree, Pryor does need to find that nice balance between taking off and not taking off. In saying that though his running ability will ALWAYS be there for him to fall back on so i'd love to see him hang in the pocket and get some confidence throwing the football.

 

[jwinslow]

Troy lost some of his escapability, but he was never a particularly effective designed runner.

They'll still let Pryor run, but we'll see whether teams like PSU leave WRs wide open to try and slow down his feet. My guess is they don't sell out like that again and he has plenty of room to operate in happy valley.

 

[ysubuck]

Troy lost some of his escapability, but he was never a particularly effective designed runner.

They'll still let Pryor run, but we'll see whether teams like PSU leave WRs wide open to try and slow down his feet. My guess is they don't sell out like that again and he has plenty of room to operate in happy valley.

Was just going to post the same thing. They caught a young QB and they know it (and still barely got the game).