QB/WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion, OSU HOF)

[GeorgiaBuck2]

He's at least 6-3.

 

[HuskerFromOhio]

Well unfortunately in order to be a complete QB, one must learn to effective pass the ball as well. Vince Young had to do it, Pat White did it (although with less frequency) Pryor is gorwing into it and so will/must young Braxton.

Completeness is overrated. The same way you don't make Peyton Manning try and become "complete" is the same reason you don't mess with a kid like this.

 

[matcar]

Completeness is overrated. The same way you don't make Peyton Manning try and become "complete" is the same reason you don't mess with a kid like this.

That might work for Crouch or Steve Bellisari if they want to play safety in the NFL, but these kids want to be QBs at every level and they WANT to be complete players. In that respect it's the opposite of overrated...it's mandatory.

Meanwhile, defending a dual threat is more difficult than a pure runner.

 

[stowfan]

I believe it was pointed out earlier in this thread that Miller has little in the way of a supporting cast. In the words, pass first, is short lived, and he has to run.

 

[dragurd]

I'm pretty sure Braxton is bigger than Pat white is even now. Pat white is 180 dripping wet with a few weights in his shoes.

 

[HuskerFromOhio]

That might work for Crouch or Steve Bellisari if they want to play safety in the NFL, but these kids want to be QBs at every level and they WANT to be complete players. In that respect it's the opposite of overrated...it's mandatory.

Meanwhile, defending a dual threat is more difficult than a pure runner.

College kids need to suck it up and forget the NFL exist and do what is best for the team. If you have the ability to play in the NFL you will. Also I agree a dual threat is more difficult if the QB is Pryor or Troy Smith not this kid IMO.

 

[MaliBuckeye]

College kids need to suck it up and forget the NFL exist and do what is best for the team. If you have the ability to play in the NFL you will. Also I agree a dual threat is more difficult if the QB is Pryor or Troy Smith not this kid IMO.

First- I love the Huskers... second favorite team.

That being said, it makes perfect sense to me that a Nebraska fan would say this. Not only is the "team first" mentality an anchor of their program (as it is at Ohio State), but it is also rooted in a program that hasn't historically put QB's into the pros (at quarterback).

Hear me correctly- Ohio State doesn't have a huge legacy in this either, but the fact that Nebraska has (until recently) relied on a QB's legs rather than their arms does limit options for a career as a professional.

To say that a college young adult needs to "forget the NFL exists and do what is best for the team" is in some ways equivalent to telling a computer sciences major to forget that Apple/Microsoft exists and do what is best for the research that will further the credentials of the University.

Talking points: Team is important, but the significance of life and employment after college cannot be disregarded.

 

[3074326]

Completeness is overrated. The same way you don't make Peyton Manning try and become "complete" is the same reason you don't mess with a kid like this.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to accomplish here. Pryor was OSU's leading rusher in terms of yards and carries last year. Braxton will get plenty of opportunities to run the ball.

You're saying that we shouldn't use another good asset he has just because his best asset is awesome. He can throw the ball. For that reason, he should throw the ball. Your logic is non-existent here.

 

[jwinslow]

College kids need to suck it up and forget the NFL exist and do what is best for the team. If you have the ability to play in the NFL you will. Also I agree a dual threat is more difficult if the QB is Pryor or Troy Smith not this kid IMO.

Please stop making assumptions about a subject you clearly don't know much about. Troy threw a good ball in HS but was raw, Pryor threw a terrible ball in HS and is still mediocre to solid in that department. As a HS senior, Braxton is ahead of both and miles ahead of Pryor as a passer & dual threat. He isn't ahead of Pryor as a runner (at least not clearly).

 

[HuskerFromOhio]

First- I love the Huskers... second favorite team.

That being said, it makes perfect sense to me that a Nebraska fan would say this. Not only is the "team first" mentality an anchor of their program (as it is at Ohio State), but it is also rooted in a program that hasn't historically put QB's into the pros (at quarterback).

Hear me correctly- Ohio State doesn't have a huge legacy in this either, but the fact that Nebraska has (until recently) relied on a QB's legs rather than their arms does limit options for a career as a professional.

To say that a college young adult needs to "forget the NFL exists and do what is best for the team" is in some ways equivalent to telling a computer sciences major to forget that Apple/Microsoft exists and do what is best for the research that will further the credentials of the University.

Talking points: Team is important, but the significance of life and employment after college cannot be disregarded.

If you do what is best for your team the NFL will see that and if you have the ability you will get drafted. Either way this kid looks like a special once every few years kind of runner you shouldn't mess with that.

 

[NFBuck]

College kids need to suck it up and forget the NFL exist and do what is best for the team. If you have the ability to play in the NFL you will. Also I agree a dual threat is more difficult if the QB is Pryor or Troy Smith not this kid IMO.

Okay, Knute.

 

[billmac91]

Please stop making assumptions about a subject you clearly don't know much about. Troy threw a good ball in HS but was raw, Pryor threw a terrible ball in HS and is still mediocre to solid in that department. As a HS senior, Braxton is ahead of both and miles ahead of Pryor as a passer & dual threat. He isn't ahead of Pryor as a runner (at least not clearly).

I actually think Braxton is a better runner than Terrelle right now. Braxton cuts a lot better (Terrelle looks tenative making cuts) and Braxton seems less worried about contact, and he turns his body to avoid direct hits. Terrelle doesn't like contact, although he uses a nice stiff-arm to keep players at a distance.

But Terrelle is a freak when you look at his size and weight and the way he can move. Braxton has the ability to be Mike Vick with the pocket capabilities to be an amazing all around QB.

Which, IMO, is why this Husker fan is so far off the mark. Just b/c Braxton can run like Vick, doesn't mean you make him one dimensional. Braxton has such a good arm, you could say let's make him Drew Brees and keep him in the pocket. They can teach Braxton how to be a pocket QB, and still give him the freedom to run.

 

[Outstanding]

I actually think Braxton is a better runner than Terrelle right now. Braxton cuts a lot better (Terrelle looks tenative making cuts) and Braxton seems less worried about contact, and he turns his body to avoid direct hits. Terrelle doesn't like contact, although he uses a nice stiff-arm to keep players at a distance.

But Terrelle is a freak when you look at his size and weight and the way he can move. Braxton has the ability to be Mike Vick with the pocket capabilities to be an amazing all around QB.

Which, IMO, is why this Husker fan is so far off the mark. Just b/c Braxton can run like Vick, doesn't mean you make him one dimensional. Braxton has such a good arm, you could say let's make him Drew Brees and keep him in the pocket. They can teach Braxton how to be a pocket QB, and still give him the freedom to run.

Last night Pryor was delivering hits to linebackers and finishing some runs with real authority.

Either way we are blessed to have them both.

 

[jwinslow]

I was comparing them out of HS, where the tentative cuts were extremely rare (because he was running circles around his level of comp). I would agree with your criticisms of TP, but Braxton doesn't have TP's jets to get to the edges as quickly (though he's very fast in his own right).

 

[billmac91]

I was comparing them out of HS, where the tentative cuts were extremely rare (because he was running circles around his level of comp). I would agree with your criticisms of TP, but Braxton doesn't have TP's jets to get to the edges as quickly (though he's very fast in his own right).

I definately agree in terms of competition. Hard to compare Braxton running against Moeller and TP running against an NCAA squad.

And I'm not trying to criticize TP's running...I think he's doing what he's taught and being smart, and Braxton could very well become the same type of runner. But I do feel like Braxton will be a threat to take the ball to the house every time he takes a snap in the same way Mike Vick and Vince Young did. Currently, Pryor has the ability to pick up a first or break a big run, but he's always looking for a place to get out, whereas Young/Vick were looking to break it.

I'll be ineterested to see what type of speed Braxton carries at the college level. He's certainly a lot faster than Troy ever was/is, and I think he can be as elusive/fast as Vick. Take the level of competition out of the equation, and you're still hard pressed to see someone who can move like Braxton does laterally. Just sick moves. If Braxton couldn't throw a football, he'd be a four star RB or WR just like you could have said with Vick, IMO.